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May 25, 2018 18:59
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remember when people got real mad that intel used the word glue in a powerpoint deck
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May 25, 2018 19:00
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Truga posted:i'm dying holy poo poo I want that poster real bad. Long may the AMD IDGAF trolling continue.
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May 25, 2018 19:06
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SwissArmyDruid posted:It's Semiaccurate, and therefore sits firmly in the same category of "salt now, so you're not salty later" as WCCFT, but: according to this, that thing that I was worried about, where people just upgrade to the next thing that Intel comes out with out of inertia may not be happening. Oh my God 
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May 25, 2018 19:15
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They need to give the RTG marketing over to whoever is running EPYC marketing. It would at least be amusing and not cringetastic.
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May 25, 2018 19:18
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Jeez the memes have already started.
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May 25, 2018 19:35
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SwissArmyDruid posted:They need to give the RTG marketing over to whoever is running EPYC marketing. they literally named the cpu "EPYC"
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May 25, 2018 19:38
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still better than xenon
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May 25, 2018 20:36
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Cygni posted:they literally named the cpu "EPYC" The thing is it just ends up sounding upstart and scrappy, a kind of cheerful aggression if not extreme earnestness. Despite being in your face their market position doesn't make it seem belligerent and so it works. Also lmao "Monster Truck of Computing!".
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May 25, 2018 20:55
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Plus enough time has passed that no one remembers the cringe of epic
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May 25, 2018 21:01
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redeyes posted:Agreed on the 32GB.. and sorry to hear it raped you so hard. I wouldn't fly with less than that myself.
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May 25, 2018 21:27
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Ok. Sorry, it was consensual.
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May 25, 2018 21:27
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SwissArmyDruid posted:It's Semiaccurate, and therefore sits firmly in the same category of "salt now, so you're not salty later" as WCCFT, but: according to this, that thing that I was worried about, where people just upgrade to the next thing that Intel comes out with out of inertia may not be happening. AMD is leaving money on the table is they don't sell prints of this. I just did a server refresh last year (Intel) but I'd still hang one in the server room and leave it for the next guy.
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May 25, 2018 21:29
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IMO amd shoulda let epyc 1socket just be thread ripper instead of a gimped dual die
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May 25, 2018 21:53
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Having used my Raven Ridge machine fairly extensively now, I'm sort of surprised that processors can be the kind of thing that creates a fanboy cult. As I remember the days when AMD had to accept any vendor that would be willing to work with them and their motherboards had to be in plain white boxes, I know what a long hard trip it's been to get to this point where an AMD processor and an Intel processor in a PC can be indistinguishable. And if it weren't for RAM prices I'd be eagerly marking down the days until B450 boards. But, uhhh... This thing is just fine? And that's great, but not worth getting excited about? The whole AMD v Intel thing just seems not to be something I can get worked up over. Most AMD buyers benefit from Intel being chipzilla because the whole price:perf ratio that keeps them with AMD is that AMD can't afford to have Intel's profit margins. The consumer's favorite company is the one that makes enough money to keep the lights on and production running but doesn't take any money above that for themselves.
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May 25, 2018 22:11
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Well, there is also VIA (who are pumping out moderately competitive products in the ZX-5000, 6000 and 7000). But for me it's more a spectator sport, and it's fun to watch the underdog fight back.
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May 25, 2018 22:16
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pixaal posted:AMD is leaving money on the table is they don't sell prints of this.
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May 25, 2018 22:17
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Craptacular! posted:Having used my Raven Ridge machine fairly extensively now, I'm sort of surprised that processors can be the kind of thing that creates a fanboy cult. I think I speak for most of the people here when I say that we are not necessarily fanboys of AMD because of their products... we are fans of AMD in that without any competition, Intel stagnates and falls back on 5% improved IPC YOY.... just look at the last decade of chips and people still using 2600Ks. AMD genuinely is the only other outfit out there that can reasonably exert pressure on Intel in the x86 space. And when competition happens, all consumers win, whether you buy Intel or AMD. But not having to pay Intel's prices for comparable performance is a big plus.
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May 25, 2018 22:34
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In theory a consumer wins when their $350 CPU is viable for five years instead of two. 5% IPC YOY isn't anti-consumer, it's anti technological advancement. Consumers can actually win when technology matures and isn't developing at the kind of accelerated pace that smartphones did between the first iPhone and iPhone 6, in that scenario technology is actually obsolete before consumers feel they achieve value.
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May 25, 2018 22:46
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Craptacular! posted:In theory a consumer wins when their $350 CPU is viable for five years instead of two. Nobody wins without competent competition.
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May 25, 2018 22:50
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Lisa Su: We must sell Ryzen so we have the budget to troll Intel. How is that not admirable. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 00:40 on May 26, 2018 |
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May 25, 2018 22:53
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Measly Twerp posted:Nobody wins without competent competition. That much is certainly true. I like that AMD no longer requires sacrifice in stability or a huge maintenance upkeep.
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May 25, 2018 23:09
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Or having to shell out for a new motherboard with every drat chip.Craptacular! posted:In theory a consumer wins when their $350 CPU is viable for five years instead of two. I'd still argue that consumers are still the net beneficiaries of rapid technological advancement when what we consider to be the kind of inexpensive phone that you get on a prepaid plan can be a smartphone that's more powerful than any of those early-generation iPhones, and that anti-advancement *is* anti-consumer. Hell, if we wanted to blow this up to really philosophical wonky territory, it's certainly not in the best interests of humanity.
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May 26, 2018 00:19
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SwissArmyDruid posted:
Not that impressive considering early generation iPhones were woefully under-featured.
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May 26, 2018 00:24
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Woefully underfeatured, underpowered, _AND overpriced_.
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May 26, 2018 00:38
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Woefully underfeatured, underpowered, _AND overpriced_. Not being confrontational and I don’t want to sidetrack the thread, but relative to? Pretty much everything in the 2007-2008 period was relative steaming piles of poo poo, and all of the first and second generation “smartphones” had strengths and weaknesses. A number of (lovely) Android smartphones were even coming in at a higher price than the second and third generations of iPhone.
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May 26, 2018 01:04
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I'd still argue that consumers are still the net beneficiaries of rapid technological advancement when what we consider to be the kind of inexpensive phone that you get on a prepaid plan can be a smartphone that's more powerful than any of those early-generation iPhones, and that anti-advancement *is* anti-consumer. Hell, if we wanted to blow this up to really philosophical wonky territory, it's certainly not in the best interests of humanity. Humanity became largely interested in efficiency. I realize Intel's many problems wouldn't bring much performance anyway, but humanity moved to battery operated devices, not widespread adoption of 1000W PSUs. They did this on their own, and not because Intel failed to deliver power so quickly that software grew to accommodate it and thus force older users into buying more power.
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May 26, 2018 01:06
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When I built my 2600k computer, I "knew" what the specs would be for my replacement. I wanted roughly "double" the computer I'd built. I didn't expect to be so "spot on" with my prediction, or that it would take three or four times as long before I'd do it. 2011 computer: 2600k 4x4gb ram Nebulous future computer specs: 8 core processor 32gb ram Actual computer next year: 8 core (or better?) Ryzen 2 or 8 core (or better?) Intel offering 32-64gb ram I guess it's a win but it's also disappointing. There are tradeoffs to everything. e: Oh man, these RAM prices 
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May 26, 2018 01:11
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Still happy with my 1950X. I want to bump it to 64GB RAM, but ouch. Oh and AMD needs to get off its rear end and fix the PCIe stuff.
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May 26, 2018 07:28
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Craptacular! posted:I'm sort of surprised that processors can be the kind of thing that creates a fanboy cult. For your own sanity, don't go to r/amd or r/realamd. I went there looking for news about AMD products, which did not seem unreasonable. What I got was an infinite tide of complaining about Intel breaking the law by being mean to AMD. And Nvidia being the antichrist because they're mean to AMD. And youtubers being lying sacks of poo poo because they were mean to AMD (unless this week they were awesome because they were nice to AMD). And pictures of "Team Red" PC builds with 4000 upvotes. (Parenthetically, r/hardware is far less zealot-y, but frequently seems to believe that CPU and GPU development revolves around (and is driven forward by the needs of) ~~gamers~~, which is just hilarious.) As for myself, I'll happily go back to Intel as soon as they drop a CPU that equals or betters the performance, thread count, and power envelope of the Ryzen I'm using, but costs less. mdxi fucked around with this message at 08:51 on May 26, 2018 |
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May 26, 2018 08:49
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Look at you reasonlords trying to one-up each other in the subforum for people plowing thousands into pc hardware that lights up like a christmas tree and/or sysadmins drinking themselves to death
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May 26, 2018 09:14
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RGB is a cancer that I solve, one snip with my diagonal cutters at a time, and I keep a half-full bottle of Jailers Tennessee Whiskey in my bottom drawer. The three are not mutually exclusive! =P edit: in retrospect, I should probably swap the Jailers out for something else, now that the NDP went out of business. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 10:45 on May 26, 2018 |
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May 26, 2018 10:38
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AMD, when is my monster truck going to come with LEDs integrated into the CPU?
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May 26, 2018 11:27
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AMD RGB is best RGB Bro... Is beeeeesst RGB... Bro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF2SuR93l5c If you can't trigger seizures with your windowed PC, you're doing it wrong.
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May 26, 2018 13:59
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metaxus posted:AMD RGB is best RGB Bro... Is beeeeesst RGB... Bro. I feel like Eichenwald is suing this video already
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May 26, 2018 15:04
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lol
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May 26, 2018 15:08
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Mr Shiny Pants posted:Still happy with my 1950X. I want to bump it to 64GB RAM, but ouch. What this about fixing PCIe stuff?! Please explain.
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May 26, 2018 15:14
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SourKraut posted:Not being confrontational and I don’t want to sidetrack the thread, but relative to? Pretty much everything in the 2007-2008 period was relative steaming piles of poo poo, and all of the first and second generation “smartphones” had strengths and weaknesses. A number of (lovely) Android smartphones were even coming in at a higher price than the second and third generations of iPhone. I am sure that this will become a massive derail, but at launch the first generation iPhone: as 2g only did not have GPS could not send MMS could not record video did not have apps could not multitask could not copy and paste was only available on 1 carrier in the US did not have expandable storage (and the max storage you could get was 8GB) did not have a calendar could not update the OS over the air (no OTA updates)* required iTunes on a PC or Mac to even set up did not have a front facing camera could not get email from exchange or lotus email servers cost $500 for 4GB and $600 for 8GB and still required a 2 year contract on top of that By comparison, Windows mobile phones that were available at the time of the iPhones launch did not have any of the same shortcomings. Now, I am not saying Windows Mobile was good, because it was not. And the iPhone had a much better user interface, and in most cases bettery battery life than other phones available at the time. But it was missing practically ever feature that you would have said a smartphone needed to have be called a smartphone, even at the time. * I am not 100% sure that Windows Mobile did OTA updates, but I am leaving this on the list.
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May 26, 2018 16:31
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I didn’t own a 1st(or even a second)-gen iphone, but my brother-in-law had both and the fact that it had a real browser and a fantastic touchscreen blew my goddamn mind at the time. I was like ‘Ohhhh, THAT’S why everybody’s waiting in line for these’.
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May 26, 2018 18:41
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The fact that it had a touch screen UI that was designed to be used by a finger instead of a stylus, a click wheel, or a 5 way button was a pretty big feature. Also that it had a pretty good capacitive touch screen sensor and could do multi touch was also very impressive. The browser was good for the time, especially when compared to the standard WAP browser a lot of phones had. But other smartphones had real browsers like Opera. But then again, one of the iPhones selling points was that their good browser was built in and was the default (it just works). Windows Mobile you had to go download some 3rd party app to add the usability that you needed.
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May 26, 2018 19:27
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