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Wicaeed posted:Don't see how running the memory at it's advertised speeds (CMW32GX4M2C3200C16) counts as "overclocking" but I'll try anything at this point =\ All DDR4 runs at 2133 or whatever speed. When you buy RAM that is rated for 3200 or 3600, the RAM chips have been selected because they are capable of running at that speed.
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Wicaeed posted:Don't see how running the memory at it's advertised speeds (CMW32GX4M2C3200C16) counts as "overclocking" but I'll try anything at this point =\ https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Memory/Vengeance-PRO-RGB-Black/p/CMW32GX4M2C3200C16#tab-tech-specs quote:Tested Latency 16-18-18-36 This is a JEDEC 2133MHz 1.2V 15-15-15-36 module that they “tested” at 3200MHz 1.35V 16-18-18-36. Presumably it passed that test. What CPU, chipset and mother board memory layout was that tested with? Does it match yours? I agree that if it’s a problem at advertised specs you should return it. However at JEDEC specs it should be bulletproof so you can rule out everything but memory settings if it works at those JEDEC settings.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I do not want to give the impression that this is a widespread / common issue, but did Zen 2 have anything even close to having this kind of USB disconnection issue that we keep hearing about on the Zen 3? I didn't have any USB connectivity issues on Zen 2. I upgraded to the 5900X and I've been losing my keyboard's connection 2 - 3 times per day. I lose the mouse occasionally as well. In Maya (the 3d software) if I set the viewport mode as DirectX 11 instead of OpenGL, I lose my keyboard within a few seconds of creating a cube or panning around the viewport. However I don't have any issues with OpenGL.
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Wicaeed posted:Don't see how running the memory at it's advertised speeds (CMW32GX4M2C3200C16) counts as "overclocking" Several people have already covered this, but I want to use this statement as a generalized jumping-off point to talk about troubleshooting, generally, and troubleshooting Ryzen issues, specifically. When you have a really freaky problem -- especially intermittent ones, like what you're dealing with (for fun, they're sometimes called Heisenbugs) it can sometimes be useful to shift your strategy. Instead of the usual approach of "change/remove one thing and see if it eliminates the problem", it can be much faster to remove every piece of the system you possibly can, and set everything to defaults. Then you add components back and change settings one at a time, until the problem does occur. And that's the spirit behind people telling you to drop your RAM speeds to the lowest setting your mobo supports. There are a lot of observed instances (both on the internet at large, and here in this thread) of too-fast RAM settings causing ghostly behavior in Ryzen systems, all the way back to the 1000 series chips. I won't get into the details, because there seem to be a lot of facets to it, and what ends up being "too fast" is dependent on a lot of things. But long story short: slowing down RAM has resolved many issues, in mostly-stable systems, for a lot of people. So slowing memory down as much as possible in one go is suggesting that you take a shortcut to figuring out if memory is contributing to your problem or not.
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Tried a few more things (BIOS update, resetting BIOS all the way back to default), no change. I moved my 2080ti down to the second PCI-E slot on the Mobo and it's been rock stable ever since. Going to give it a few days to see if this cures things, then move it back. Not sure if that's an indication of a bad mobo or something, but at least it's been more stable now.
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Wicaeed posted:Tried a few more things (BIOS update, resetting BIOS all the way back to default), no change. Wondering if maybe the GPU wasn't seated 100% (at an angle) and by moving it it's well seated now. That'd definitely have some bad behaviours if it was tilted etc.
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I don't know how you could have have it not be seated properly but not end up destroying it when you put the heatsink on.
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Cojawfee posted:I don't know how you could have have it not be seated properly but not end up destroying it when you put the heatsink on. GPU not CPU. I have seen cards that weren’t secured work themselves out/tilt up if they are end heavy. This can cause sporadic issues.
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Oh whoops, stupid letters look too similar.
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Cojawfee posted:I don't know how you could have have it not be seated properly but not end up destroying it when you put the heatsink on. Tbf I managed this a few months back, the cpu wasn't seated correctly but the cooler went on fine, I think the wraith prism bracket isn't the best.
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Having followed this thread for a few years(?) and looking to go AMD for my next upgrade; if I don't care about 5% or 2-5 fps increases in performance - should I really care about XMP or just go for bog standard 2666 MT/s RAM to avoid possible problems? Coming from an i5-4440 anything would be an improvement anyway, right? Right now comparable 6-8 core Intel 9 and 10 series offerings are 30% cheaper, somehow, though I want to be stupid and go team Red since I care more about multi-core performance and power draw than anything else...
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You might START with the RAM at lower settings, then is the system proves stable for a few weeks turn on xmp. If you lose stability you can then lower it back or start tweaking.
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F4rt5 posted:Having followed this thread for a few years(?) and looking to go AMD for my next upgrade; if I don't care about 5% or 2-5 fps increases in performance - should I really care about XMP or just go for bog standard 2666 MT/s RAM to avoid possible problems? I've had zero problems running XMP on my X570. If you're concerned setting manual timings should get you at or above those speeds anyway. I should add I was careful to get a RAM kit approved for my motherboard right from the get-go, as much of a pain in the rear end as that process is.
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Cygni posted:https://twitter.com/ExecuFix/status/1365981401808580614 500GB/s memory bandwidth  Sadly you will need at least 24 DIMMs for a two socket server.
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F4rt5 posted:Right now comparable 6-8 core Intel 9 and 10 series offerings are 30% cheaper, somehow, though I want to be stupid and go team Red since I care more about multi-core performance and power draw than anything else... The nominal price gap narrows when you consider cooling solutions and motherboards - AM4 motherboards tend to be less expensive, and lower-end AMD processors come with coolers. Most people opt to replace the stock cooler, but you don't NEED to other than for noise and quality of life reasons.
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:500GB/s memory bandwidth I want to see what that kind of bandwidth does to integrated graphics.
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Seamonster posted:I want to see what that kind of bandwidth does to integrated graphics. At the current rate of growth in iGPU bandwidth, you will find out in approximately 25 years.
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double post because TR Pro is now heading to retail, meaning here comes the retail WRX80 motherboards https://www.newegg.com/asus-pro-ws-wrx80e-sage-se-wifi/p/N82E16813119391  
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Gat   Are there custom hsfs for beefy normally double height gpus that would allow you stack up 7 on that 
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priznat posted:Gat if you want to do all seven you have to go to waterblocks with a 7-way manifold looks like there's two PCIe aux connectors on the bottom edge to help feed the slots as well
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imagine how satisfying it would be to plug a solid brick of 7 GPUs in all at once
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Turn them sumbitches sideways and just let gravity plonk them seated
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hmmm 1 x 3995WX - 280w, lets round up to 300w 7 x 3090 - 350w each, lets round up to 400w 8 x DIMM - 4w each, lets round up to 5w 1x Wacky ASUS Board with X550 10gig network n poo poo - uh, 150w? Really dunno. gently caress it lets say 200w and include everything else Giving us: 3,340 watts Uh, Seasonic makin 3,500 watt gamer power supplies yet? I have seen 3k units in servers though. They are not what I would call "sane" in the noise department.
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You can fit at least 2 PSUs in an O11 Dynamic XL, and Seasonic has 1,600w units now. Close, but still not enough, might have to sacrifice a 3090 or run an under clock and pray.
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Cygni posted:hmmm Those won’t work on normal US household outlets. A pair of 1600W supplies on separate breakers would be the only way to do it unless someone makes a NEMA 5-30 PSU.
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hobbesmaster posted:Those won’t work on normal US household outlets. A pair of 1600W supplies on separate breakers would be the only way to do it unless someone makes a NEMA 5-30 PSU. The rest of the world was so right in doubling voltage.
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Combination fast charger for your car/gaming PC plugin
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lurksion posted:Is ASRock unusually slow with their BIOS updates? I'm somewhat annoyed that they haven't had a BIOS update for their B550 mobos since early Dec (and that was to 1.1.0.0; not even the major 1.1.8.0 update that other mobo manufacturers were putting out). Still waiting. lurksion fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Mar 4, 2021 |
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hobbesmaster posted:Those won’t work on normal US household outlets. A pair of 1600W supplies on separate breakers would be the only way to do it unless someone makes a NEMA 5-30 PSU. What, you don't have a dedicated 50A/220V outlet that you hardwire your PC into? Amateur.
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SourKraut posted:What, you don't have a dedicated 50A/220V outlet that you hardwire your PC into? Amateur. LOL if your posting station doesn't have its own dedicated diesel generator, just LOL.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:LOL if your posting station doesn't have its own dedicated diesel generator, just LOL. I'm Cummins so hard at the thought of this.
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SourKraut posted:I'm Cummins so hard at the thought of this.  Think DifferentTM
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SourKraut posted:What, you don't have a dedicated 50A/220V outlet that you hardwire your PC into? Amateur. I've got a 415v/32A three phase outlet in my basement as this house used to have an elevator and I'm imagining a three phase PSU to run a 7way setup
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BurritoJustice posted:I've got a 415v/32A three phase outlet in my basement as this house used to have an elevator and I'm imagining a three phase PSU to run a 7way setup I understand every word in this sentence and it’s more baffling than if I didn’t.
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Wheelchair access? I used to know someone with an elevator in their house for that reason.
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BurritoJustice posted:I've got a 415v/32A three phase outlet in my basement as this house used to have an elevator and I'm imagining a three phase PSU to run a 7way setup I don't want to derail thread, but could you tell us more about this? Like, how many stories is your house? What is in the space where the elevator used to be? Did you find this by accident? I don't know why, but I fuckin' LOVE stories of homeowners finding poo poo they didn't know their house had behind like, a layer of drywall.
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GRECOROMANGRABASS posted:I don't want to derail thread, but could you tell us more about this? Like, how many stories is your house? What is in the space where the elevator used to be? Did you find this by accident? I don't know why, but I fuckin' LOVE stories of homeowners finding poo poo they didn't know their house had behind like, a layer of drywall. Only two storeys. The previous owner lived here for a few decades before he passed, we purchased it from his daughter. At some point it was removed when that part of the house was renovated. There is now an empty rectangle of space in the middle of the stairwell, the stairs go around the elevator column that no longer exists. I don't know why it was removed, could've been regulatory compliance for sale or due to maintenance costs The elevator allowed you to go through the garage which is level and get to the first floor. We had no idea before purchasing it and only noticed the power line under the house after a year or so. The previous owner had some large machine tools (now removed), so it was also run to a janky workshop area literally dug into the ground under half the house (it's on a slope) and we found it in there. I don't pay to have it connected to it's just a random novelty. I'd imagine it was expensive to install. BurritoJustice fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Mar 4, 2021 |
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Fantastic Foreskin posted:Wheelchair access? I used to know someone with an elevator in their house for that reason. Wheelchair lifts don't need 3phase power. BurritoJustice posted:Only two storeys. The previous owner lived here for a few decades before he passed, we purchased it from his daughter. At some point it was removed when that part of the house was renovated. There is now an empty rectangle of space in the middle of the stairwell, the stairs go around the elevator column that no longer exists. I don't know why it was removed, could've been regulatory compliance for sale or due to maintenance costs This only raises more questions! You probably don't have answers to them though 
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