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Seriously, a Threadripper mobo in the Aorus gaming line?
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Ryzen/Vega APU something something
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May 31, 2017 03:38
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Paul MaudDib posted:GloFo claims their 7LP will go to 5 GHz. Ryzen at 5 GHz will be super great actually. It would. Plus other architectural improvements as well. But I quote: "Netburst will scale to 10 Ghz!" - Intel.
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Jun 16, 2017 21:33
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The baked in erratta fixes, likely better clocks, likely better memory compatibility makes zen+ sound much more attractive. I just want 3200 memory to work out of the box!
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Jun 20, 2017 14:07
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So is zen+ the die shrink? Or is that zen2?
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Jul 19, 2017 23:11
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So can we declare the pentium line dead or what?
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Jul 27, 2017 14:42
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NewFatMike posted:Raven Ridge allegedly spotted today, as well. Whoa, back up a sec here. Is this with just straight system RAM? All Iris Pro parts have eRAM built in-die, right?
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Jul 28, 2017 04:44
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:AMD is notably better at binning TDP in this product sector and since Kabini they often overestimate when it comes to low wattage parts (the 25w on AM1 is actually never reached unless you overclock for example) Well don't forget to add a few watts for the iGPU. Ryzen doesn't have any GPU silicon at all. Still, even 30-35w for a full package ain't bad and most ultrabooks should be able to handle it.
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Jul 28, 2017 14:41
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FaustianQ posted:Same, was going to get a 1600 but I'll wait for the 1650 or 2600 if it means 4.2 to 4.5Ghz clocks. Don't forget better (more mature) chipsets and BIOSes too. Maybe they get the memory dependence not so drastic too.
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Aug 4, 2017 22:08
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I'm waiting for that 4.4-4.5 GHz regular ryzen stepping myself.
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Aug 9, 2017 05:00
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FaustianQ posted:So apparently TR4 is getting support for the next two generations, and it's theoretical possible to scale to four working chips. I can't wait until 2020 rolls around. Cinebench multithread scores over 9000?!?
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Aug 10, 2017 14:45
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I'd like to say its as much the density afforded by 14nm and smaller going forward that allows for all this fancy MCM stuff, especially for GPUs because at 28nm, even if scaling efficient, fuuuuckk that package size.
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Aug 23, 2017 05:14
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So uh... 12nm node is coming.
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Sep 20, 2017 21:29
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I am salivating for Ryzen with a few percent IPC improvement, baked in errata fixes and OC to 4.4-4.5 Ghz. Oh and less finicky memory support. This is the right call to get product out to market faster. The dumpster fire known as Vega on the other hand may get the flames put out with this new node? (It will still be a disgusting smelly mess, just no longer actively burning?)
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Sep 20, 2017 21:54
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Paul Otellini died.
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Oct 3, 2017 17:15
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Paul MaudDib posted:Yeah if the claims of 8C Ice Lake clocking to 5 GHz are correct then AMD better have something serious up their sleeves with Ryzen2. They just need to find a bit more IPC and clock clock clock the hell out of that uarch. As great as 8C Ryzen is at 4.0 Ghz, I'm not entirely convinced its as future proof as that same chip @ 4.5 Ghz (which nobody outside of LN2 folks have done) so that's the one I'm waiting on.
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Oct 5, 2017 21:22
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Single channel is ok if its a) DDR4 and b) for lovely $400 atom based stuff. That said, even dual channel DDR4 2400 is "only" around 32-35 GB/s which is well below the MX150's bandwidth which is the chip I'd immediately compare any ultrabook mobile vega variant to.
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Oct 16, 2017 19:24
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Cygni posted:It's probably HP trying to skim money off the cost of an AMD laptop, cause they don't think AMD laptops will sell at a higher price. This has been a problem with AMD laptops since the friggen K6-2 days. It's a shame because single channel DDR4 is going to starve the hell out of a 4 core Zen + 704CU graphics unit. For comparison, the Radeon RX 550 has 512CU but 112gb/s of bandwidth just to itself.... Except that the RX 550 is a 45-50 watt part and the whole Raven Ridge package is supposed to be less than that.
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Oct 16, 2017 21:03
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I'm personally expecting regular Intel HD graphics to get smacked pretty hard if AMD can pump out enough Raven Ridge parts in volume. The Iris Pro equipped stuff with eRAM will get overtaken by a smaller margin but those parts' real downside is the massive cost for what they are anyway so gently caress 'em.
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Oct 16, 2017 21:35
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bobfather posted:i5-8400 is still sparsely available, and no cheap motherboards are available. But you have to buy good RAM ($$$becauseDRAMpricingisfuuuuucked$$$$) to get the better out of any Ryzen so don't think you can just plonk down a couple of bills and call it done. Still better than Intel pricing on mobo+cpu.
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Oct 18, 2017 19:03
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Those items are what will future-proof Ryzen. It is great now but unless those 16 threads run 10% faster, we aren't going to get even close to the 2500/2600k longevity that alot of people have grown accustomed to (for whatever reasons good, bad or ugly).
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Oct 18, 2017 19:36
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:I was expecting 25w, but 15w is trolling the gently caress out of Intel with sick donuts in the parking lot Yeah most ultrabooks should have no problem cooling a 25w part especially if thats really the only thing in there generating and significant heat (I guess some NVMe drives get a little toasty). But an extra 10w budgeted to the Vega cores for something that stacks up more convincingly against the MX150 would much more desirable. They're about 25% short on FS gpu score.
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Oct 26, 2017 20:13
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Wouldn't be that different than Nvidia and gameworks tesselation
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Nov 2, 2017 14:08
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NewFatMike posted:Dell please XPS 15 6C with Freesync 2 Vega and HBM, I will be forever horny. Not enough Vega shaders though. For your car analogy, there's no replacement for displacement in this case. I suspect they'll get to the RX 560 4GB level, maybe a bit more with all that sweet sweet bandwidth - which would still be the most powerful "integrated graphics" ever and impressive for the power envelope.
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Nov 6, 2017 22:46
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I think you just ran right into a car analogy
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Nov 12, 2017 07:01
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Microcenter has 1700X down to $230
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Nov 20, 2017 18:26
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Will there be new chipsets?
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Nov 22, 2017 14:28
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Graphics processing costs watts, yo. Always has, always will.
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Dec 2, 2017 05:24
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Eletriarnation posted:To me the thing that's least believable about it is that they'd come up with a 12-core 5.1GHz chip, which would be able to murder anything Intel is putting out for under four figures, and then they'd sell it for $450. Like... I'd stand in line to pay $700 for that and I'm a cheapass who's been sitting on a 2500K for 6 years looking at new things and going "eh... not good enough yet." The below will set everything straight. Kazinsal posted:I'd buy a guaranteed 4.5 GHz 8C/16T Ryzen1.5 part for sure. Anything above that would be icing on the cake.
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Dec 11, 2017 05:41
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If GF 7nm really is coming in early 2019 then 2018 is going to be a zugzwang year for purchasing Ryzen anything. I do want all the good things that (could) come from the 12nm refresh coming for sure in 2018 but don't really want all those advantages surpassed so soon if 7nm Zen2 is that outrageously ahead. At least AM4 socket stays relevant.
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Dec 20, 2017 20:34
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By now, yes. GCN at launch was pretty decent at launch though. 28nm is a hell of a drug.
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Dec 21, 2017 03:15
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When you're getting margins like GV100 does, BoM/production cost isn't that big an issue.
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Dec 21, 2017 14:52
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Generic Monk posted:they just left the desktop headspreader on and everything? since they're that unconcerned with thickness i'm betting the thing will cut off the circulation to your legs if you actually try to use it as a laptop never mind the heatspreader - lol the ZIF socket!
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Jan 4, 2018 23:15
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Cygni posted:Essentially, yeah. It's on a slightly improved process, and they will be launching new chipsets (rebadged? i cant think of any new features to add). But they have explicitly said its the same architecture, so maybe a few hundred more mhz? A few more hundred Mhz would be my target as well. 16 threads @ 3.8-4.0 ghz for cheap is GOOD but not really super compelling considering how long overclocked sandy bridge has managed to hold out. Those 16 threads @ 4.4 or 4.5 though and things start looking much better. Yeah it's only about 10% on paper but considering the IPC improvements for the last 5 years has been just creeeeeeping along, that 10% clock translates into at least a year of extra relevency. And speaking of futureproofing, isn't 7nm rolling around in 2019? These "improved Ryzen" parts would only have been out for no more than 15-18 months before being "obsoleted" if the promises of Zen2 are to be believed. Smaller dies = 32c/64t Threadrippers @ 5.0 ghz? HOLY SHEEEEEEEIITT TLDR: I'm just a big fat babby and don't want to get a new CPU for 6-7 years after seating it.
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Jan 5, 2018 23:10
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Perhaps not as outright awful as RAM but SSD prices have increased per GB as well. And innovation in terms of drive size has utterly stagnated too. Where the hell are our 4TB drives for ~$800?
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Jan 6, 2018 00:51
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Faux pas to quote myself from the last page but if 7nm really does open up the opportunity for 32c/64t threadrippers at badass clockspeeds then HOLY FUUUUUCKK
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Jan 6, 2018 22:57
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I don't think theres a HARD date but AMD has already stated they're sampling the process right now per the CES slide decks and the across the board discounts on current ryzen parts are a hint of clearing inventory.
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Jan 18, 2018 20:35
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If its 10% then so be it. Even better with all the stability/errata/memory latency improvements you just mentioned. Small as that margin may be, it represents quite a bit of extra life and especially so if Zen2 is delayed by any significant amount. And speaking of Zen2, I'd rather drop it into a more up to date motherboard anyway.
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Jan 19, 2018 04:47
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When 7nm comes around for sure. If nothing else than to put an absolute spike bat to Intel's But yeah 32c/64t threadripper parts at 5.0 GHz holy fuuuuuuucckk.
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I did not expect to see the 1v1 core comparisons end up like that though, nice.
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