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http://www.pcgamer.com/amd-radeon-pro-ssg-pairs-vega-with-2tb-of-memory/ 16GB HBM2, 2TB of on board SSD storage, $149.99. Just kidding about price. As someone just now learning how to do high resolution video editing and effects, I feel like everyone that finds out I started out on this generation of hardware is going to be kinda salty.
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Wirth1000 posted:I really paid no attention to AMD for a long time. Was the generation before Ryzen really that bad? I bought in near the end of that generation, I upgraded from a Phenom II to an AMD FX 8350 which has 4 x 2 core modules @ 4ghz, presenting 8 cores to the OS, though each module shares an FPU. Honestly, the amount of making GBS threads on this CPU from the community always felt very unwarranted and near twilight zoneish to me. I use very high end Intel workstations at the office (rare company that is upgrade happy), but my personal machine that I come home to has never really felt under powered aside from having much less / slower ram. I'm a professional software developer that multitasks like crazy - VMs, large software builds, Chrome occasionally running like 80 pornhub tabs, you name it. I could easily OC this chip, but I instead undervolt it from stock (1.45v?) to .875v for power savings / quieter fan speed Granted, I don't game a lot, but when I have picked up the latest hotness and found performance lacking, a GPU upgrade fixed the issue entirely.
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Sinestro posted:That Geil RAM looks so ugly and weird. Why did they give it such tall heat spreaders it almost looks like SODIMMs? Same reason cold remedy boxes don't all just say "Runny nose treatment: contains (w/e active ingredient 0.4%)." I mean, it would be cheaper to have a white box with black ink saying just those things, but that box won't stand out and grab your attention among the 50 other choices containing the same ingredient on that row.
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Has AMD signaled whether they plan on eventually providing current generation Ryzen-based products with support for faster than DDR4 3200 RAM via an AGESA update or motherboard chipset revision? Or is there a known limiting factor that definitely puts a ceiling on this generation at DDR4 3200, such as Infinity Fabric losing its poo poo if the CAS latency of the RAM is too high? I don't think DDR4 3200 is lacking or anything, it's just that after seeing the performance increases in benchmarks when going from DDR4 2800 to DDR4 3200, I can't help but wonder how Ryzen would do at even higher memory clocks. Going up from CAS 14 to CAS 16 you can find kits of DDR4 3600 16-16-16-36 at the same voltage. Go from CAS 14 to 18, and you find DDR4 4000 18-19-19-39. The highest clocked DDR4 I see on newegg atm is DDR4 4400 CAS 19 timings 19-19-19-39. I'm hoping the memory compatibility issues that we've seen patched in bios updates are just the result of AMD not having the time to roll out bios profiles for the variety of assorted DRAM chips on the market yet. If Ryzen can benefit from additional memory bandwidth at the expense of additional latency, well.. gently caress that would be sweet.
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Paul MaudDib posted:
Paul, this nothingburger is embargoed for a pretty good reason; if a script to exploit this security flaw were to make its way around the internet before a security fix is in place, every single loving person with sensitive data in a data center would be affected. And since this exploit has been known for months prior to the rushed patches, we have no idea how much damage has already been done by those that found it first. THAT is a realistic assessment of the situation.
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sincx posted:More info here: Gee, I wonder how many degrees of separation there are between CTS Labs and the Israel-based Intel team.
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I wonder how much they were funded over the last 6 months, and how happy the benefactors were with this "BRO FLASH YOUR BIOS WITH DIS AND SEE HOW SECURE YOU ARE" and "BRO, LEMME CATCH YOUR MACHINE OUTSIDE ALONE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS" style document, featuring 0 POC code & shutterstock images used as office backgrounds : 
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Mar 14, 2018 12:51
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Exploit #14: RyzeNside In our lab we were able to replace the AMD motherboard and CPU with an Intel combo that doesn't have microcode updates. At this point we actually owned the machine pretty hard without getting too fancy.
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Mar 14, 2018 13:22
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Eight new security vulnerabilities affecting Intel chips found. Details are currently under a 90 day embargo, ending May 7th. In case you were wondering, AMD processors do not appear to be affected by these exploits, (hi paul) but they have found some ARM chips that are vulnerable. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cyber-intel/next-generation-flaws-found-on-computer-processors-magazine-idUSKBN1I42BZ
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Craptacular! posted:So why did you post here cool, AMD finally took a minute to deal with that super serious big deal problem, where you could totally pwn an AMD system after convincing the owner to flash their BIOS with a third party crafted malicious image. Oh, also they are patching that other thing where if you have physical access to the system, you could in theory do some bad stuff. Thanks for the heads up.
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May 3, 2018 21:26
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I wonder what the Intel engineers that designed the 8086 back in 1976 would say if they could see how far past the point of diminishing returns we've carried their baby.
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The week before the refresh I saw a TR cpu for a little over $300 at microcenter. I'm assuming it was the lowest end model. I only saw the CPUs because that is where the ram used to be. Now the ram is locked inside a glass case in a different area. Thank you for reading. If you enjoyed this post please click the subscribe button below and let me know what you think in the comments.
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May 11, 2018 18:14
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I still think the two cores per module idea had merit and could have been greatly improved on if AMD had the resources to see it through to maturity. Let's get a kickstarter going to fund a Cyrix reunion and provide them with the Piledriver IP and a fab partnership with IBM or Texas Instruments.
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May 21, 2018 21:04
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What if Hector Ruiz became the next Intel CEO
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Jun 25, 2018 01:28
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Hey Paul AMD sounds really terrible you should short their stock and make bank
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maybe RTG will do better now that Raja is at Intel
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Paul MaudDib posted:
I mean, when I bought in at under $2.00 a share, a lot of dummies were saying AMD was a sure bet for bankruptcy. That was Bulldozer era; the stock has only multiplied 7x to ~$15.00 in 3 years, so good point on $AMD not really having much lower it could go, and double good point on it "not really" recovering. 700% ROI is garbage tier gains and proof that AMD is full of nothingburger engineers with no juice in their dried up bholes.
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Jul 2, 2018 14:46
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Craptacular! posted:Honestly since going from Intel graphics to AMD graphics on my HTPC there are moments on the desktop where the space around the arrow seems to briefly go corrupt in a flash and then correct itself. This is just sitting on the desktop with no windows open. Given it's purpose the only fullscreen app that machine ever runs is Kodi. Yikes gently caress AMD that's horrible. My condolences.
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Jul 3, 2018 13:13
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Petty? The last time AMD had a superior product, Intel literally tried to force AMD to bankruptcy through illegal backroom deals which kept AMD processors from gaining market share. AMD had to do rounds of mass layoffs and cut operating expenses to the bone as a direct result of Intel's attempt to sabotage them out of the market. AMD has a right to be cocky; they have again managed to develop a superior product, despite having only a fraction of the R&D budget to work with.
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Jul 9, 2018 22:42
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Was hoping to get a hint of when to expect Keller Lake.
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Jul 16, 2018 20:39
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Paul MaudDib posted:
When you said this on July 2nd, AMD closed at $15.02. Considering that share value has increased to $16.50 in the 20 days since then,
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Jul 22, 2018 20:25
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Intel loyalists are suddenly serious face stock market experts ITT.
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Oct 29, 2018 02:14
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The note at the bottom that says something about threadripper being dual socket seems odd too.
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I wonder how feasible it would be to move most AVX units to some kind of math co-processor socket. Ideally there would be some units on package for the average user, but if you have workloads that lean hard on AVX, you could trade a little bit of latency for not having the central processor thermal throttle.
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Dec 19, 2018 01:22
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Maybe the chiplet & IO unit positioning is related to the AM4 socket layout? It's impressive they make such dramatic changes without forcing a new motherboard on users. That's something I've always liked about AMD.
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I'm just glad Paul is back and I hope he sticks around for the next Ryzen release. You guys advocating Intel for a build that is intended to last a few years.. Intel is still doing quarterly microcode patches for security flaws, no? Considering these patches are necessary due to Intel sacrificing security for performance, wouldn't the outlook of how well an Intel processor will hold up over time be bleak?
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Anyone expecting GloFo to license a 7nm manufacturing process from Samsung next year? IIRC, GF was going to have to renegotiate with Samsung and AMD alike in 2020 anyway. Halting their process in 2018 seems like something that makes sense if they knew they were not going to be able to have a comparable 7nm node online in time for the negotiations, as it would be much better to approach Samsung as a partner than as a competitor in that scenario. GloFo doesn't seem to be in a bad spot - 12nm & 14nm demand will be profitable to service for years to come, and having the true state of their own 7nm process development being an unknown, Samsung should prefer to license their polished IP to GloFo and reap the considerable profit that comes from that, because who else are they going to license it to at a higher price?
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Thanks for the clarification! Unfortunately, it seems that they are having issues with the 12FDX page itself.   
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Saukkis posted:No, I think this is exactly what was talked about. Let's guess that there is a 95% chance the laptop the researcher is using every day will have an Intel CPU inside. Also their previous laptop still laying on the nearby shelf probably is Intel. Same as all the other laptops and desktops the research group has laying around to tinker with. When the researcher wants to do some quick test it's easiest to use the machines nearest to them. Finding the vulnerability in AMD or ARM processors would greatly enhance the profile of the security researcher and their team. Even if you insist the publishers cannot get access to AMD processors (...) and therefore failed to find the same exploits in AMD chips, you can bet your marbles that AMD and ARM processors have been heavily audited for similar flaws by peers of the publishers; it would be low hanging fruit to find a similar attack vector in other processors once the details of the fundamental security flaws and POC for Intel processors was published. Lastly, there is capitalism. Anyone with money in Intel - including Intel itself, has profit motive to throw money at security researchers with the purpose of finding security vulnerabilities in AMD processors to mitigate PR outrage. If a team of security researchers CAN publish something that might help turn "Intel security flaws" into "modern CPU security flaws" they can expect a big pay day. In fact, there was already an attempt at this last year, where "exploits" were published with catchy names for AMD platforms that included crap like "if a third party gets physical possession of the motherboard.." and "if the user can be tricked into downloading a malicious bios image (that has somehow been signed by the motherboard manufacturer) and flashes the bios with it.. bad stuff COULD happen. Just seeing that was the best they could come up with was reassuring tbh.
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There are still legions of IE6 out there in the corporate world.. probably all running on Intel processors from the era when Intel illegally cock blocked AMD from getting their processors into OEMs. :/
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Mr.Radar posted:Because it just has a ton of capacitors I'm guessing it's claiming to provide "enhanced power stability" or something. I guess in theory it could make a difference under heavy load, alleviating voltage dips when there was a sudden spike in power demand, but CPUs and graphics cards should already be designed to run within the ATX power supply specs. It kinda reminds me of a quack gadget I saw in a device teardown video on youtube of a thing marketed as a means to reduce your electricity bill. IIRC the idea was you plug the box into an ac socket and the capacitors inside do black magic with PFC (which I don't think consumers actually get billed for / is more an industrial plant level of electricity usage concern?)
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A little off topic, but does anyone remember the Intel product - I think it was the Pentium II - that was going to ship with a 'security feature' that involved something like a single globally unique ID string baked into each processor, which was to be exposed to apps and *websites* for the purpose of assisting in 'verifying the identity' of the user? I remember specifically that they suggested it would help your bank know it's really you when logging in to your bank account online. The way I remember it, Intel fought to keep it, suggesting it could be turned off at the bios or some such, but they actually got beat down hard enough by the backlash that they dropped it before product launch altogether. I knew it was a terrible idea at the time, I mean, we all did.. but in hindsight, fuuuuuck, that would have been such a terrible genie to let out of the bottle on so many levels. I'm sure some Intel business unit had a motivating supplier of wheel grease (DRM lobby being the least scary scenario that I can think of) to push for it, but I can't imagine the engineers and ... everyone else, not objecting to it before it got as close to being a reality as it did.
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If I hear "innovate" one more time before Dr. Su takes stage I'm going to have to close this down and read about this tomorrow
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May 27, 2019 03:11
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"Let me correct what that last guy just said before I give ya'll deets"
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May 27, 2019 03:18
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I LOVE RADEON, DR SU
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May 27, 2019 03:47
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this one sounds like chinese stephen hawking
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Paul MaudDib posted:yeah, so, 30% behind a 9700K = pretty much on par with a (stock) 9900K in Cinebench... which is the ideal scenario for AMD. That was 33% ahead of a 9700k
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:Intel is a cautious company I mean they really are, in a "say fella, you might want to, uhhh, disable hyperthreading" kinda way. They were very cautious in scheduling quarterly security microcode patches to ensure the cumulative performance loss is experienced in gentle steps. Out of an abundance of caution, they reserved HUGE swaths of CVE identifiers for documenting all the security gently caress ups they're going to have to address.
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