GutBomb posted:

I get better performance and thermals doing the XFR/PBO stuff in games than I did with manual overclocking with my 2700x. The performance in synthetic benchmarks is actually worse but in game benchmarks and just general game performance it was better.

Also 1.5v might look scary, AMD engineers have posted on reddit several times not to worry about it, that it’s never there for sustained periods and those voltage spikes are in there by design. It’s how XFR/PBO works.

fknlo posted:

Went from an offset of -0.075 to -0.09375(what it defaulted to when I entered 0.09) with my 2700x running PE4 today. I tried a -0.1 but it didn't want to boot. I'm under 1.4V average in games with a pretty hefty average temperature drop as well.

lllllllllllllllllll posted:

Was wondering the same thing a few weeks ago in the overclock thread. Sadly MSI does not seem to offer that option for an easy undervolt.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:

I ran mine on it for two days, until WC arrived. I became weirdly fond of the bling.

sincx posted:

The 3700X looks sweet.

Craptacular! posted:

So I went from a 3770K (@4.3) to a 1600 (@stock presently) and I gotta say I see no losses but I see no substantial benefits either. A few apps tell me they’re using 12 threads but overall the amount of time it takes to do a thing is negligible and at least I can be happy that I didn’t go backwards. I plan to give OC a try but I’m on a stock cooler so I don’t expect much gain.

Nonetheless pleased that I chose the beefiest VRMs you can get on a B450 and paid for the 3200 blingin’ RAM, because someday I want to stick the best chip I can put in an AM4 socket on this thing.

Harik posted:

Yay my new $650 threadripper arrived



THE ACTUAL gently caress.

E: At least the rest of the poo poo doesn't get here until friday, I have time to get them to resend me one overnight.

Harik posted:

That's new. I didn't even break the seal, I just sent it back. As for how it could happen, well:

I'm the half-assed strip of bubble wrap taking a journey of discovery through the carnival rollercoaster of domestic shipping.

Harik posted:

I love your av. Did you make the horsegame it came from? I vaguely remember that thread.

Boringly, round 2 arrived intact, but they did manage to kick the Define S2 box hard enough to rip it and leave a dent in the front panel. 2 for 2, can't wait to see the state the rest of my stuff arrives in tomorrow.

Beautiful Ninja posted:

Thanks for that, I'll start working on finding a good offset for my CPU. While looking at voltages, I noticed with PE level 3 using Auto, during heavy CPU stuff like Cinebench my voltages were only around 1.32 or so while the CPU stuck at 4.1ghz. But I did notice under more lightly threaded work, like some games, my voltages went up to 1.5v when 1-2 cores would sit at 4.3 while others are at lower clocks. My suspicion is that this is actually intended when PBO is clocking a couple cores high as Ryzen will need those volts to get the clocks that high, but I just wanted to double check.

Next on the agenda is getting my RAM working at a good speed. Ended up buying some DDR4 4000 because it was relatively cheap for Samsung B-Die. Obviously it failed miserably at loading its XMP profiles at both 3600 and 4000, right now I'm running it at 3200 CL14 because it doesn't require me to put more than the XMP standard 1.35v onto the memory. My understanding is that up to 1.5v is fine here and probably needed to push into the high DRAM frequency range, looking to see if I can push it up to 3600 since Ryzen DRAM calculator says I should be able to do that at relatively low timings.

spasticColon posted:

I actually don't want stagnation but I don't want to have to upgrade my rig every 2-3 years either. My rig before this one my C2D E8400 lasted me only three years but my current rig my 2500k@4.2GHz has lasted me almost eight years now and still runs every game I throw at it but some newer games don't run as good as they could because the CPU is finally starting to show its age.

pixaal posted:

The one time I had stuff fry the entire house shook and I was seeing spots for several minutes from the flash. It came in over the coaxial into the modem and out over the network. Every single NIC was worthless, the Cat5e still works 5 years later and we didn't bother rerunning it since it was working. All the hardware is still working too. Just slapped some PCIe NICs into the computers and set game consoles to wireless.

exquisite tea posted:

Well this is about the gaudiest ugliest heatsink I've ever seen, so I bought it and now my CPU is running a good 15-20C cooler under load. What a thing of beauty. Just don't cut your hands on the metal slats trying to install the drat thing!

orcane posted:

Turns out some options can only be changed with the +/- keys, which I didn't even try yesterday since it only applies to very few options and I was navigating the UEFI with my mouse. Most stuff (and everything in AsRock and Asus UEFIs I used for the past ~decade) can be clicked on or toggled through with enter, but most (but not all) of the Gigabyte's OC settings don't do anything if you do either of those. Navigating all voltage increments etc. like that is a pain but at least it works

Palladium posted:

I think Haswell was the last generation where every mobo wasn't drowned in XTREME GAMING labels outside of low-end.

Space Racist posted:

Stuff like this makes me never want to sway from air cooling. A NH-D15 may be huge but I can go years without having to even think about it.

Khorne posted:

Some potential zen2 leaks from a random chinese forum:

• ES is hitting 4.5 all core
  
• x570 has 40 PCIE lanes, some used by SATA
  
• x570 has 8 USB 3.1 gen2 (or whatever the name is, the usb standards people need to be put down)
  
• B550 has no PCIE4
  
• x570 potentially has more SATA ports without additional SATA controller? Unless I misunderstood that part of the image.
  

Overall, alright news I suppose. Really hoping for 4.7 all core on the high end x CPUs, but we'll see.

Palladium posted:

I have a simpler explanation from my experience in this hobby for 17 years: People are generally dumb at choosing components for PCs.

isndl posted:

If the magnetic fan fails to start do you have to shut it down and try again or give it an assisted start like one of those old prop planes?

LRADIKAL posted:

There is definitely a pc part picking thread that is happy to go back and forth on future proofing your next 100 dollar motherboard, thank you.

spasticColon posted:

I'm sorry but this feels like a wet fart to me or maybe I just bought into the hype too much.

If the Zen 2 launch pushes the 2700X down to ~$200 I'm just going to get a 2700X and a B450 or X470 board. I don't need the latest and greatest for gaming anyway. I'm still gaming on a older-than-dirt 2500k.

repiv posted:

Noctua is working on a TR4 version of the D15

priznat posted:

I had an acer ferrari branded laptop that was a turion 64 and it was actually a great machine. Didn’t give a crap about ferrari or anything, the specs to price ratio was really good at the time. Was actually fine for gaming and solidly built.

That was my first and only amd laptop

spasticColon posted:

I myself will probably just get a 3700X but I'm going to wait until the initial rush and price-gouging dies down first.

spasticColon posted:

I'm still on a older-than-dirt i5-2500k so I would have to build a new rig around a 3700X so hopefully there are some B450/X470 boards that will have Zen 2 support right out of the box. Does the MSI B450 Tomahawk support Zen 2? I don't want to spend $200+ on a X570 board and have to deal with a chipset fan. Or will B550 boards drop a month or two after Zen 2 releases?

Klyith posted:

The thing is, when I look at the prices of the 3800X and 3900X I feel like the 3900X is actually a decent deal. It's a *lot* of CPU for $400. If anything the 3800X is the member of the lineup that feels overpriced.

3peat posted:

Burno posted:

In my opinion the ASRock X570 Taichi is the best mid tier motherboard in the X570 lineup (in terms of features). It has everything the 330 to 400 dollar X570s have at 289.99 on Newegg.

If you're looking at the sub 200 ones, I'm not sure.

Seamonster posted:

It's me. I'm the odd one out.

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

I don't love it but it's been functional enough for me.

Media Bloodbath posted:

MSI added an offset option a while ago. I got a x470 pro carbon and am running a negative offset.

Cojawfee posted:

Whenever I built an AMD PC, I was always worried I was going to break the drat thing when putting those clips on.

apropos man posted:

That Anandtech article says a system that would previously idle at ~2.2GHz now idles at 3GHz. I don't like this. I'd rather see that poo poo clocking low when my PC is doing nothing.

Khorne posted:

I did use kryonaut paste and I put way too much because that is probably the most awkward paste I've ever used and I was paranoid about coverage due to chiplet placement. It's like using playdoh for a thermal paste. I had to take off the heatsink and clean up with isopropyl. Thankfully it's not conductive or I'd have had a much larger problem.

The Rat posted:

Well I just got done putting together the new build that I was posting about in the last week or two. (For reference: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/wasr10/saved/#view=L78vWZ )

Initially booted up and installed Windows fine off of a thumb drive. Seemed stable. Used a USB DVD drive to start installing the programs and drivers that came on the motherboard's included disc.

Then it crashed. Every time after that it'd reboot, even on occasions it would get to the Windows login screen, it'd crash shortly after that again.

Installed the latest BIOS flash from ASRock via USB drive. Still constantly rebooting.

Went in BIOS and told it to wipe the NVMe drive, figured I needed to do a fresh Windows install. Now the trouble is that even on a USB drive Windows install, I can't get past the first few pages of the installer (asking me what language, etc) before the system reboots itself again.

So far the only thing I've tried was reseating the RAM, putting only one in at a time with either stick, and both at the same time. (Currently in the A2/B2 slots.)

Not sure what else to try at this point. If I hit F2 while booting and load the BIOS screen, it'll sit there happily without rebooting, so I'm not sure if the power supply is suspect or not. (According to the BIOS, the CPU is sitting steadily at 53 C. Not sure if that's relevant here or not.)

In any case I have to head to work now, just wanted to throw this out there to see if anyone had any suggestions to tinker with when I get home.

Edit: oh and to add insult to injury, I had some files transferring from a external hard drive on my laptop while attempting to make the USB Windows boot drive, and then it went from a 4tb drive to a 28gb Windows install USB drive Haven't even started messing with that to see if I can at least get it back to its original capacity; I assume everything on there got wiped

The Rat posted:

One of the things I tried when booting off the Ubuntu thumb drive was letting it sit at the initial menu for a while. Sure enough it rebooted. So I dunno there.


Yeah, heat sink fan was running fine. Do you think the power supply is culpable even though it'll stay sitting on BIOS with no issues? Not that I've left it on for that long, but still.

Honestly I'm feeling like saying 'gently caress it' and starting to RMA what I can, since I'm still within the return window.

Cygni posted:

Please don’t use 1080p in 2019