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Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

isnt amd doing an entirely different chipset for itx?

Kind of. AMD announce five different chipsets for AM4 of which two, the X300 and the A200, were for SFF PCs. So far I believe we've only seen boards based on X370 and B350.

Drakhoran fucked around with this message at Apr 16, 2017 around 17:48

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Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


More specifically, Ryzen processors that ends with an X reports temperatures that are 20 degrees hotter than they actually are. It presumably has something to do with the eXtended Frequency Range thingy they have, but I don't think AMD has given any details.

Level1 techs made a video where they theorized about it if you're interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoE1s0pqjv0

Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


Paul MaudDib posted:

No, actually that says that 2% more of the Passmark runs were done on AMD systems. Which isn't quite the same thing, especially when Ryzen has performance problems that need a lot of tweaking to tune up properly. They don't even dedupe down to actual unique users, it's literally "runs of the software". Run it five times, you go in 5 times.

Steam results are probably going to be a little more meaningful, or some other source of data on actual systems as opposed to number of benchmark runs.

In that case, bad news for AMD:

Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


Depends on how far you want to overclock it. Kyle at Bitwit got his 1700 to 4 GHz with a Noctua cooler, but only to 3.9 GHz with the Spire.

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Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


Since we're linking to Videocardz.com, anyone feel like a 48 core "Starship" chip on 7nm next year?

Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


Methylethylaldehyde posted:

I'm just waiting for the APUs to have 16 or 32GB of HBM2 memory onboard and smoke the crap out of most of the discrete GPU systems out there. You can save a ton of cash by having everything on a system board the size of a postcard, and parley that into a thinner lighter product, or a product that's like 60% battery by volume.

Actually, I'd be super interested in an AMD CPU in a laptop with 16-32GB of HBM2 even without the integrated graphics.

I wonder if it would be possible to have off-socket HBM, or if the 8 shitzillion traces would cause it to fail miserably.

According to Fuad Abazovic, one 4GB stack of HBM2 memory costs $80. 16GB ($320) on a laptop CPU is not going to happen until prices come down.

Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


Kilson posted:

Are those wooden fans (edit: casings)? I imagine it's some kind of stupid audiophile equipment

Nah, that's just Noctua's signature color scheme.

I presume the cooler on the left is an EPYC cooler?

Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:

Is the demand constant, are miners buying them for the entire product life?

No, prices on all kinds of cryptocurrency are extremely volatile. One week miners will be buying up every card making them hard to get for actual gamers, next week they sell all their used cards on eBay bringing retail prices crashing down.



In unrelated news. Here is a picture of two Asrock X399 boards. Looks like the official name for the Threadripper socket will be TR4.

Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


That's a significant improvement.

Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


SwissArmyDruid posted:


Can I just say how happy I am that DVI connectors on motherboards seems to finally be dead?

Only in high end motherboads. Here is the Asus Prime B350M-A:




Notice that the video out options are:

1x HDMI
1x DVI-D
1x D-Sub.


That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.

Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:

There's no AMD CPU that would drive the onboard graphics output yet, anyway.

Technically the Bristol Ridge APUs released last year can.However I don't think those ever got a retail release.

Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


shrike82 posted:

I just set up a Ryzen 7 1700 with a 1080 Ti. I've installed the latest chipset drivers.

Is there any other setup I need to do to optimise my system?

Set the Windows Power Plan to Ryzen?

Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


Gamers Nexus has a video giving a quick overview of some of the X399 boards that will be available:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oglSj9dUoSo

Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


Volguus posted:

On newegg.ca the available threadripper motherboards are holy-poo poo expensive. sTR4 is the socket, right? Is there any other? https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ...624%20601301149

The Asus board listed on newegg.ca is their top end board. They have also annouced a low(er) end board, but it looks like it won't be out until a couple of weeks after the Threadripper launch.



priznat posted:

One thing I am trying to figure out is if there are any differences I would care about between the ASRock boards.

The main difference I can see is that the Fatal1ty board has a 10Gb ethernet port in addition to the two gigabit ports of the Taichi. When it comes to sound, the Taichi claims to support " Purity Sound™ 4" while the Fatal1ty instead supports "Creative Sound Blaster™ Cinema 3". Whatever that means.

Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


Paul MaudDib posted:

Opinion:

Lisa Su via WCCFtech transcription


Are those two sentences related, and if so what are the odds of it not being bullshit? Is GloFo in place to do some early pre-risk runs of engineering masks or something similar that might let them drop Ryzen2 late 2018?

According to this article :

quote:

GlobalFoundries has been processing test wafers using 7 nm process technology for clients for several quarters now. The company’s customers are already working on chips that will be made using 7 nm DUV process technology, and the company intends to start risk production of such ICs early in 2018.

So, maybe?

Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


People with AMD processors should keep an eye out for UEFI updates. Just as with the Intel Managemen Engine, AMD's security features appears to be not entirely secure.

Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


So apparently the 2700x can be overclocked to 6Ghz, if you use enough liquid Nitrogen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogYess5WelY

Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


Alpha Mayo posted:

Is it worth paying extra for X470 boards?

Only if you need features not available on older boards. As long as it has an up to date BIOS a B350 board should be fine if it otherwise meets your requirements.

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Drakhoran
Oct 21, 2012


About StoreMI, Wendell at Level1Techs made a video about how it differs from normal SSD cache stuff. He sounds quite enthusiastic about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbl2dYgjMQ4

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