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So I'm looking at building an AMD based system but I read that there may be new better AMD processors coming in just a few weeks and I am admittedly relatively clueless about the current state of processors. Is this something that would matter for a gaming desktop and would it be best to wait? Any idea if this is a thing that will actually be reasonably available and/or affordable? Finally, if I went ahead and got something like the Ryzen 3700 would I be able to upgrade easily in another year or so without changing motherboards?
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Sep 19, 2020 13:30
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Alright thanks. I'll most likely be waiting a few months to get a hold of a 3080 card anyway so I'm not in a big hurry.
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Sep 19, 2020 17:23
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So how good is AMD at keeping new stuff actually in stock?
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Sep 29, 2020 13:01
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Any dates yet? I look forward to having bots buy out all inventory of these for months before I can get a hold of one.
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Oct 8, 2020 17:26
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Pretty cool stuff so far. Not sure whether I want to pay the premium or wait to see how low the Zen 2 prices get and pick up a 3900 or something.
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Oct 8, 2020 17:46
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MikeC posted:Expect 0 price drops. These prices are specifically designed to keep 3000 series relevant. That Aussie SI was right on the money. Balls.
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Oct 8, 2020 17:52
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ijyt posted:IDK if I'm seeing the big deal about the price. They seem pretty on par with CPU prices over the last 10 years maybe? Maybe I'm just forgetting what I paid for mine. I don't think it's a big deal if you are used to getting Intel processors. It's just that people are used to AMD as being the scrappy budget friendly underdog.
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Oct 8, 2020 17:58
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They really need to start releasing RGB versions of these processors for gamers.
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Oct 8, 2020 18:11
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Maybe Intel will be forced to drop prices making the 10700/10900 the best bang for the buck gaming performance? 
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Oct 8, 2020 18:17
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I've been waiting for this announcement to pick up a mobo/processor and I think I'm just as stumped as before. The new chips look great but I'm actually weirdly leaning towards waiting on a deal for a 10700. It'll be months before I can get a graphics card anyway so at least I've got time.
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Oct 9, 2020 01:09
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Some Goon posted:Honestly the price bump is the one thing they could have done that would put Intel back in the running. They'll probably make bank off the margins, but savvy buyers might choose otherwise. Last I heard it was impossible to get a good, reasonably priced Intel Mobo though, so unless that's changed (and it's been a minute since I looked), AMD will likely have the cheaper total package. Good point about the mobo. I suspect there will be a fair number of bundle deals in the next few months.
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Oct 9, 2020 01:18
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movax posted:Apparently AMD may eat Xilinx next week. Time for a general news thread, I wonder? Wow, that would be huge news. Also, gently caress Xilinx and their lovely support.
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Oct 9, 2020 03:12
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Cojawfee posted:Can AMD force Xilinx to support their own products in their current software so I don't have to program my FPGA in a linux VM? Isn’t Windows 7 support good enough? gently caress Xilinx and Vivado.
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Oct 9, 2020 03:35
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Kaddish posted:Has the x570 Tomahawk been sold at MSRP anywhere since release? It pops up now and then on Amazon and Newegg but often sells out in minutes. I just backordered one two days ago.
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Oct 17, 2020 14:03
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Any word on the supply of these chips yet? I'd like to spring for the 5900x, but they are making hardly any of them I'll be more than happy with a 5800x.
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Nov 7, 2020 13:57
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Better than Nvidia is a pretty low bar, but that's at least a little promising.
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Nov 7, 2020 14:11
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I am getting so tired of the amazon 'add to cart - your cart is empty' dance.
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Nov 9, 2020 23:06
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Marxalot posted:No, just added once on amazon. Though I did notice some discords were pinging way earlier than others. Notably this one started dinging way before the ATR-Grift one (which only pinged for the 5600x) Thanks... this will be the third discord I am on for this (and ampere). I can't loving WAIT to be done with this.
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Nov 9, 2020 23:09
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I bought 32gb of 3200 MHz Crucial RAM, is this good or bad for a 5900? I know there was a lot of memory talk but I didn't really keep up with it. I could still return this and pick up something else if there is much room for improvement.
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Nov 10, 2020 00:35
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ijyt posted:I mean honestly differences are like, maybe a percent at most, in the 3200 - 4000Mhz range and C14-C16 timing range. it's really not worth sweating over. sean10mm posted:The best RAM without spending truly dumb money is probably Crucial Ballistix 3600 CL16 but the difference between that and decent 3200 CL16 is just not that much. Thanks. That is kind of what I was thinking, but since I can always return the memory (yay amazon) it didn't hurt to ask since it will probably be a long time before I get a 5900 in hand anyway.
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Nov 10, 2020 01:27
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xamphear posted:My launch day Amazon order for a 5900X is arriving today, drop shipped directly from Ingram Micro. Unfortunately it will have to stay in the box until MSI un-fucks their X570 board BIOSes. I'm glad I don't have to keep refreshing sites to find one, but it would be nice to actually use it. What’s wrong with MSI x570 BIOSes? I have a Tomahawk X570 I was planning to use.
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Nov 10, 2020 13:48
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mune posted:I thought I was out of the woods by getting my 3070, but it looks like the availability of the 5600X is also near-zero. I’m in like 3 Discords and have seen nothing lately. I hope these aren’t a repeat of ampere.
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Nov 13, 2020 04:58
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A lot of posters seem to have gotten a hold of these which is promising. Do you think we are looking at an Ampere type of situation? I'm on 3 discords and I'm hardly seeing any zen3 drops anywhere.
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Nov 14, 2020 19:47
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Cygni posted:Based on the discord im in, 5600X seems to be around occasionally. 5900X and 5950X is in lol territory. Yeah, I've noticed a lot more people signing up for notifications for the 5900x than any other flavor, which of course is the one I would like.
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Nov 15, 2020 16:09
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Nohearum posted:And Walmart officially bait & switched me. 5600x delivered for 20% over MSRP. 
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Nov 15, 2020 18:59
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Hell yes. Just scored a 5900x in a Newegg combo bundle with some corsair vengeance rgb pro memory. Is this memory alright? I actually don't care about RGB but 32 gigs of 3600MHz seems alright. I admit I don't know much about memory timing, especially in relation to AMD processors and motherboards. If it helps, I will be using it in an MSI Tomahawk x570 motherboard.
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Nov 17, 2020 01:29
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Hmm thanks. It looks like I could refund the RAM and only lose the $10 combo discount. I also have a set of Crucial Ballistix 3200 MHz RAM I had already bought from Amazon that I was going to return. Maybe keep that and return the corsair?
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Nov 17, 2020 02:09
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CaptainSarcastic posted:I'd say it looks meh. Looking on MSI's list of compatible memory it doesn't show up, but it doesn't look like MSI has updated the list in a while. What look like 8GB versions of the same RAM do show up, and MSI's chart shows only 2 of them can run at a time, so if that holds true you might not be able to add RAM in the future if you wanted to (I'm not sure going beyond 32GB is something most people would benefit from in the near future anyway). The timing on the chips looks normal for 3600, at least at a glance. The only other thing that stood out to me is that the chips (for the 8GB sticks, at least) are made by Spectek, which is not a name I'm used to seeing for memory. It looks like they are a subsidiary of Micron, and have a middling reputation as far as I can tell. It doesn't sound like messing with RAM timings or overclocking memory is your thing, but if it was then I'd be more dubious about that RAM. I got it in the mail today and it says it is v3.41 but I can’t seem to find out much about it. Is this a bad or good die or the Spectek you posted about?
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Nov 19, 2020 22:53
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So I've just built my new Zen3 5900x based PC (posting on it right now in fact) but I am admittedly a little clueless on basic performance enchancing and/or motherboard settings. My motherboard is an MSI Tomahawk x570 wifi. Does anybody have a basic idiots guide to BIOS tweaks and improvements? I know I should probably boost my memory up to at least 3200 MHz. What are some good (preferably free) software tools for testing my build? At the moment I only have MSI afterburner installed. I'm not the sort of person that wants to push my computer to the bleeding edge, but I also don't want to leave 'free' performance at the door. It would also be nice to have some sort of software to give me a warm and fuzzy feeling that everything is working as it should.
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Nov 21, 2020 17:55
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What kind of temps should concern me for a 5900x? I ran a benchmark in total war warhammer 2 and got a max CPU temp of 91c using Core Temp which seems a little hot to me.
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Nov 21, 2020 20:18
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Arzachel posted:91C° is fine for heavy all core load but probably too high for a gaming bench. What cooler are you using and what's the case fan setup? Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280. Phanteks P500A case with AIO radiator out at the top, 1 out fan in the back, and 3 intake fans in the front. Here's a pic in case I made any stupidly obvious mistakes.  e: I peaked at 69c just while writing this post and googling a bit.
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Nov 21, 2020 20:42
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sean10mm posted:If you're getting high temperatures FAST then something is definitely wrong, those AIOs take a relatively long time to heat up all the water in the loop. Yes I removed the film and applied a normal amount of paste. I think it must be my aio install so i will redo it once I get more paste.
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Nov 21, 2020 21:17
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pixaal posted:Pretty sure your water cooling is wrong explained here He describes it as the proper way to do a top mount? I took it apart and I think the problem is that I'm an idiot and the screws weren't tightened well leading to an air gap on one side. Unfortunately I have to wait until Monday to fix it because of lack of thermal compound. I won't really know for sure until I put it back together again but it definitely didn't seem quite right pulling it off. Welp!
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Nov 21, 2020 22:43
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Ok so now that my cpu is running cool again (fixed AIO install) are there any easy bios improvements (low hanging fruit) to get performance increases? I've got my memory running at 3200 Mhz but I'm not sure what other settings I should toy with.
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Nov 25, 2020 23:23
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I've been pretty happy with my x570 MSI tomahawk motherboard so far fwiw.
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Dec 5, 2020 17:32
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