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VealCutlet posted:Got my 1600 to 3.9GHz @1.45v but have decided 3.8GHz@1.35v is a better outcome in regards to heat/perf. Why is the i7-4770K performing worse in Cinebench at 4.4 vs 3.5?
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If I can get a R5 1600X for $217, is that a good "jump in" price? It seems like a lot of people are going with the R7 1700 (non-X), so want to make sure I'm not missing something.
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VulgarandStupid posted:I'm pretty sure the general consensus is that all of the non-X ones will overclock to the same clock as their X counter part and come with a cooler. Normally the cooler wouldn't be a big deal, but AM4 cooler brackets are some what rare these days. So in short, you're still spending Isn't the Wraith Spire inadequate for OC'ing the 1700 though?
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May 2, 2017 08:06
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orcane posted:Also this one says Intel Gigabit Ethernet on the X370 picture. 
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May 30, 2017 00:14
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:intel gigabit ethernet is a good NIC and pretty cheap and it's on a lot of AM3 and FM2 boards, even Oh I don't disagree, I just still find it funny.
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May 30, 2017 00:22
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Someone quote the Threadripper comic.
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May 31, 2017 03:51
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PerrineClostermann posted:Vega is a concept, an ideal we strive towards. There is no Vega, because Vega represents our yearnings and struggles toward the future. Vega is pure, and will forever be beyond reach. Then tell me why there's 18 hours of static?!?!?!
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May 31, 2017 18:43
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HalloKitty posted:I'm not talking in relation to gaming at all, I'm just saying it's a nice bonus for other uses People like to move the goalposts, tis all.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:12
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Combat Pretzel posted:Oh dear: What news article?
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Jun 4, 2017 21:49
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Yeah I thought that was funny too.
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Jun 17, 2017 20:15
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mmkay posted:The slides are on techpowerup Hmm..
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Jun 20, 2017 22:58
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Wirth1000 posted:Phone posting to say I hate places that have to test out stuff before you return/exchange and the tech guys are always the most anti social shitlords Welcome to Fry's Electronics!
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Jun 22, 2017 02:37
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lamentable dustman posted:You can get the 1700x for under 300 from Walmart of all places if you chose in store pickup. The killer is that there's almost always going to be tax, and it was $300 on eBay tax-free a few weeks ago.
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Jun 22, 2017 03:29
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Don Lapre posted:Hot air doesn't rise fast enough to overcome fan pressure. Hot air rising and cold air falling is really moot inside a pc case unless its fanless. I think he's referring to having front mounted with fans pulling external air in. While likely a small difference, it would be superior to a top-mounted radiator doing the same.
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sincx posted:Doesn't every 1 degree rise in temperature increase hard drive failure rates by a few percent a year? The first comment has already been responded to, but regarding the second: you have to remember that air is not good at conducting heat, because the molecules are too spread out to see a large amount of heat absorbed. Thus, as you'd expect, cold air is better than warm air at conducting heat, since the molecules are every so slightly closer together. So when you use a radiator to cool a liquid such as for a CLC, you're depending in part on the ambient air being cooler than the temperature of the fluid that is moving through the radiator and heating the fins, and also in that the fins are effectively reducing the opening area the air is passing through. The fan(s) pulling or pushing air in through a radiator are operating at some speed that corresponds to a flow rate though the effective open area of the radiator. Thus we're mechanically forcing the air to compress, which helps to increase, ever so slightly, the absorption capability of the air. In terms of internal case temperature, we're counting as much on simply engaging in air exchange of the internal volume, utilizing convection to reduce internal temperatures. The temperatures you then see inside the case are going to depend a lot upon how the system is set up (positive/negative pressure), the number of fans, whether filters are present, etc. Ultimately it's important to remember that it's easy to see internal air exchange depending on fan configuration and get the internal temperature down, but it's more difficult to cool a processor, and providing the greatest delta-T for the radiator's medium (air) is advantageous.
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BurritoJustice posted:Thermaltake basically exclusively makes aluminium WC parts. It pains me whenever I walk into my local computer store and they have EK loops with Thermaltake aluminium radtiaors that I just know are going to be completely destroyed by galvanic corrosion. Eh, I wouldn't be too worried about galvanic corrosion in the time frame most users will see these parts installed for.
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Jun 29, 2017 15:48
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"Threadripper"' is a loving awesome name and anyone who says otherwise is objectively wrong. It's like the Assmann Corporation of America.
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eames posted:Other observations: The Wraith Spire does? I thought only the Wraith Max cooler did.
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Jul 4, 2017 18:05
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Combat Pretzel posted:So there's actually no Threadripper rocking it like it's 1998X? Nope, it's even better. We all get to be happy with the 1950s like
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incoherent posted:Or, ya know, pay a dividend. ever. Dividends are for companies in good financial situations. That's not AMD.
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fishmech posted:AMD hasn't appeared to have paid a dividend, ever, at least since January 13, 1978 when google starts tracking their stock. Surely you wouldn't count them as never being in a good financial situation since 1978? We'd have to know what their cash and liquidity situation has been during that time. Companies shouldn't pay dividends whenever they happen to be in the black. The closest I'd imagine they came to being in a good position to do so was in the mid-2000s and instead they bought ATI which is worth a whole separate discussion. There are plenty of much more stable companies who've never paid dividends, and I think most would rather see AMD survive then try to appease some armchair stock investors.
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I'm assuming that a R7 1700 for $269.99 is a good deal?
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Jul 11, 2017 18:26
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eames posted:
But MAH FRAMES
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Jul 13, 2017 15:31
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Otakufag posted:Hi somebody from the future told me Zen 2 will be AMD's Sandybridge, is it true?? That'll be Threadripper. Rip and Tear.
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Jul 22, 2017 06:37
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Ihmemies posted:I wish someone then sold smooth looking atx cases with tempered glass windows so I could go full retard with RGB.. like this, but larger: Raijintek Thetis?
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Jul 26, 2017 07:20
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PerrineClostermann posted:Christ tell me about it. I knew they did some poo poo, but not on this long and pervasive a level. If every country had hit Intel as hard as the EU did, they might have changed their actual business practices. But alas...
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Jul 27, 2017 02:44
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:lawyers: If it's one thing Back to the Future 2 guessed significantly wrong, it was the legal system.
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repiv posted:VCZ: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1900X price leaked  I know what I'm buying!
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Jul 31, 2017 02:11
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Source is PCWorld I wish that tab said "RIP AND TEAR HERE" instead.
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HalloKitty posted:Shame the Ryzen system is hobbled with slow RAM... AMD really needs to tweak the architecture in this regard. There's no reason it can't use DDR4-3200, beyond what Combat Pretzel mentioned about using a stock system for the test bench. I'm actually impressed that it did so well when not using DDR-3200.
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"Threadripper is pretty good but holy poo poo the Area 51 sucks."
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I'm so ready to build a Threadripper system. Someone want to buy a lightly-used i7-4770K?
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Generic Monk posted:also anyone buying Since I know you post in the Mac thread, there, I fixed that for you. Yeah, Threadripper might not be the best option (yet) for gaming, but it falls into that same category as a lot of other hardware that people spend far more than they need to for the intended purposes. Look at Apple's accounting books and all that money that could be going to leftist parties!!!
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Generic Monk posted:anyway a mac is a demonstrably nicer experience than competitors for general usage and productivity rather than being measurably worse so i don't understand your analogy The "analogy" was really just to point out how ridiculous your statement was, but if you meant it 100% as a joke, cool. Threadripper is not "measurably" worse any more than Macs are "demonstrably better" at general usage. Once Safari/Firefox/etc. is open and Joe Casual is reading Facebook or once Excel or Word is open, he will literally not be able to see any demonstratable difference between a $1000 Lenovo (with superior specs) or a $1800 rMBP besides that his porn might look a little better on the Retina display. Guess he should have donated that $800 to a leftist party! WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:turn left, amd thread, nooooooooo...! Don't worry, that's my last response to the derail.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Do we know which of the four dies are dummies and which aren't? I'm thinking what I'll do is put a long rice grain over the two active dies and screw the other two if they are purely structural. But the whole IHS will still heat up so you're constraining a part of its ability to dissipate heat? 
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Eyochigan posted:I imagine the space between the two dies will be significantly warmer than the edges of the heat spreader. But the edges will still get quite warm, by the assumption that a heatsink will heat up and lose its ability to disperse some of that energy. Well the IHS is going to reach thermal equilibrium so the more cooler contact area that can be provided the better the thermal dispersion will be.
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Pfft, besides, real nerds would use Halon suppression.
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AMD CPU and Platfrom Discussion: A New Platfrom has Ryzen for Trading Framez for Lanez
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dont be mean to me posted:Your room is not every room. That's outlandish but not absurd for, say, a computer in a wine cellar with ideal ventilation and airflow inside and out. The construction site I sometimes visit has trailers that sometimes get set as low as 18 C, so I can believe someone might want/keep a really cool room.
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Paul MaudDib posted:They get more poo poo about being anti-AMD than I do. Not sure that's possible! 
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