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Just voted. Excited about the Soviet book, huge fan of non-fic rather than just books you read in English AP. Looking forward to the next iteration where I can plunk some recommendations down.
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drat, doesn't look like two of the three main front runners are available in audiobook form. anatomy of fascism is, but the others are not. big shame on the last soviet generation, too, that one looks like an interesting sociological study that a body could take some relatable lessons from. also, i am gonna keep recommending big dead place until we read it. seriously, that book is so c-spam it must be read here.
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Apr 18, 2017 15:23
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Comin up on zero hour, vote while you can!  ***FIRST ROUND OF VOTING IS UP***UP FOR 24 HOURS, TOP FIVE RUNOFF IF NOTHING GETS 50% WHICH THEY PROBABLY WON'T LIST OF BOOKS WITH DESCRIPTIONS HERE: https://pastebin.com/WdG34pGi VOTE HERE: http://www.strawpoll.me/12770539 THE RULES: 1) Vote for up to 5 you'd like to read 2) You cannot vote for your own. Honor system, DON'T gently caress THIS UP OR I'LL JUST GO DICTATOR
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Apr 18, 2017 18:16
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Epic High Five posted:Comin up on zero hour, vote while you can! Oh poo poo. I should have read this fully and I didn't and I voted for Tenth of December, which was my own. I'm sorry. It's not going to win anyway and you can just subtract one vote.
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Apr 18, 2017 20:18
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cda posted:Oh poo poo. I should have read this fully and I didn't and I voted for Tenth of December, which was my own. I'm sorry. It's not going to win anyway and you can just subtract one vote. It isn't going to make a difference in this case but I appreciate your honesty FINAL ROUND OF BOOK CLUB VOTING HAS BEGUNPOLL: http://www.strawpoll.me/12775981 JUST PICK ONE THIS TIME, whatever ends up on top wins, percentage be damned because I'm not going to bother with a dozen rounds of this to get to 50%
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Apr 18, 2017 21:31
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Everything Was Forever, Until It Was No More: The Last Soviet Generation looks really good but the kindle edition is like $35 and the paperback is almost $50 on Amazon.
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Apr 18, 2017 21:54
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Helsing posted:Everything Was Forever, Until It Was No More: The Last Soviet Generation looks really good but the kindle edition is like $35 and the paperback is almost $50 on Amazon. I've already considered this issue and if it wins, I'll definitely refrain from trying to acquire an epub version that I would absolutely not post somewhere the grubby public could get their hands on it
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Apr 18, 2017 21:57
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Epic High Five posted:I've already considered this issue and if it wins, I'll definitely refrain from trying to acquire an epub version that I would absolutely not post somewhere the grubby public could get their hands on it *votes for Everything was Forever* Looks like I'm once again falling prey to the false promise of Marxism
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Apr 18, 2017 22:05
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Helsing posted:*votes for Everything was Forever*
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Apr 18, 2017 22:05
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Also seriously people All Quiet is a classic and you should read it but it's honestly not that interesting, it's a pretty generic "war is hell" story, well written but I don't know how much interesting discussion it would generate compared to this awesome sounding book about the USSR
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Apr 18, 2017 22:06
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Helsing posted:Also seriously people All Quiet is a classic and you should read it but it's honestly not that interesting, it's a pretty generic "war is hell" story, well written but I don't know how much interesting discussion it would generate compared to this awesome sounding book about the USSR A good argument to have made in the last few days
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Apr 18, 2017 22:07
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Epic High Five posted:A good argument to have made in the last few days I know, but I didn't see this thread until now. Still excited for whatever gets picked!
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Apr 18, 2017 22:11
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officially proposing after this we we pick like five or so short stories or even perhaps some long-form articles so we get more variety and people who want speculative fiction can get some and people who want 19th century naturalism can get some or whatever it is that you be wanting and desiring in ur reading pleasure
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Apr 18, 2017 22:17
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Fidel Castronaut posted:officially proposing after this we we pick like five or so short stories or even perhaps some long-form articles so we get more variety and people who want speculative fiction can get some and people who want 19th century naturalism can get some or whatever it is that you be wanting and desiring in ur reading pleasure If next round changes in any significant way it will probably be around a theme, one which I will exercise my role as Chairman to select I'm partial to "short story collection" as a theme but we will see My main goal is to keep things interesting and varied
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Apr 18, 2017 22:18
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So should I just go ahead and purchase the soviet book? When are you closing voting?
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Apr 18, 2017 23:23
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I did a thing posted:So should I just go ahead and purchase the soviet book? When are you closing voting? Tomorrow morning or afternoon, it's already slowed down so it'll be whenever I get settled in at work. I wouldn't purchase it yet, a lot of the unruly alcoholic who only post at 2am have yet to vote
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Apr 18, 2017 23:25
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do i have to read it or can i just use it as a marital aid and write a review
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Apr 18, 2017 23:26
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fine literature as found in the Library of Congress
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Apr 18, 2017 23:46
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Oh dang I nearly missed all the voting! Stupid work/school trip keeping me too busy to read all my internets 
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Apr 19, 2017 00:12
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Reminder again for gettin' off work krew FINAL ROUND OF BOOK CLUB VOTING HAS BEGUN POLL: http://www.strawpoll.me/12775981 JUST PICK ONE THIS TIME, whatever ends up on top wins, percentage be damned because I'm not going to bother with a dozen rounds of this to get to 50%
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Apr 19, 2017 00:56
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Holy poo poo how did my drunk recommendation get so many votes. Cats cradle is an easy read give it a shot friends! I'm excited to read about soviet Russia
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Apr 19, 2017 04:48
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It looks like the Soviet book will win If uh, anybody can find a source for it that isn't like $35 and could share it with the CSPAM discord (working on getting a channel made) I'd appreciate it because I would like good turnout for book #1 also ya u should all totally read Cat's Cradle and esp Mother Night
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Apr 19, 2017 04:50
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when do the polls close?
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Apr 19, 2017 04:52
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Baloogan posted:when do the polls close? whenever I wake up but your book has a comfy lead
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Apr 19, 2017 04:53
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i have grading to do and have to finish my master's portfolio. i hope i have time to get the book read!
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Apr 19, 2017 04:59
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So it's almost certainly going to be the Soviet book at this point. It's only available through Amazon that I've found, so of course order it if you can afford, but if you cannot just hang out for a bit until we get the discord channel set up and await further instruction
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Apr 19, 2017 05:15
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What's a discord? I'll call my used book stores tomorrow though and see if it's around here
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Apr 19, 2017 05:20
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Consummate Professional posted:What's a discord? I'll call my used book stores tomorrow though and see if it's around here 
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Apr 19, 2017 05:22
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Apr 19, 2017 05:30
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eonwe posted:cool can u create discord channels as a baloogan
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Apr 19, 2017 05:30
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HELLO FRIENDS PLEASE JOIN US IN THE DISCORD CHANNEL FOR FUTURE DISCUSSIONS AND MAYBE SOME LINKS TO THINGS OF VALUE https://discord.gg/hDKr5re
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Apr 19, 2017 05:38
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Everything Was Forever is available on Scribd, if you have an account. You have to pay for Scribd but it's cheaper ($8) to make an account for this book and then cancel it than buying the book for $30.
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Apr 19, 2017 06:27
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wow today was busier than anticipated, oh well, here's the next phase PHASE 3: THE READENING The winning book, Everything was Forever, is available in a variety of places, including under the pinned posts in the Discord. I suggest you buy it if you can afford, to support authors. It's a bit over 300 pages, and if there's no objections, I'm going to say we will meet on May 3rd, at 9pm EST to discuss it formally, which gives us 2 weeks. If anybody feels you will need longer please let it be known, this date is flexible. I do want the thread itself to be a discussion place, and I want it to be throughout the 2 week reading period. In short, the formal rule here is DISCUSS FREELY IN THE FORUM, BUT USE SPOILER TAGS LIBERALLY I'd say keep it to the thread rather than the Discord because more people actually use and check this, so it will be a better place to share impressions and thoughts. Any objections? let them be known now
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Apr 19, 2017 21:12
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i just read it and thought itw as ok OP
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An Eternal State “It had never even occurred to me that in the Soviet Union anything could ever change. Let alone that it could disappear. No one expected it. Neither children, nor adults. There was a complete impression that everything was forever.” So spoke Andrei Makarevich, the famous songwriter and musician, in a televised interview (1994). In his published memoirs, Makarevich later remembered that he, like millions of Soviet citizens, had always felt that he lived in an eternal state (vechnoe gosudarstvo) (2002, 14). It was not until around 1986 and 1987, when reforms of perestroika (reconstruction) were already afoot, that the possibility of the socialist system not lasting forever even entered his mind. Many others have described a similar experience of the profound feeling of the Soviet system’s permanence and immutability, and the complete unexpectedness of its collapse. And yet, Makarevich and many Soviet people also quickly discovered another peculiar fact: despite the seeming abruptness of the collapse, they found themselves prepared for it. A peculiar paradox became apparent in those years: although the system’s collapse had been unimaginable before it began, it appeared unsurprising when it happened. When the policies of perestroika and glasnost’ (openness, public discussion) were introduced in 1985, most people did not anticipate that any radical changes would follow. These campaigns were thought to be no different from the endless state-orchestrated campaigns before them: campaigns that came and went, while life went on as usual. However, within a year or two the realization that something unimaginable was taking place began to dawn on the Soviet people. Many speak of having experienced a sudden “break of consciousness” (perelom soznania) and “stunning shock” (sil’neishii shok) quickly followed by excitement and readiness to participate in the transformation. Although different people experienced that moment differently, the type of experience they describe is similar, and many remember it vividly.
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Apr 19, 2017 21:56
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Started reading, lets see if i can keep up. I like the subject, but since it is not really my field of expertise, i am not sure i can discuss much about it. But we will see. Good initiative 
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Apr 19, 2017 22:33
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Thatim posted:Started reading, lets see if i can keep up. I like the subject, but since it is not really my field of expertise, i am not sure i can discuss much about it. a lot of the most valuable contributions to a book club are simply different perspectives and interpretations of the same passages. it encourages other readers to understand other points of view. even if you discard those points of view as superfluous or uninteresting 15 minutes later, it still is a big deal for the overall value extracted from the book to have at least considered them. i've got it on my kindle, hoping i can find a quiet afternoon to read soon but i'm not holding my breath with how my last few weeks have gone. even if i can't read it, i'll be following ya'll's discussions closely
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Apr 19, 2017 22:36
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Ordered my copy, can't wait to read it.
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Coolguye posted:a lot of the most valuable contributions to a book club are simply different perspectives and interpretations of the same passages. it encourages other readers to understand other points of view. even if you discard those points of view as superfluous or uninteresting 15 minutes later, it still is a big deal for the overall value extracted from the book to have at least considered them. This I've seen as many valid and interesting viewpoints/interpretations brought up by near illiterates about books as I have from studied professionals. You never know what someone is going to take away from a book, because the output is a product of this + everything they've read before and everything they think and the dominant traits of their personality. Book clubs are absolutely essential to sound smart about books because they give you a ton of lines and "well what I thought was.." moments to steal and claim credit for among your friends
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