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Condiv posted:and yet everyone else in the party is worse. which is why they couldn't oust him (also why the tried to oust him while the tories had their pants down) there are actually competent people in the party but they've all headed for the hills or are running for lord mayor of asschester or whatnot because it was obvious after corbyn won that the party was heading for 1983 part II. all the political opportunities are in the rebuilding afterwards, not the futile infighting to try to stop it and then the possible loss of your seat when it happens. gonna be a whole lot of vulnerable tory seats in 2021 when brexit has blown up in their face
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Jose posted:I think hamprince just lusts for war in the middle east lusting for war in the middle east with a republican in the white house is like being addicted to tapwater
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's funny how easily Blairites are willing to forget that they lost to the guy who hosed a pig.
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jBrereton posted:*in extremely Blairite voice* Gordon Brown lost to D Camz, not Blair!! Ed Miliband has been retroactively declared centrist scum i guess despite having been the more left-wing upset winner over his brother in the 2010 leadership fight. by 2020 labour members are gonna be moaning about how corbyn's milktoast third-wayism cost them the election and how only lenin's embalmed corpse has the proper credentials to lead labour to victory
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Jose posted:I think hamprince just lusts for war in the middle east But Corbyn personally isn't a great speaker with of lot of charisma or whatever, he was a soft-spoken backbencher without much ambition. The other issue is the migrant panic, which hasn't and won't go away for a long time, and is now currently pushing France towards Le Pen. The default stance on that issue has I think decisively shifted right, in a pretty big way. So even if Brexit makes the economy go south, I don't think the conservatives are going to suffer much from it, because the dominant force behind leave was never about economic efficiency, but immigrants & the way migrant workers have been demonized for the effects of austerity and such. So even if people want higher minimum wage and poo poo, they won't vote labor because migrants. rudatron has issued a correction as of 10:57 on Apr 22, 2017 |
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Why does all the media outlets seem to hate Corbyn anyway? Even The Guardian hates him. Is it just because he's a socialist? His policies seem pretty sensible on paper.
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Tingfinder posted:Why does all the media outlets seem to hate Corbyn anyway? Even The Guardian hates him.
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Tingfinder posted:Why does all the media outlets seem to hate Corbyn anyway? Even The Guardian hates him. ideology Team Corbyn's poor PR skills (mix of inexperience, defensiveness and internal Labour party shenanigans) dominant cultural narratives useful idiots in the Labour right
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In that case they should probably consider making some changes, the polls are not looking great for them. Obviously doesn't help that a lot of ill informed workers are voting for the rich people to screw them over, due to their misguided fears of immigrants. Seems like just some basic history lessons would make them realize how silly it is to just blame the immigrants.
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Tingfinder posted:Is it just because he's a socialist? Yes. If Jezza and friends were more charismatic and relatable, then that would only amplify the terror of him - and the media environment would become even more nasty. The Guardian is owned by a private trust company. The entire British media takes their marching orders from people who are violently opposed to any genuine socialist advocacy.
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Tingfinder posted:In that case they should probably consider making some changes, the polls are not looking great for them. quote:Obviously doesn't help that a lot of ill informed workers are voting for the rich people to screw them over, due to their misguided fears of immigrants. Seems like just some basic history lessons would make them realize how silly it is to just blame the immigrants.
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corbyn isn't media friendly and his mps keep trying to stab him in the back. eagerly awaiting yvette to be the next one to try.
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Are there any charismatic MPs within Labour's left? Who's likely to carry the standard when Corbyn wipes out?
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Yes. fake news didnt make corbyn put a 3 line whip on brexit, he's insanely incompetent and 'biased lamestream media' is just as much of an excuse here as it is when everyone else uses it
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Fallen Hamprince posted:fake news didnt make corbyn put a 3 line whip on brexit, he's insanely incompetent and 'biased lamestream media' is just as much of an excuse here as it is when everyone else uses it I don't think you really get what you're quoting there.
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:Are there any charismatic MPs within Labour's left? Who's likely to carry the standard when Corbyn wipes out? There was one named Jo Cox, but she was murdered. edit: i should note that i don't think this was a conspiracy or anything, the murderer was a far-right racist: Cox was singled out for attack as a "passionate defender" of the European Union and immigration. Mair viewed the Labour MP as "one of 'the collaborators' [and] a traitor" to white people. The court heard testimony that during the attack, Mair had cried out "This is for Britain" as well as "keep Britain independent" and "Britain first" Tingfinder has issued a correction as of 14:46 on Apr 22, 2017 |
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tragically history turns on more than the actions of one individual, regardless of who they are - even Jeremy Corbyn come to terms with your own powerlessness
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:Are there any charismatic MPs within Labour's left? Who's likely to carry the standard when Corbyn wipes out? clive lewis maybe
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Ukip candidate Gisella Allen says she would bring back the death penalty by guillotine "Ms Allen also wants to abolish nurseries, golf courses, plastic bags, sex education, free bus passes and LGBT communities." Welp, looks like Nigel Farage has some competition for the rear end in a top hat award. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...s-a7696651.html
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Tingfinder posted:Ukip candidate Gisella Allen says she would bring back the death penalty by guillotine ok noone is THIS ukip, clearly a gimmick. also i've never heard anyone rage against nurseries, but what the gently caress do i know i guess.
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Tingfinder posted:Ukip candidate Gisella Allen says she would bring back the death penalty by guillotine didnt expect to see UKIP borrowing policies from the left wing
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Fallen Hamprince posted:didnt expect to see UKIP borrowing policies from the left wing I suppose some environmentalists wants to ban plastic bags in favor for more sustainable materials, not sure about the other ideas being leftist though, but i'd love to learn more about it if they are. Oh i guess the guillotine was also leftist, but somehow i doubt that a ukipper wants to use it on the bourgeoisie.
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Tingfinder posted:I suppose some environmentalists wants to ban plastic bags in favor for more sustainable materials, not sure about the other ideas being leftist though, but i'd love to learn more about it if they are. bring back hanging but only for joke ruiners
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Fallen Hamprince posted:bring back hanging but only for joke ruiners Sorry i can be dense like that sometimes
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Looks like there's still hope that May will screw this up: British PM May refuses to rule out personal tax hikes after election "The top-selling Sun newspaper splashed "No, No, No Prime Minister" on its front page while the Daily Telegraph said the prime minister risked a backlash, as the normally supportive newspapers attacked May's early campaign steps." http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-election-may-idUSKBN17O0D6?il=0 Also Britain taking a backseat as Trump wants to do trade deal with EU first.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:bring back hanging but only for joke ruiners You'd be the first to hang tho
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Tingfinder posted:I suppose some environmentalists wants to ban plastic bags in favor for more sustainable materials, not sure about the other ideas being leftist though, but i'd love to learn more about it if they are. i'm super leftist and i've never heard a policy proposal to ban golf courses before but i'm super into it the more i think about this the better it sounds. let's get this in the platform the bitcoin of weed has issued a correction as of 07:36 on Apr 23, 2017 |
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