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Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

https://twitter.com/parliawint/status/854773612292788224

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Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016



https://twitter.com/hansmollman/status/855422838056079360

btw i've had irn bru before and despite being ~1/2 scottish i cant imagine how anyone can drink that horrible poo poo, tasted like someone spat bubblegum into a diet coke

Fallen Hamprince has issued a correction as of 15:18 on Apr 21, 2017

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

rudatron posted:

Labor third-wayers are gonna coup corbyn after the election, and in the process blow up labor.

the guy everybody said would be a complete useless failure is a complete useless failure AND ITS ALL TONY BLAIRS FAULT

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Jose posted:

Labour having nobody competent to replace him is Blair's fault yes

people say labour's all incompetent but look at the competition in recent years:

- david cameron, the guy who assfucked his entire career and legacy and possibly/probably destroyed the UK in the process
- theresa may, the lady who looked at brexit and said "yeah, i want to be in charge of that 4 sure", running as a populist despite being PM and leader of the rich people party
- boris and that hosed up puppet-looking midget who's name i forget who accidentally succeeded in brexiting and then knifed each other in the back
- snp, a party that literally only runs in a small fraction of the country
- lib dems (lmao)

that corbyn is running against all these people and doing historically badly is a testament to how unusually terrible of a leader he is

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Condiv posted:

and yet everyone else in the party is worse. which is why they couldn't oust him (also why the tried to oust him while the tories had their pants down)

too bad blair left the party in such bad shape huh?

there are actually competent people in the party but they've all headed for the hills or are running for lord mayor of asschester or whatnot because it was obvious after corbyn won that the party was heading for 1983 part II. all the political opportunities are in the rebuilding afterwards, not the futile infighting to try to stop it and then the possible loss of your seat when it happens. gonna be a whole lot of vulnerable tory seats in 2021 when brexit has blown up in their face

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Jose posted:

I think hamprince just lusts for war in the middle east

lusting for war in the middle east with a republican in the white house is like being addicted to tapwater

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

jBrereton posted:

*in extremely Blairite voice* Gordon Brown lost to D Camz, not Blair!!

Ed Miliband has been retroactively declared centrist scum i guess despite having been the more left-wing upset winner over his brother in the 2010 leadership fight. by 2020 labour members are gonna be moaning about how corbyn's milktoast third-wayism cost them the election and how only lenin's embalmed corpse has the proper credentials to lead labour to victory

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

https://twitter.com/parliawint/status/855531682342084609

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016



https://twitter.com/janinegibson/status/855686869685850112

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Yes.

If Jezza and friends were more charismatic and relatable, then that would only amplify the terror of him - and the media environment would become even more nasty. The Guardian is owned by a private trust company. The entire British media takes their marching orders from people who are violently opposed to any genuine socialist advocacy.

fake news didnt make corbyn put a 3 line whip on brexit, he's insanely incompetent and 'biased lamestream media' is just as much of an excuse here as it is when everyone else uses it

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Tingfinder posted:

Ukip candidate Gisella Allen says she would bring back the death penalty by guillotine

"Ms Allen also wants to abolish nurseries, golf courses, plastic bags, sex education, free bus passes and LGBT communities."

Welp, looks like Nigel Farage has some competition for the rear end in a top hat award.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...s-a7696651.html

didnt expect to see UKIP borrowing policies from the left wing

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Tingfinder posted:

I suppose some environmentalists wants to ban plastic bags in favor for more sustainable materials, not sure about the other ideas being leftist though, but i'd love to learn more about it if they are.

Oh i guess the guillotine was also leftist, but somehow i doubt that a ukipper wants to use it on the bourgeoisie.

bring back hanging but only for joke ruiners

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

That's really bringing up an interesting question. Is golf the most expensive sport in terms of labor and resources? Because all of the water, land, and groundskeeping that's necessary just to maintain the ability to play has to be astronomical even compared to a sport like baseball, where you can just play on astroturf.

hockey might be more

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Jose posted:

Golf absolutely is because people like to put them in the middle of deserts

true but its probably way cheaper in places like scotland where large parts of the country are basically primeval golf courses to begin with

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

https://twitter.com/parliawint/status/856234273132744705

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

as popular as senility among right wing leaders is atm it's obviously the same 'i have no idea what podunk town this is' thing that happens whenever national-level politicians go campaigning

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

"I was really impressed by the can-do attitude of the hard-working folk in *glances at notecard* Grottingham-upon-Lump, especially when I toured their lovely *glances at notecard again* bog-body factory."

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

and i must meme posted:



this is pretty depressing

24% ethnic nationalists lol

oh wow Britain is super hosed lol

wonder how much of that left-wing quarter lives in Scotland

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Dunno myself but the Parti Québécois is a good example of a left-wing [edit: social democratic really] nationalist party easily absorbing (or revealing) ethnic nationalist stuff that wouldn't be out of place at a Front National rally. The problem with nationalism is that it can flip like that on a dime and I don't see why the SNP would be immune, even if it's only latent right now. Give it time.

The PQ is pretty much the FN lite now, they haven't been left-wing for a while.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/status/858810953353367552

giant 30 tweet thread on a leak regarding brexit negotiations, you should really read the whole thing (it's pretty hillarious) but long story short May has literally no idea what she is doing and the most likely outcome is increasingly 'rock-hard brexit with no trade deal or condom'

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

good news, the SNP is expected to do quite well!

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Jose posted:

good luck in your election btw mate its just a shame you're a tory

well he's british so yeah

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

tbf to the British colonial administrators, they probably would have let their own poor people starve too

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

oliwan posted:

A cool book on this subject is Britain's Empire: Resistance, Repression and Revolt by Richard Gott (2001), which aims to deconstruct the British version of empire history in which the British where met with only minimal violence and resistance.

Here's a quote from a 2001 guardian review, lol how the times have changed:


https://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/dec/07/britains-empire-richard-gott-review

lmao grauniad as gently caress

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

https://twitter.com/janinegibson/status/859873524005163008
https://twitter.com/janinegibson/status/859873995679780870

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Jose posted:

we needed a bernie and got corbyn

bernie didn't even get as far as corbyn did

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

comrade corbyn will drive the sparrows from england

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

A unified China turned out pretty good in the long run.

Taiwan #1

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Peel posted:

just trying to think for five minutes about what a right-labourist brexit strategy would be is enough to lose hope in them

centre-left parties have been declining all over the western world. the democrats were a hollow shell and then trump broke the shell. the parti socialiste were a footnote in the election to replace their own incumbent president. SYRIZA got in because PASOK collapsed. another plastic smiler might stem the bleed a little but they wouldn't be saving labour

oh yeah syriza, the guys that let valve's chief videogame hat theorist run the economy. how's that working out for greece lol

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

If they had done what he said it might've turned out alright. Syriza failed because they wouldn't fulfill their own mandate.

its weird how the obviously impossible promises they made before the election ended up being impossible to fulfill on. couldnt have seen that one coming

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

get that OUT of my face posted:

syriza was headed towards leaving the euro until they met with germany and their creditors. something hosed up must have been said because immediately after that meeting they said they wanted to stay

merkel called their bluff. switch back to the drachma and half the country is eating grass clippings within the week

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

extremely wise marx boy: the eu should just let greece have a mulligan and write off all its debt, that would definitely not set an unsustainable precedent for other eurozone members and would be extremely popular with core eu voters

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

lmao jeremy corbyn is going to be labour leader until he dies and until that time there will never be a non-tory PM

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Jose posted:

The 2 most popular newspapers in the UK have a combined circulation of 3 million people and they're both really right wing. All the right wing papers have a circulation of about 5.6 million. Not including the evening standard/metro which are free papers and have about 2.5 million readers since they're available on public transport. For comparison the guardian has a circulation of 150k. The daily mail supported the nazi's before WW2 and the sun is owned by murdoch.

The press in the UK are so bad that fake news never really happened here because the papers lie so much

weird how conservatism is really popular with people who still read newspapers in this the year of our lord two thousand and seventeen

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Jose posted:

It's absolutely a sign the plp have done some damage though constantly saying he's unelectable and can't win

"it's not that corbyn's incompetent, it's that people recognize he's incompetent" is defs one of the funnier takes from the momentum people, as if this damp rag of a man could have snuck into the PMs office if only labour mp's had pretended he wasn't a complete dunce. sure he's an idiot who went whole hog on brexit but surely with the vastly powerful political machine that is modern labour he could totally bumble into power

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

logikv9 posted:

restore the power of the monarchy

Charles I Did Nothing Wrong

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

https://twitter.com/kyleworton/status/862298923045728256

tag yourself, I'm the (((israeli lobby)))

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Karl Barks posted:

ya that's what i thought. so why don't the right leaning labor people just join the lib dems?

first past the post. if the lib dems grow at labour's expense then the left vote is split and conservatives win pretty much everywhere. this happened in canada for a decade after 2006; the left-wing ndp gained strength at the expense of the ruling centre-left liberals as a result of a corruption scandal and it resulted in a decade of Conservative darkness because our tories could get an ironclad majority out of ~40% of the vote. you think britain is hosed now, imagine how right wing the tories could get away with being if they only needed two of every five votes to form a stable government.

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Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

first-past-the-post is basically electoral AIDS but countries with FPTP will never get rid of it because the ruling party is always the beneficiary

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