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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > TV IV > American Gods: "You're a fucking asshole, Dead Wife!"

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

KilGrey posted:

I found the ending to the episode a bit jarring too but I really enjoyed the episode. Ian McShane is amazing, I expected that, but I'm really pleased with Mad Sweeney. I loved the barroom brawl.

I can only imagine how this is to people who haven't read the book. You kind of just have to have faith and go along for the ride.

That's me. Here was my first impression after seeing it at an advance screening:

Steve Yun posted:

Attended an advance screening of American Gods.

Note: I am a big fan of Neil Gaiman's Sandman, and a huge fan of Bryan Fuller's Hannibal.

It's beautiful, it's fun and it's well acted. But... something about the premiere feels disjointed. I'm told that there's a lot of Shadow Moon inner monologue in the book, and it's not in the show. Maybe it needed that to keep a continuous narrative going from scene to scene. I dunno, but it's good enough that I want to see if it finds its footing. I was a little skeptical about Hannibal at first because their version of Will Graham came across a little gimmicky, and that show ended up being amazing

# ¿ May 1, 2017 06:15

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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 17:01

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404notfound posted:

One more thing I liked: In the viking prologue, once the fighting starts, you can see the arm holding the sword breaking the letterboxed frame. Fun little touch.

This was extra surprising during the screening because it was a projection and I forgot that it was letterboxed in the first place

# ¿ May 1, 2017 06:19

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I was going nuts trying to remember who Shadow Moon's inmate friend was, and just realized it's the orderly from Hannibal who was a serial killer fan

# ¿ May 1, 2017 09:14

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a kitten posted:

Is it really synthetic when there seemed to be an actual frog in the drat thing?

They appeared to be meeting in virtual reality.

# ¿ May 1, 2017 16:10

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showbiz_liz posted:

The thing that took me from 'this will probably be good' to 'I cannot loving wait for this' was when they announced that Brian Reitzell would be doing the soundtrack. He also did the soundtrack for Hannibal and that was one of the things that made the show for me.

I don't really care about Reitzell's original music (it's not bad it's just serviceable) but the man has amazing tarantino-like powers of picking the perfect songs off a shelf for a scene. Every classical song he picked out for Hannibal felt like an essay of characterization, communicated in the language of music the way you or I would write in English.

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 20:41 on May 1, 2017

# ¿ May 1, 2017 20:39

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Cojawfee posted:

I find it hard to believe that a "huge percentage" of the population has never heard of the meanings behind the days of the week. I've never read the books, I didn't learn anything about this show beforehand and I never looked up who plays any of the characters and I got it as soon as he said it was his day.

http://www.newsweek.com/how-ignorant-are-americans-66053

# ¿ May 1, 2017 22:04

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That's a fantastic take

# ¿ May 1, 2017 22:23

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Cojawfee posted:

It's not even an obscure fact. It's one of the first things listed on the Wikipedia page for any of the days of the week.

Look at this nerd who thinks the average person would look up the definition of Wednesday on Wikipedia for some reason

# ¿ May 2, 2017 00:25

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Cojawfee posted:

Sorry if you guys couldn't figure it out. Like I said, I've never read the books, and I knew what he meant. I don't know if it's some big book spoiler, I'm just mentioning things I've noticed from watching the show.

I figured it out, but that's because I spent time reading mythology books in elementary school and read Gaiman's Sandman.

Other people will not know, because not everyone read Sandman nor mythology books nor do they look up the Wikipedia article for Wednesday.

It's a narrow mind that expects everyone else to know all the same things and have the same experiences as oneself.

# ¿ May 2, 2017 00:45

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Escape Addict posted:

Some subtext I thought was really great was when Technical Boy's children beat and lynch a black man because it symbolizes how loving racist the faceless assholes on the Internet have become.

Also, their outfits seemed heavily inspired by A Clockwork Orange. The children of the digital age are anonymous racist sociopaths. Checks out.

What are the Children described as in the book?

# ¿ May 2, 2017 02:48

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Arist posted:

Just opened my copy to that page out of curiosity and they're not, really.

I appreciate what the tv show did and the racial imagery, but I'm also playing with the idea of a bunch of anonymous fists and feet hitting Shadow by coming into frame and then popping out of frame

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 03:04 on May 2, 2017

# ¿ May 2, 2017 03:01

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So if someone were to make a second thread should it be the book reader thread or the tv only thread

# ¿ May 2, 2017 07:25

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BOOK READER THREAD HERE:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3819132

# ¿ May 2, 2017 08:26

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Public service announcement: Starz/Amazon has apparently posted the next episode

# ¿ May 7, 2017 11:30

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Aardark posted:

While we're waiting for the new episode, let's post more openings in that style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFYFh8w4758

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyu_MdKBXic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhGMGjs3DSs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w3QadfoWcU

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 11:45 on May 7, 2017

# ¿ May 7, 2017 11:40

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Aardark posted:

Umm ok... Is it on Piratebay yet??

edit: also, what does "apparently" mean in this context?

As in it's been reported in the other thread but I'm out of town so I can't check it out right now

# ¿ May 7, 2017 11:41

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Zaphod42 posted:

Another goon mentioned before, it feels like they're making her more predatory and less "potential victim" in order to demonstrate that the old gods are just as power hungry and ruthless as the new gods, and I agree.

In the book the John she's with is more pushy, where in the show he's really uncertain about the whole thing, he just wants to hang out and cuddle and she pushes him into it. That wouldn't work if she was a prostitute.

On top of that, in some interview Fuller said he wanted the imagery of Bilquis to be more empowering for women, which is why Bilquis gets on top, is not a prostitute, and preys on a guy who completely worships her joyfully even before she asks him to.

# ¿ May 9, 2017 20:02

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Desperado Bones posted:

Guys, guys, please, don't fight. There will be enough dicks for everyone.

Please put that into spoiler tags

# ¿ May 10, 2017 00:28

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Rejoice! Fans of American Gods have a new annoying fan nick name of their own

https://twitter.com/hashtag/godsquad?lang=en

# ¿ May 10, 2017 00:34

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Rocksicles posted:

Haven't read the books. Do we have a consensus on Wednesday being Odin? or are people on the fence?

I already knew about Czernobog, my ex was Serbian.

Czernobog refers to him by the name Wotan in the episode, which was one of the spellings of Odin's name. I think that's confirmation enough.

# ¿ May 10, 2017 07:04

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etalian posted:

No space dicks in the most recent episode

# ¿ May 15, 2017 03:20

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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:

American Gods: Big ol' gay dicks and multi-Jesus.

American Gods: Penisia and Jesusia

# ¿ May 15, 2017 05:48

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Also at the very least it let us see fire cum internally. If the cumshot happened externally it would have lost a lot of its meaning.

I would like to commemorate the fact that I'll never be able to run for public office now that I've typed that out.

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 20:00 on May 15, 2017

# ¿ May 15, 2017 19:57

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GonSmithe posted:

Just to reiterate I wasn't kidding here, they actually did this.

Can confirm from Q&A I attended, although they said it was black paint (maybe as shorthand)

# ¿ May 15, 2017 21:01

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Now that the episode has aired everywhere I can share some stuff from the Q&A I attended which I already posted in the other thread. Fuller, Green and Gaiman were on the panel along with Mousa Kraish (the Jinn) and Omid Abthai (Salim). It was hosted by GLAAD for what should be obvious reasons now.

Mousa, who plays the Jinn, watched gay porn and called up gay friends to ask them about accurately portraying gay intercourse. When it came time to shoot, the director told Mousa and Omid how to act and Mousa got to use his new knowledge to correct the director on sexual positions.

The dong was originally going to be 11 inches. The production designer started with that, not conceiving that anyone would want it to be a different size.

Mousa and Omid knew each other before this show because middle eastern actors basically all know each other. They were extremely grateful they got to play middle eastern men who weren't terrorists or sidekicks.

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 22:11 on May 15, 2017

# ¿ May 15, 2017 22:08

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etalian posted:

mission accomplished!

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/05/15/history-made-american-gods-features-tvs-most-explicit-gay-sex-scene-between-muslims/

# ¿ May 16, 2017 13:21

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There's a White Penis, a Black Penis, a Mexican Penis, an Asian Penis...

# ¿ May 16, 2017 19:22

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For rules' sake, let's stick to the usual rule of using spoiler tags until it airs on tv in the Eastern US time zone (9pm eastern/6pm pacific). I'm not sure if we know an exact time when it gets posted on Amazon but we know the exact time it gets aired on broadcast; that lets people know an exact time to avoid this thread for spoilers

# ¿ May 21, 2017 18:27

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Hey, spoiler tags

# ¿ May 22, 2017 00:53

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Cojawfee posted:

How can you miss that a guy with a dog steps into the road, the car stops in front of the dog (so it clearly didn't die) and then Anubis stands up? He was the dog. He shows up because he just found where Laura was.

Umm

the_american_dream posted:

Yea sorry i think i said it before but i tend to watch this when my newborn wakes up around 4 am.

Cut the_american_dream some slack here, I'm sure being woken up every 4 hours is pretty difficult and trying to squeeze in any tv show enjoyment is a luxury

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 17:03 on May 22, 2017

# ¿ May 22, 2017 17:01

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Rocksicles posted:

Scientific ~~dick calculator~~cockulator

# ¿ May 23, 2017 09:40

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What would be unfilmable about Sandman? The changes in scenario and budgetary limitations haven't been a huge roadblock for Dr Who.

The main issue would be the narrative weirdness of a main character who barely shows up in 5% of most stories. It's a lot to ask of new viewers, but maybe after building up a name with American Gods, future audiences will be more willing to give Sandman a gamble.

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 08:13 on May 27, 2017

# ¿ May 27, 2017 08:09

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etalian posted:

New people come to America over the Bering Strait with their mammoth god.

After suffering much hardship they eventually are forced to ditch the mammoth god for the indian's buffalo god and the guy who didn't want to change allegiance gets owned.

The whole point was how in the universe of American Gods, the gods aren't invincible and depend on followers to stay alive.

One very humanizing thing about Nunnyunnini in this segment was that it knew it would die, but allowed itself to be lost and forgotten in order to ensure that its followers survived. The gods are not all leeching assholes.

# ¿ May 30, 2017 22:57

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Desperado Bones posted:

Was the shaman/priestess Nunnyunnini's sacrifice to the other god? something like "I give you this very important person in exchange of you protecting and feeding my followers".

More or less. Maybe Nunnyunnini and the Buffalo had a pre-arrangement to sacrifice her. Or maybe Nunnyunnini and the Buffalo didn't talk, but Nunnyunnini just knew that if the shaman cold-called and offered herself as a sacrifice, the Buffalo would take in her followers. Who knows.

# ¿ May 30, 2017 23:25

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Yak of Wrath posted:

Fuller should have done it Wonderfalls style;

Coming to America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaxvQQIF4KQ

This is kind of amazing that even in Wonderfalls, Bryan Fuller was pushing the idea that gods won't accept piddly gifts and demanded human sacrifice.

# ¿ May 30, 2017 23:27

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I dont know if it was intended, but one of the benefits of animation is that the stone coloring of their skin makes their race harder to pin down.

# ¿ May 31, 2017 18:24

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Conservative white Jesus going to be strange.... when they announced Jeremy Davies I assumed that would mean he was going to be a liberal white hippie Jesus

# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 05:41

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Nothing will ever be as bad as the stuffed tiger in Hannibal season 3

# ¿ Jun 12, 2017 20:14

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Mameluke posted:

edit: As much as I love Hannibal, I wish Bryan Fuller et al. had used that one Manhunter tiger scene shot from the Manhunter/Red Dragon moviefight thread. I'm on mobile right now but the OP commented on one shot that really emphasized how jealous Francis was of the tiger's virility.

It's a fantastic shot, but I think the TV series wanted to achieve something different. In the film, Francis is struggling with self-loathing (demonstrated by him being jealous of both the vet and the tiger) while simultaneously experiencing love.

In the TV show I think they wanted his budding romance with Reba to be more positive at first (TV Francis jizzes his pants when TV Reba touches TV tiger's tooth, giving him hope that he doesn't have to be ashamed of his mouth anymore) and then yanked away from him later.

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jun 12, 2017

# ¿ Jun 12, 2017 20:32

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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 17:01

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Tigren posted:

What the gently caress TV show are you talking about? Is it American Gods?

Tigren posted:

Is there not a Hannibal thread?

Sometimes if you follow a discussion thread, there are these things called tangents, when an off-topic discussion occurs. It might be a frightening concept for some readers because it looks like the discussion they were following has disappeared from in front of their very eyes. Readers should not be concerned as tangents are usually harmless and temporary, and within a couple posts the original discussion will return. This concept may be particularly difficult to grasp for those who are still developing object permanence. Think of it like the commercial break that happens several times during your television programming; much like your original television program returning after a minute of commercials, discussion of the main topic will be back soon after a couple posts, no need to worry.

# ¿ Jun 12, 2017 21:38

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