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Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Having emigrated to Australia, it’s been great to discover that nothing transfers between HOTS regions, and there’s no way to even request it. That’s just awesome.

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Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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SirSamVimes posted:

I play on the US servers from NZ anyway.

I'd be okay with that too, but my progress was all EU.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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I'm slightly astounded that the response to 'Hey, is there any way to get at least my paid unlocks, if not my progression (thought I'd prefer both) switched regions?' was 'Why don't you just continue to play in EU?' - From Australia.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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I wish there was a mid-ground between the two - I love the depth and counterplay of DOTA, but there's mechanical things about HOTS (Team level, Talents over Items, some of the mapping, game length) that I really enjoy.

(It's not League.)

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Perceiving Big Dick Damage Prime Troll And All Round Cool Guy Medivh as a Support is just a horrific misconception, from Blizzard downward.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Tracer Recall not disjointing feels like it's really just pushed her into the dumpster. Recall a Triple Tap, just take it all at the end anyway. :(

E: Aware this may be old news, only trying her again for the first time in ages.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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I'm rapidly growing to like Fenix, but focussing on Inhibiting Energy at 4. If you reliably land Q and play mostly in Phase Bomb stance, you slow everything you come near, which then empowers Plasma Cutter further at 7 and Photonic Weaponry at 16.

You're basically only switching back to Repeater Cannon when Q is on cooldown or you're in a sustained 1v1 to DPS someone down, but gaining slows everywhere, I can't figure out why people are taking Target Aquired, which 10% +MS but requires you to be at a very unsafe Fenix range to do.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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lucifirius posted:

I said this in the Discord the other day, but if this hero is from Overwatch I'm quitting.

But I think it's safe to say it's a Warcraft hero, and my money is on Whitemane.

I literally find WoW characters so generically named that I could not tell you which person that is.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Plot Twist: The character called Whitemane ISN'T one of the Yiff-NotWerewolves.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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That Valeera wasn't 'Generic Rogue' and doesn't have an equivalent 'Generic <WoW Class>' Hero for each class, and that you don't have a skin option that is 'Dressed like your WOW character from the Armoury' continually surprises me. It's such an obvious way to make money from cross-pollinating from WoW players that I'm actually alarmed they haven't done it.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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fuck the fuck off.

SirSamVimes posted:

Having a character that it's impossible to identify by visuals is a great idea.

Because that's totally a problem the HOTS team have cared about historically. Dreadlord Kerri- wait Jaina... the Novazon skin....

(Not that I don't agree incidentally, just that HOTS clearly does not care about Heroes being visually distinct. That horse has long since bolted.)

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Gobbeldygook posted:

Yes they do care. Very few skins alter the profile of the hero. Those that do (e.g. vampire Kerrigan) are banned in competitive play.

So you're saying there's a working model already in place for this, right?

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Gimmick characters are gimmicky.

I mean, I love completing my Medivh Q at around 3 minutes, then clowning for the entire game, so Godspeed Murky picks!

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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fuck the fuck off.
Kel'thuzad feels super fun in his kit, you get to pull all sort of shenanigans, but he really doesn't feel like you get enough for the amount of work you put in. Every time I play him I'm basically saying 'I could have achieved this damage with much less effort on some other Assassin', and his lack of escape or defensive options means Butcher etc. can often blow you up nearly unavoidably.

I mean, having not-Sunstrike is nice, though.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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fuck the fuck off.

BrianBoitano posted:

I'd take Yrel in that matchup. Yrel zones instead of clearing. If Sonya spears in, start whaling using quick Qs and Es. If she starts spinning or gets close to a globe, D + W. I could be wrong, but I think Yrel wins since her AA sustain doesn't require channeling.


Escaping Butcher when you have no "escape" but you have a root or delayed stun: right before impact, drop it at your feet. Now walk away.

Works for zombie wall too, but the timing is different so you don't get trapped with them. Congrats on never fearing Butcher or Varian ever again!

Sure, if you can slam him with Frost Nova on pre-impact each time you're golden. But fluff the timing even slightly (so they impact first) or be on cooldown because it's part of your offensive combo, and you're probably going to die anyway. I'm not saying you're hard countered or anything, just that it isn't 'Congrats on never fearing them ever again' either.

He just seems too much work when I could faceroll Kael or w/e.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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fuck the fuck off.

No Wave posted:

KTZ is gratuitously hard, like Samuro and Illidan. Nothing wrong with having a few heroes that are challenging for their own sake and pretty good even if they're rarely 100% optimal. (illidan is mostly bad tho)

I... I.... Wait What?

(Although as a dedicated Medivh whore, I agree with the rest of this line, it's good to have varying complexities to reward people who want to 'learn' them.)

E: Although, mentioning Medivh & Illidan (And Chen), if someone at Blizz could stop making it so that clicking a portal overlaid with a hero prioritises the loving hero, that'd be great, tyvm. Dying because Medivh stands there merrily autoattacking those two and refusing to go in the loving portal I just made gets old.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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I'd probably like him a hell of a lot more if Death & Decay wasn't a projectile AOE whilst Frost Nova and Shadow Fissure aren't. That's definitely one of his weird awkward things.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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How did they make concept art that good, then gently caress up the real model so badly?

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Wondering about Glacial Spike timing; Whether people are typically getting to first tier reward for KTZ before or after L7.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Uuuuuugh fighting Varian when you don't have the disables is annoying. He's so binary; In matchups he's favourable he just curbstomps people, and in matchups where he isn't he's worthless.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Medvidh pre-Q completion is the most stressful thing in the game, and post it's the funniest, clownshoes rollercoaster of not-giving-a-gently caress you can get in HOTS?

Having some Illidan charge you, so you Portal away, he Hunts back to you so you go back through the same Portal then turn into a Birb and taunt spray

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Trying to put my finger on where Tracer is; With so little burst, and so much dive going on... she doesn't seem great right now.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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I'm really partial to the whole of Fenix' kit, even both Ults. It's somehow just so nicely put together that it feels lovely to play.

E: Runner up award goes to using Kelthuzad ult as a DOTA Sunstrike, and hitting people out of LOS as they try to juke or w/e.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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More likely Sombra will be done as a Legendary skin for Valla, I would have thought?

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Is there much sadder than randoming into Hammer and they have Cassia right now. One Fend and welp you're dead.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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There any ANZAC groups playing? All of my usuals seem to have vanished.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Bought Maiev, on a whim.

Do not even get her.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Sure; I mean, that was a very flippant post. Having played most of the cast at one time or another, I just don't see what she's even meant to do theoretically.

If you use E to go in, you're an incredibly squishy Assassin in melee range, and D is not going to keep you alive very long OR has a low enough cooldown to be reusable. Are you supposed to try to make W break, or use it as a way to force them to stay close so you can melee? Fan of Knives has a tiny range (and a weird arc) too.

It just all seems very... janky. Like, I don't understand right now what she's for.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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I feel like Lucio is crazy and just below the radar; fine, he’s limited for burst heal, but he heals passively so well and just doesn’t loving DIE.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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fuck the fuck off.

kaesarsosei posted:

I see Medivh is free this week. He's classified as a Specialist but really looks like a Support. What am I supposed to be doing as Medivh?

Out damaging all the Assassins by finishing the Q pre-4m.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Flippantpost: Even as someone who has levelled Medivh to 10 (TWICE!) I still can't see why you'd want Ley Line Seal. Polymorph Bomb would be a good button (as an instant hard disable with no cast time or projectile) without spreading. With, it's a teamfight decider that is much less hassle to use.

Then, I'm that greedy gently caress who hardly ever Portals for someone else (what'll be the point, they won't use it and then *I* might need it.)

Medivh is just The Best.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Grei Skuring posted:

Completely nullifying an entire dive team if you find yourself being rushed while unprepared. Frankly, I cannot imagine anyone not finding a use for it. Poly just seems pretty unreliable to me.

I suppose it's down to how reliably you can do the whole GTFO Alt-W / E / Peace Out / Z?

Like I said, flippantpost, it wasn't meant with any tone.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Tassadar Ticklebeam plus Wall might be the most fun thing in the game. Watching Assassins realise 'Oh poo poo I'm losing' mid-way through you standing and manfighting them is deeply funny.

E: And getting to L20 for the Wall upgrade makes me positively giddy. Why the sweet bejesus would anyone pick Archon?

Shockeh fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Oct 15, 2018

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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I don't mind him power level, but the game really, really is falling into a pit of 'hyper-mobility or suck' and it makes bothering to have good positioning/movement less valuable, which I can't stand.
When you have a love for traditional casters with combos like KTZ, this is a fairly sad place to be.

(Though gently caress Cromie forever, who is basically that only without any of the aiming or timing required.)

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Fair response really; I'm probably biased specifically over KTZ, as I love playing him so much but given he doesn't even get Ice Block, you just get to die if you miss a Chain.

(I'd argue all 3 of those make up for their lack of mobility by having 'reliability' baked into their nukes.)

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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fuck the fuck off.
Harder...

...Kerrigan.

Harder....

...

...Kerrigan.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Paging Dr. Freud, cleanup on aisle three - That you guys read that post in that tone, and not in the intended one of incredulity at describing Kerrigan as ‘hard’ says more about you than it does about me. :v:

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Cuntellectual posted:

Why does Probius exist?

This, but Kerrigan.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Schneider Inside Her posted:

Kerrigan is hell good though? Huge stun combo, solid waveclear and insane durability if you pick the right time to jump in and start hurting people to death.

I’ve been messing around with the Ultralisk ult and you can pretty much stunlock a mage from 100-0 with the Ultralisk stun.

It was a light hearted jab at her being loving insane still, and in that camp of 'Hope you're playing a drafting mode to deal with her, or are just plain QM Lucky, because if you drew wrong, gg from the loading screen.'

E: In a game like HOTS, anyone having 100-0 combos, especially ones like Ravage initiated where missing is exceedingly unlikely isn't... great? KTZ can, but he's limited by being literally defenseless if he fucks any single component. Kerrigan still brings good AA, 'spare' Ravage charges and a Stasis.

EE: Casual Alarak question - Love his damage, love his combo; How do you stop people just... walking away, afterward?

Shockeh fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Oct 26, 2018

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Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

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Regardless of rationale, ‘restrict my choices (indeed, restrict everyone’s choices!) because I am bad at decision making’ is poor form, given some people then end up restricted who don’t have that issue.

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