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Sapozhnik posted:quote this post every time systemd continues to own while some idiot on the internet gets bent out of shape because competent developers don't want to add a bunch of special cases to save said idiot from specific instances of his own incompetence
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Gazpacho posted:init/rc was still good, and everyone whose main complaint is "babby doesn't wanna read shell scripts Breakfast All Day posted:horse poo poo shovelers upset over the invention of the engine
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sorry u don't know poo poo from handicrafts, not my problem
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Gazpacho posted:raymond chen does the same thing that lennart does in his "airtight hatchway" commentaries and nobody blasts him for it afaik uh, no
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RISCy Business posted:systemd is bad
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Gazpacho posted:raymond chen does the same thing that lennart does in his "airtight hatchway" commentaries and nobody blasts him for it afaik raymond chen's response would have been along the lines of "this behavior is unfortunate, but isn't a security vulnerability on its own because you have to be root to install the malformed file in the first place", which is quite different from "this behavior is completely fine"
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Systemd is good and Lennart is just alphaing you nerds to oblivion
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Breakfast All Day posted:horse poo poo shovelers upset over the invention of the engine maybe we could compromise and invent some kind of engine that runs on horse poo poo?
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:maybe we could compromise and invent some kind of engine that runs on horse poo poo? they already did
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If you got death threats because you made a init system, you wouldn't put up with whiney nerd poo poo heads either.
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ratbert90 posted:If you got death threats because you made a init system, you wouldn't put up with whiney nerd poo poo heads either. this
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Jul 12, 2017 00:38
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the d stands for "don't use systemd"
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genesis does what systemdon't
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RISCy Business posted:the d stands for "don't use systemd" it actually stands for "dope"
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yeah, as in "you're a dope for using it."
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Doc Block posted:yeah, as in "you're a dope for using it." 
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Doc Block posted:yeah, as in "you're a dope for using it." 
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Doc Block posted:yeah, as in "you're a dope for using it."
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lookit this fukken dope
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ratbert90 posted:If you got death threats because you made a init system, you wouldn't put up with whiney nerd poo poo heads either. death threats for that? lol, dude must be abrasive as hell
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Max Facetime posted:death threats for that? lol, dude must be abrasive as hell you never seen a 4chan zerg rush before?
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also the dude is insanely abrasive for heading one of the most controversial projects
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he's much nicer/more professional now than before seem to remember some douchness/kay sievers-esqueness when he attended conferences when systemd was in its infancy, but i haven't seen any of that kind in years. must had a lot of training responding to the kind of comments you see in this thread dont get why people continue slamming poettering for closing that """0day""" bug, the behaviour seems completely reasonable
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Doc Block posted:yeah, as in "you're a dope for using it." same thing the d in linux stands for, actually
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Tankakern posted:he's much nicer/more professional now than before tbf it is actually pretty dumb because you're supposed to react to invalid input by stopping and raising an error. silently ignoring bad input and continuing anyway is something a php programmer would do. https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/6300 so this is getting fixed in upstream. well hey, nobody is perfect.
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Tankakern posted:dont get why people continue slamming poettering for closing that """0day""" bug, the behaviour seems completely reasonable "hey, this persion [accidentally | intentionally] put in an invalid username. should we not run that task and raise an error? nope, let's just run it as root!" isn't reasonable behavior.
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akadajet posted:same thing the d in linux stands for, actually actually, Linux has no d, much like yourself.
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it is kind of frustrating that neither smf nor systemd is portable
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I agree, all operating systems should be identical except for the name (so that we still have some way to tell them apart)
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it is kind of frustrating that neither smf nor systemd is portable init systems typically aren't
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hackbunny posted:init systems typically aren't no reason they couldn't be, though smf is non-portable because the authors had a hardon for "doors," a Solaris-only ipc method. it could have been written without
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:smf is non-portable because the authors had a hardon for "doors," a Solaris-only ipc method.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it is kind of frustrating that neither smf nor systemd is portable You ( DON'T ) want Daemon Tools.
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and launchd is written around Mach messaging, an IPC and process activation mechanism only found on superior Mach-based operating systems
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mods, i think there's something wrong wtih the thread title. maybe look into it?
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Gazpacho posted:mods, i think there's something wrong wtih the thread title. maybe look into it? looks perfect to me
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