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adaz posted:He has had his best years under Andy. Yards, completion percentage, touchdown, low interceptions, etc all way above what they were in San fran. Andy Reid's offense is a tad bit different in focus than Jim Harbaugh's. Just a tad. Okay, maybe more than just a tad.
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Grittybeard posted:KC or possibly New Orleans (who were rumored to like him if KC didn't trade up) are the perfect places for Mahomes to maybe turn into what he could be. Which is exciting! Watson is going to start, but all he has to do is be better than Brock Osweiler/Tom Savage/Ryan Mallet/Brian Hoyer. And that's a really low bar. He has excellent options when back to pass, and Lamar Miller can definitely carry the offense. Plus, he has a great defense to bail him out.
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a neat cape posted:I'm not sure about his speed in covering the whole field. And that 5'10 listing is a bit generous So we basically re-drafted Brent Grimes? I'm ok with that.
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Coldforge posted:Andy Reid's offense is a tad bit different in focus than Jim Harbaugh's. Just a tad. Because Andy retools his offense to fit his players. As Durandal1707 pointed out, he has had a lot of different QBs with a whole lot of different styles and they've all been good to above average. That's coaching, nobody just lucks into that. I mean, don't get me wrong, I want Favre 2.0 so bad - neglecting the fact that it's extremely unlikely - so i'm really talking myself into this. BUT STILL.
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Coldforge posted:Andy Reid's offense is a tad bit different in focus than Jim Harbaugh's. Just a tad. I would also not weigh too heavily what Smith did in San Fran prior to Harbaugh's arrival. That place was a dumpster fire.
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I think a lot of people were down on Mahomes because of the air raid but unlike most air raid college QBs Mahomes was given the option of calling plays and audibling. I didn't know he was that smart either, that voice and hair can be deceiving. 4.0 student that apparently can read defenses quickly. That was Reid's #1 reason for drafting him, not the arm. The arm is just gravy. I'm optimistic. Oh I suppose the footwork being abysmal didn't help but that's coachable and makes him more accurate but he was already accurate with the bad footwork soooo
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adaz posted:Because Andy retools his offense to fit his players. As Durandal1707 pointed out, he has had a lot of different QBs with a whole lot of different styles and they've all been good to above average. That's coaching, nobody just lucks into that. Partially, I guess, maybe; but in a completely irrelevant way to Alex Smith being "good" or not. He was perfectly good in Jim Harbaugh's offense, he was just asked to do a lot less with his arm.
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kiimo posted:29 picks is a lot of interceptions in college but then again 93 touchdowns is kind of awe inspiring. Jared Goff - 96 TDs/30 ints
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One year with Jeff Fisher is not enough to bury the NFL career of Goff. He does look like baby Bambi when he tries to move though.
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kiimo posted:I think a lot of people were down on Mahomes because of the air raid but unlike most air raid college QBs Mahomes was given the option of calling plays and audibling. Mahomes was never your typical air raid quarterback just because of the arm, most of those guys have noodly arms because you don't need a big arm to make that offense work. Well and historically the programs who went full air raid weren't the schools picking up the best recruits, I guess that's changing a little bit recently. I don't know, I like that he has some chops reading defenses (from the shotgun) pre snap, I like that he appears to go through progressions now and then. As a Chiefs fan I particularly like that he checks deep first and when he scrambles he keeps his eyes down field instead of just bugging out. Other than the putrid, awful footwork what worries me the most is just how much he trusts his arm. Trusting that you can make a throw is good up to a point, but I don't know if he'll ever learn that there are throws that just cannot be made. The nightmare scenario is he turns into a more accurate Kyle Boller.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:I would also not weigh too heavily what Smith did in San Fran prior to Harbaugh's arrival. That place was a dumpster fire. Pretty much. If you look at those stats, it's fairly obvious that the real divide is between pre-2011 and post-2011 as opposed to Smith on the 49ers and Smith on the Chiefs.
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I'm really interested to see where Mack Hollins is in like three years. Dude seems really feast or famine.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Alex Smith was already decent!  Kolb might of turned out alright if he didn't get his brains scrambled.
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 This guy is in great shape. Low body fat, great muscle definition, I'm jealous. Then you see that this guy is 6'7, 289 pounds. 
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kiimo posted:I think a lot of people were down on Mahomes because of the air raid but unlike most air raid college QBs Mahomes was given the option of calling plays and audibling. I didn't know he was that smart either, that voice and hair can be deceiving. 4.0 student that apparently can read defenses quickly. That was Reid's #1 reason for drafting him, not the arm. The arm is just gravy. I'm optimistic. I saw a lot of first read only plays from Mahomes. Stare down the hot route then tuck and run when it doesn't work. He still goes through progressions but he's not super accomplished at it yet, I don't think.
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I can buy that. In my ideal world he sits for two full seasons. But if Alex Smith throws for 15 touchdowns again, the heat will be on in 2018.
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Metapod posted:I believe mahomes will be the second coming of favre it's going to own
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kiimo posted:I can buy that. In my ideal world he sits for two full seasons.
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weird Asian candy posted:Why are those pullup bars like 13 feet in the air? If you wanna do pull ups, you better have the legs to start. Get mad ups.
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LiquidFriend posted:You're not going to sit a guy (for more than one year) that you moved up into the top 10 for unless Alex Smith pulls a Favre and starts playing out of his mind. We both know that's not going to happen. So you can't see a possible timeline with Reid starting Alex Smith in 2018 after he wins 12 games again? I mean, he'd have to rework his contract. I can see it. But I could also see Alex getting hurt for three games, Mahomes throwing as far and as hard as he can and somehow still not be able to overthrow Tyreek Hill and Alex never getting that spot back.
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Alex Smith represents $17m cap savings with $3.6m in dead money after 2017. It's like 90% this is his last year with the Chiefs unless Mahomes faceplants and is nowhere near ready after redshirting.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Alex Smith was already decent!
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Alex Smith sucks so it wouldn't surprise me to see him lose his job this year during the season, even if its unlikely
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Hey Ehud and Crazy and whoever else, you might be interested in this thing from rockmnation about Charles Harris. Just a writeup with some quotes from Harris about how he got into football, he might be Pinkel's last ridiculous find. Terry Beckner Jr might end up as his last recruit to get drafted high if he puts things together and stops getting hurt, but he was a 5 star guy. Harris didn't even have a rivals ranking.
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Nodoze posted:Alex Smith sucks so it wouldn't surprise me to see him lose his job this year during the season, even if its unlikely Alex Smith is 43-21 in KC, made the playoffs 3/4 years and won the first playoff game for KC since 1993. It will take injury for him to get supplanted before 2018.
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kiimo posted:So you can't see a possible timeline with Reid starting Alex Smith in 2018 after he wins 12 games again? I mean, he'd have to rework his contract. I can see it.
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kiimo posted:Alex Smith is 43-21 in KC, made the playoffs 3/4 years and won the first playoff game for KC since 1993. It will take injury for him to get supplanted before 2018. I'm seeing shades of Drew Brees in 2005
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a neat cape posted:I'm seeing shades of Drew Brees in 2005 I'm gonna go ahead and guess Alex isn't going to go on and become one of the most prolific passers in NFL history. I'd almost like to be wrong just to see what this would look like.
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Grittybeard posted:I'm gonna go ahead and guess Alex isn't going to go on and become one of the most prolific passers in NFL history. A team with 2 kelces, two hills, and 6 o linemen who are actually bulldozer transformers
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Grittybeard posted:I'm gonna go ahead and guess Alex isn't going to go on and become one of the most prolific passers in NFL history. I meant an injury in week 17 against Denver
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CannonFodder posted:The league needs more funslingers. They own Favre owns MAHONES is gonna own. It's cool that Big Ben eventually grew up into a real quarterback, but holy poo poo was it more fun when he would just run around shrugging off 300lb dudes until Hine Ward was open 30 yards behind the defense on 3rd and 40 after taking 2 consecutive sacks
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Mahomes sounds like a muppet, specifically Cookie Monster and I like it. I will never get behind that hair though.
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took a look at some draft grades, looks like the failing literally every single person who writes about the draft is unfairly going after the bears again. fake news.
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