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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
Chomsky is just a slightly different brand of American who wants to make everything about America.

Hopefully everyone will actually vote Labour instead of registering and then not being arsed to turn up.

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Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
I wonder what percentage think that registering to vote is the vote itself.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax
ISIS takes credit for every strike anyone makes these days, big or small.

Appears to me, a Muslim terrorist suffering from some existential crisis and who believes The West is the enemy probably tweeted with some ISIS guy at some point (so ISIS takes credit) but was a lone wolf more or less when he stabbed people or played irl GTA.

TomViolence posted:

hence the need for a narrative they can milk

Haaa! It was a false flag organized... by the click hungry media!

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

A reference to to all those christian religious crusades I suppose. Anyone know if that's like the common lingo for islamic nutters, do they see a white person and go 'look at that crusader!' like a raciest in the uk would point out a brown person and say friend of the family or whatever?

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

jBrereton posted:

Chomsky is just a slightly different brand of American who wants to make everything about America.

Hopefully everyone will actually vote Labour instead of registering and then not being arsed to turn up.

or voting tory.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Pochoclo posted:

Those children listening to pop songs were going to storm Jerusalem any second

Well, considering IS's own extensive use of child soldiers, it's not exactly a concept they'd be unfamiliar with...

To clarify, I'm poking at IS for being poo poo in a myriad of exciting ways, not saying I seriously believe a concert for teenage girls was a military recruitment drive.

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Ligur posted:

Haaa! It was a false flag organized... by the click hungry media!

gently caress off Ligur.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
The media turn terrorist murder into a spectacle of pornography because it's profitable to their aims and objectives, and in this case it will support a narrative they have been building on for decades.

Everyone can look forward to reading all about how banning encryption/immigrunts/muslims/free school meals would have stopped this massacre, and how if you disagree you are a terrorist lover.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

spectralent posted:

or voting tory.
That also, would be good to avoid. Can't really imagine much of the underpaid and under-served youth turning out to vote for them after one of the worst decades in a very long time for the prospects, though.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Ariana wills it

Let us retake the holy land

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

TomViolence posted:

gently caress off Ligur.

That was a frigging joke, which should be quite obvious and clear to a sane internet user, so what is your problem today?

Or did lil Tom just want to say "gently caress off" :allears:

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Apr 8, 2012

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Oberleutnant posted:

Get out you piece of poo poo.

stick your fingers in your ears harder, fuckwit

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

jBrereton posted:

Chomsky is just a slightly different brand of American who wants to make everything about America.

Hopefully everyone will actually vote Labour instead of registering and then not being arsed to turn up.
In a rather cold analysis registration ended yesterday so the couldn't be arsed to vote nazis and torys didn't have time to emotionally respond.

haakman
May 5, 2011

Seaside Loafer posted:

A reference to to all those christian religious crusades I suppose. Anyone know if that's like the common lingo for islamic nutters, do they see a white person and go 'look at that crusader!' like a raciest in the uk would point out a brown person and say friend of the family or whatever?

It's a common phrase in certain JihadI groups. OBL used it.

Jrbg
May 20, 2014

Vultures everywhere. I echo thread sentiments that today is a '95% of what's said shouldn't be' kind of day.

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead

Guavanaut posted:

Petrol in South Africa is still 40p cheaper than the UK, and that includes nationalized third party insurance for every driver as a percentage of the fuel price. You can do fun things when you make your own fuel.
That's a meaningless comparison because the price of fuel in this country is primarily determined by the rate at which it's taxed. Wikipedia says that fuel duty in SA is $1.46/gallon, whereas UK fuel duty works out to around $3/gallon.

More generally, Fischer-Tropsch chemistry is inherently inefficient and is rarely cost-competitive with just pumping oil out of the ground. There's a reason most countries only adopt it as their primary means of sourcing petrol if they've had their access to liquid fossil fuel shut off by war or sanctions.

LemonDrizzle fucked around with this message at 13:55 on May 23, 2017

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction
Anyone acting like a oval office today is going on a long forum break so please keep your hot racist takes to yourselves for a bit.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
Manchester Police have conducted a controlled explosion and carried out two more arrests.

In a brief statement it said:

Police have executed warrants, one in Whalley Range, and one in Fallowfield, where a controlled explosion took place, as part of the investigation into last night’s horrific attack at the Manchester arena.

mediadave
Sep 8, 2011

Do we know how this compares to previous elections? There's always a rush of registration before the deadline - are there actually more registered this year?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Fans posted:

Anyone acting like a oval office today is going on a long forum break so please keep your hot racist takes to yourselves for a bit.

been a few so far

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

Seaside Loafer posted:

A reference to to all those christian religious crusades I suppose. Anyone know if that's like the common lingo for islamic nutters, do they see a white person and go 'look at that crusader!' like a raciest in the uk would point out a brown person and say friend of the family or whatever?

It sorta is, evil Christians have crusaded in the Middle-East in the 11th century (and later) and again in Iraq much more recently. So they are in a constant war with Islam and it's right and just to combat them where ever.

(This narrative always forgets that Islam actually invaded Europe first and much earlier, and kept at it until much later, not counting US "oil invasions", by first conquering Iberia and repeatedly attacking Eastern Europe until the 19th century or so.)

That said as Islamism is not very coherent or unified, the reasons to fight the West are truly manifold and diverse...

I mean they fight with each other even more.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

buckets of buckets posted:

I'll take 'places that allow mass immigration' for 500

There's no correlation between the deadliness of those attacks and the countries' net migration rates, though? Seriously, Germany has one of the highest net rates in that graphic, while France has one of the lowest.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Jippa posted:

Manchester Police have conducted a controlled explosion and carried out two more arrests.

In a brief statement it said:

Police have executed warrants, one in Whalley Range, and one in Fallowfield, where a controlled explosion took place, as part of the investigation into last night’s horrific attack at the Manchester arena.

The fact that they're doing this so soon after the attack but failed to stop the attack itself means to me that they're just taking out anyone they've had under surveillance just in case they were involved. I reckon these will be unrelated innocents or have minor terrorism related charges against them.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

Fans posted:

Anyone acting like a oval office today is going on a long forum break so please keep your hot racist takes to yourselves for a bit.

Just to make sure I won't gently caress up and break rules, what have been hot racist takes up to now, of any?

croc suit
Nov 13, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Fans posted:

Anyone acting like a oval office today is going on a long forum break so please keep your hot racist takes to yourselves for a bit.

:goonsay:

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

just asking questions here

croc suit
Nov 13, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
God forbid white people notice who's killing them

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Oh, hey, thought I recognised you.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

LemonDrizzle posted:

That's a meaningless comparison because the price of fuel in this country is primarily determined by the rate at which it's taxed. Wikipedia says that fuel duty in SA is $1.46/gallon, whereas UK fuel duty works out to around $3/gallon.

More generally, Fischer-Tropsch chemistry is inherently inefficient and is generally not cost-competitive with just pumping oil out of the ground. There's a reason most countries only adopt it as their primary means of sourcing petrol if they've had their access to liquid fossil fuel shut off by war or sanctions.
The Sasol slurry process is far improved on the FT synthesis used during WWII, and South Africa managed to export competitively on the world stage between '04 and the oil price crash in 2014. China are looking at even further process improvements.
Yeah, it's still less efficient than dealing with petrostates if you don't count all the second order effects of dealing with petrostates, but as part of a program of using nuclear and renewables for energy and lowered oil reliance it would be doable.

That $1.46 also doesn't include the levy for the Road Accident Fund, the state third-party insurer, which is a good and cool idea.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

croc suit posted:

God forbid white people notice who's killing them

So tempting, but no. gently caress off you racist oval office.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

croc suit posted:

God forbid white people notice who's killing them

Get the gently caress out.

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Darth Walrus posted:

There's no correlation between the deadliness of those attacks and the countries' net migration rates, though? Seriously, Germany has one of the highest net rates in that graphic, while France has one of the lowest.

My point was more to do with Poland, Hungary etc. not being on the map. Belgium's on there, despite not having committed any heinous colonial acts for quite some time. The common factor being immigration policy.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Seaside Loafer posted:

A reference to to all those christian religious crusades I suppose. Anyone know if that's like the common lingo for islamic nutters, do they see a white person and go 'look at that crusader!' like a raciest in the uk would point out a brown person and say friend of the family or whatever?

It seems to be common language for people from culturally Christian countries, even when it makes no loving sense that a drat 8 year old just going to watch one of her favourite singers is a Crusader.

But ISIS can get hosed. They claim credit when I stub my toe when I don't look where I'm walking. They have nothing to do with this horrible attack, they just want to claim it as theirs to further stoke up the culture war they think exists.

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

croc suit posted:

God forbid white people notice who's killing them

whoever it is, can they hurry up

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Darth Walrus posted:

There's no correlation between the deadliness of those attacks and the countries' net migration rates, though? Seriously, Germany has one of the highest net rates in that graphic, while France has one of the lowest.

Also, as other goons have noted: if it was on that map (although it was left off for some reason), the 2011 Norway attacks would be the second-largest, and they were undertaken by a nativist, anti-immigrant Norwegian.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

buckets of buckets posted:

My point was more to do with Poland, Hungary etc. not being on the map. Belgium's on there, despite not having committed any heinous colonial acts for quite some time. The common factor being immigration policy.

It's a very small map, and Denmark's on there despite having a similar net migration rate to Hungary.

Your theory ain't exactly holding up.

croc suit
Nov 13, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Yvonmukluk posted:

Also, as other goons have noted: if it was on that map (although it was left off for some reason), the 2011 Norway attacks would be the second-largest, and they were undertaken by a nativist, anti-immigrant Norwegian.

Internal problem vs imported problem

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

loving thread immigrants, they come over here, they poo poo up the discourse

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

TomViolence posted:

loving thread immigrants, they come over here, they poo poo up the discourse

Taking thread making GBS threads away from honest, hardworking pissflaps

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Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


namesake posted:

The fact that they're doing this so soon after the attack but failed to stop the attack itself means to me that they're just taking out anyone they've had under surveillance just in case they were involved. I reckon these will be unrelated innocents or have minor terrorism related charges against them.

Yeah, they usually round up everybody and the usual suspect, but just do it visibly to make people feel calm. If you read closely in the coming week or two, you'll see (very tiny) stories that everybody arrested today was released without charge.

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