namesake posted:

Because it's probably part of a wider media launch and so will be being shared on facebook and twitter rather than directing people to YouTube.

John McDonnell posted:

Dear Kokoro Wish,

Theresa May has just handed in her notice at the Palace. While Jeremy and the rest of the Labour movement will use this campaign to speak with and listen to voters, she will continue to hide away from any real contact with ordinary people.

The Tories will work on plans to benefit the privileged few, while we build a manifesto for a better, fairer Britain where no one is held back.

And, of course, they'll be sitting with a handful of super-rich donors, convincing them to sign hefty cheques to fund their campaign.

We're the party for the many, not the few, and with all of us working together - there's nothing we can't achieve.

Thank you.

John McDonnell
Shadow Chancellor

Darth Walrus posted:

The other three candidates in the leadership contest supported austerity policies and welfare cuts that almost drove my brother to suicide. This isn't about ideological purity, this is about basic survival.

Again, gently caress off.

jBrereton posted:

Maybe a more reflective headcase would consider that someone largely liked by people like them was not representative of the aspirations of the country as a whole.

Darth Walrus posted:

Again, you can see something coming and still be upset about it because people you care about are very likely to die.

Look, dude, just take a break from this thread for a while. This may be a funny little game to you, but the rest of us are having to deal with the fact that local government is going to dramatically reduce its efforts to keep people we care about alive, and you're wittering on about how it was clearly a mistake for the opposition party to pick a leader who actually showed some interest in keeping them from dying. That's just being an rear end in a top hat.

Darth Walrus posted:

Dude. Stop.

MonsieurChoc posted:

You know, the whole "Corbynista" thing is directly the PLP's fault, when you think about it. They didn't realize that people wanted genuine change from failing liberal sameness, and then when people flocked to the first genuine leftist choice they fought it tooth and nail instead of trying to deal with it. Of course the people who back Corbyn are super defensive about it! If Corbyn is ousted, the PLP have made sure everyone knows it's going to be back to politics as usual as soon as they can arrange it. The PLP has created this situation in what can only be described as an incredible act of Political Seppuku.

The UK seems pretty doomed.

Another Person posted:

Burnham was one of the two leadership candidates pledging the renationalisation of the rail. It was a bit of an opportunist move on his part I will admit, because it was after people realised how popular the policy was with party members. I doubt he would keep McDonnell on as chancellor if he took leadership over though. McDonnell, while popular with the members, does not have a lot of love from other MPs and party officials. Who knows though, Burnham has proven to be malleable and willing to listen to what people actually want so it could happen if this theoretical situation went forwards.

The Dark Project posted:

"Hello Ladbrokes, do you have a refund policy for the terminally stupid who shouldn't be allowed to bet, let alone own any kind of electronic devices?"

Alchenar posted:

Uh oh

ukle posted:

If Clive Lewis wins his seat (as is probably likely given the results of the locals in his area all stayed comfortably Labour) I kind of expect the PLP to get behind him as a challenger if Corbyn wont go. They wont risk another Blandy McBland, and will go with someone they know will win against Corbyn with the membership.

jabby posted:

If Clive Lewis stands with the backing of 'moderate' MPs I'd vote against him. Primarily because I think he'd simply be used as a lever to get Corbyn out and then promptly be forced out himself by the same MPs. Anyone who thinks they would be happy with a 'unity candidate' rather than full control of the party back is deluding themselves. Getting rid of 'one member, one vote' is top of their to-do list.

Also it's probably best for Corbyn to say he'll stay on despite defeat. It helps prevent it becoming a question put to him endlessly on the campaign trail, and helps take the wind out of the sails of anyone who thinks a crushing Labour defeat is the best way to get rid of him (like half the PLP).

TheRat posted:

Irony Be My Shield posted:

If Corbyn does lose I just hope his successor can arrive as a peacemaker rather than fighting for either side of the war within the Labour Party. Corbyn has certainly driven some voters away but he's also attracted new ones and provided a set of overwhelmingly popular and good policies. A leader with less baggage and a better public image could really capitalise on at least some of those policies and hopefully bring people back while also retaining the new voters.