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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
i'm glad blair is promising to get his hands dirty and help Theresa May get re-elected because shes what this country needs

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
we're so hosed lol

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
blair is only getting involved again because the US looks like it might invade Syria and he wants part of that. His lust for death in the middle east knows no bounds

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Namtab posted:

I feel that if blairite centrism won elections then Jeremy Corbyn would not be leader of the Labour party

its ok the PLP have decided Yvette cooper will be their saviour after corbyn loses trhis election

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

learnincurve posted:

My boomer dad still bangs on and on about how bananas were still rationed in the 1950s like it's justification for hanging on to his enormous 4 bedroom house where only three rooms get used, instead of moving to a smaller one and freeing it up for a family to buy. He also holds very strong opinions about imagrants coming over here and taking up all the houses that should be used for good honest Brits.

He's Australian.

have you considered patricide?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Ewan posted:

That isn't a warcrime. Call me a pedant, but when you're calling someone a "war criminal" it's pretty important to actually mean war criminal.

You maybe mean he led the UK into an illegal war but that is not the same thing as a warcrime. War crimes refer to atrocities committed during a state of war, i.e. those that go against the Geneva convention. An "invasion" that is in contravention of the UN Charter may be illegal under international law, but that's not the same thing as a war crime. That's why UK will always say Russia's "illegal annexation of Crimea", not say Russia "committed a war crime".

this is the worst pedantry ever posted in one of these threads

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

MikeCrotch posted:

I know people who pretty much think that anything outside of the M25 is savage undifferentiated wilderness, so this doesn't surprise me in the least


We're not the ones that have a serial cat killer

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Oberleutnant posted:

i really like big macs

theres an awful lot wrong with this post

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/joshbythesea/st...-bacon-sandwich

https://twitter.com/youngvulgarian/...-bacon-sandwich

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

LemonDrizzle posted:

screw those filthy eurowogs we're taking our money and going home in a huff

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/34754...ory-government/

lol article 50 wasn't invoked that long ago and they're already talking this

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
charles not being king would be cool and good

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
i'm going to have to phone the council to find out where to vote because apparently there isn't anywhere i can stick my postcode to find out

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
They don't and I only registered to vote when the early election was called since I moved not that long ago so I'm not sure I got one. Or i threw it out because I get an obscene amount of poo poo through my letterbox from local takeaways

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Pissflaps posted:

Hopefully it won't come to that but it has to be a backstop option, surely?

its going to come to that the way things are going currently

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
So despite having had quite a few leaflets for Councillors to vote for since I moved that arrived before the general election was called there are apparently no local elections for me to vote in today

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Have you considered not working for the aristrocracy?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Party Boat posted:

That seems weird given this year is a year off for Newcastle council elections and the only election in North Tyneside today was the mayoral one.

I have no idea why i'm getting them but i've had leaflets from most parties since moving.

Maybe I should read them instead of tossing them in the bin

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I've received a letter from a debt collection agency about outstanding british gas payment. I paid british gas' final bill after changing suppliers am I going to get spammed by these people if i reply?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
After phoning british gas it appears the person who I talked to to pay the final bill didn't tell me it had changed based on the meter readings my new supplier had given them

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol america

https://twitter.com/leyawn/status/860199590599020544

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

ukle posted:

Currently Tories have gained 138 seats and the first Metro Mayor (Bristol etc), Labour has lost 121 and UKIP have lost every seat so far. LD's are also lost 20 odd seats.

Expect Labour to go into melt down.

seems like the perfect time for a leadership challenge imo

it would be nice if the press could start ignoring UKIP since they basically don't exist any more though

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

forkboy84 posted:

At this point 3 Welsh Labour councillors will be judged as "could have been worse".

Obviously there are problems much deeper than the leader, but if these results are repeated in June then we're going to have another leadership election and the Tories will get on with loving everyone poorer than them.

Yvette cooper is definitely going to get people voting labour

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

big scary monsters posted:

Apropos of nothing but my idle twitter browsing:




this explains a lot

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
whats even the point if you can't get 30% turnout

https://twitter.com/LGiU/status/860...-scotland-wales

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

give these people a darwin award

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

jabby posted:

To be fair it's getting increasingly more difficult to argue for Labour in local government given that having a Labour council means you will be targeted for harsher budget cuts.

The average voter doesn't know thats the case but they do know their council is completely poo poo and failing to do basic stuff.

I still haven't received my bins from the council

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Spuckuk posted:

It needs asking again, who would you replace him with?

The problems Labour are having run far longer and deeper than Corbyn.

look at chart C lol

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

jBrereton posted:

Luciana Berger, why not?


shes just given birth

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
remember when they were contemplating trying to leave the party and keep the name labour lol

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

learnincurve posted:

:lol:

Turns out Tories won Derbyshire by repeatedly promising to remove the Matlock parking charges. They may be evil but at least they were competent enough to find out what all the people with very little in their lives (aka old people) were bitching most about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bm9GPx5FMA

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
i think the tories might be extremely popular

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
i think brexit might be extremely popular

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Ewan posted:

You missed one, possibly the most important. Their policies might be good, but it's no good if they're so incompetent they can't implement them without loving up. That is the perception most people have - and frankly you can't say it's not true because there is no evidence (equally you can't say it is true either).

its really good they chose the extremely competent Owen Smith as the most recent corbyn challenger

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Ewan posted:

Other people also being incompetent does not suddenly make Corbyn & co competent.

everyone else would have been making these gently caress ups because labour in general are a shambles

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

LemonDrizzle posted:

I think you are a bit confused about why he's likely to win. He's likely to win because he won the largest share of the vote in the first round, and because second round polls had him winning >60% of the vote against every possible challenger, including the left wing candidate Mélenchon.

its cool how he's going to be able to do gently caress all when he wins

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

WMain00 posted:

I think the reality is Labour is going to split, forming into a Socialist Workers Party led by Corbyn and a centralist New Labour party. I wouldn't be surprised if Corbyn didn't resign after the General Election and this occurred instead.

the people who leave the party in this scenario are not going to be the ones keeping the name labour

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Pissflaps posted:

Corbyn won't resign after the election. He has an army of idiots with excuses at the ready. Labour is hosed.

labour has been hosed since the financial crash. Corbyn is a symptom of it

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
does someone have those word clouds which had economy as the main word by a mile for remainers and immigration for leavers?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/08/tim-farron-margaret-thatcher-poster-childhood-bedroom-itv-interview

quote:

The Liberal Democrat leader, Tim Farron, has said he had a poster of Margaret Thatcher above his bed as a schoolboy

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

dispatch_async posted:

YouGov have tried to break down some of the flows:



i'm in the lib dem to other parties bit

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