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kustomkarkommando posted:A lot of by to let mortgage providers specifically prohibit borrowers from renting their property to people on housing benefit exactly how far do people have to go before they start legally discriminating? Fergus Wilson not being dead/in prison is an affront to the rule of law jBrereton posted:No, I'm saying that people on HB are more or less like any other tenant, but typically with less stuff to put up as collateral/less chance of successfully getting the money you are owed if it ends up in small claims court. I can understand why banks won't lend to landlords in that instance, and hence why landlords are reluctant to take them on as a result. and you think this should be legal?
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knox_harrington posted:
I'll ignore the "Lol the loving economist" and point out your article says that under tory government, tory councils build more houses, then blames this on Labour hence "lol the loving economist". Here's some evidence, and an editorial that never fails to utterly disagree with it.
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May 1, 2017 12:56
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jBrereton posted:For now, probably, yeah. No, that's not how people's decision making works. Rational choices are not a given reason for people making themselves homeless. I agree with your point about the government expenses needing to go up. A six month guarantee from the government is a flat 6x increase in funds needing to be put aside, but no increase in monthly expenses. This remains a negligible amount, and not one that has any impact on national economy. e; aside to which, I just thought, "no dss" is very different from "no guarantor", and banning no dss does not mean I think that the government is now the guarantor. I don't really see the point asking for no guarantee of payment, it'd be an inconsistent and weird step towards the final goal of no privately rented accomodation. Spangly A fucked around with this message at 14:39 on May 1, 2017 |
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Also you are literally arguing in favour of discriminating against those who are disabled and unable to work I'm pretty drat sure "no dss" is not really an acceptable legal requirement for this reason, we just have a government that fundamentally will not and will never stick up for the working poor.
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May 1, 2017 14:31
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george orwell didn't like jews either but he really didn't like bulgarians can't believe the right's lack of concern for the poor slated peoples of bulgaria
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knox_harrington posted:Not supporting Assad, the tories are selling turkey planes you dumb gently caress
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May 1, 2017 20:10
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knox_harrington posted:Come on, there's no need to be like that. there really is though you poo poo your pants at seeing a flag, assuming it means something it pretty clearly doesn't, and claim this is Labour Bad. But actually selling weapons to the regimes you care so much about wouldn't bother you? What, are you going to vote green or something? knox_harrington posted:I would vote for Labour if they weren't led by total idiots. Please don't confuse "really crap at leading a political party" with bad policies. Labour have great policies. They're just led by people really bad at stage-managing national level politics. The party that are really good at this stuff are literal child rapists with a 25 year record of worldwide failure behind their economy.
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May 1, 2017 20:33
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knox_harrington posted:Your personal attack kinda makes you the pantshitter. Oh wow a loving tone argument knox_harrington posted:. There is no way Labour can make an impact on the election without appealing to the Guardian reading Islington sector. I'm a left leaning voter but listening to McDonnell I am basically his enemy - there is no-one for me to vote for in this election. You claim to be a public services worker, McDonnell offers you more than any leader of any political party in years that you can't see this isn't tone deaf, it's me having no idea how to get through to you other than "jesus christ you are frustratingly determined to gently caress yourselves and coworkers over"
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my god I'd feel conflicted by a police strike everyone over 60 would immediately vote the bnp on their platform of kill strikers and also criminals and mostly foreigners
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May 1, 2017 23:25
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Oberleutnant posted:My maternal grandmother was Irish so I'm sorted if I want to leave, but I think I'm going to stick it out because I loving love being poor and angry 24/7. the alternative of going to portugal to figure out how a european socialist government maintains a votebase is p attractive
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May 4, 2017 14:38
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Jose posted:I've received a letter from a debt collection agency about outstanding british gas payment. I paid british gas' final bill after changing suppliers am I going to get spammed by these people if i reply? never reply, debt collection agencies are loving atrocious at their paperwork and if it's not in order you don't owe them poo poo. Don't help the bastards. Don't contact them if you're paid up either, that's their business for buying poo poo debts.
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May 4, 2017 16:37
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jBrereton posted:Plenty of them are fairweather ethnonationalists who would hold a different position if there was more than a joke opposition, imo. that's nice but your argument isn't being supported by reality
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jBrereton posted:If you think of the "common sense" people as basically politically ambivalent, this is the mistake
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AP posted:it’s really the fault of the media bad article, bad understanding of reality, bad country
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May 5, 2017 21:32
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Hoops posted:They're actually people who don't realise that it is not a competition to find the most left-wing MP, with the highest scoring socialist to be the person appointed leader of a large and complicated organisation. It's not a competition to find the most left-wing MP, but anyone who isn't a socialist has no loving business running a nation state half the thread seems ready to adopt long-bailley based on one QT
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May 6, 2017 14:15
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LemonDrizzle posted:Social liberals introduced old age pensions, universal unemployment and health insurance, and large-scale council house building. They also wrote the blueprint for the postwar welfare state and the economic theories that held sway during the golden years of postwar social democracy. Those seem like fairly solid left wing contributions to me. Those are all solid left policies yup and when they aren't supporting them, they aren't "left" anymore.
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May 6, 2017 15:25
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jabby posted:The guy is a weathercock, which as we all know is a short step from just being a cock. I don't really disagree but I do appreciate his work on the hillsborough inquiry and also him wanting to make MPs lying a prison offence
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May 6, 2017 16:31
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if Burnham promised McDonnell chancellor and kept the investment bank/nationalise the trains he'd probably win e; Labour not GE, he's not strong and stable enough Spangly A fucked around with this message at 17:01 on May 6, 2017 |
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May 6, 2017 16:59
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Oberleutnant posted:Lol. I'd clean forgotten all about this. there are plus sides to speaking in an entirely forgettable forced manner
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May 6, 2017 17:17
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Alchenar posted:That's straight up not true given they were happy with those policies when Ed Miliband proposed them. That's straight up not true, they resorted to tricking him into badly eating a sandwich because he's a communist jew
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May 6, 2017 18:00
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They literally played the "his dad's a loving COMMUNIST" card in multiple papers and the BBC had terrible pop celeb shits berate him for taxing millionaires Ed wasn't Corbyn but he, like everyone since Blair, was undermined and savaged.
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May 6, 2017 18:04
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tony blair should've been kicked off wigan pier sometime around summer 99, maybe then he doesn't cost the party 3 million votes
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Alchenar posted:
The last time canterbury was held by a non-tory was an Ulster Loyalist independent back after ww1 you're absolutely right and it absolutely doesn't matter in the SE
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May 9, 2017 12:41
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hakimashou posted:What is so wrong about fox hunts anyway? what is actually wrong with you you sick genocide apologist gently caress, get torn apart by dogs yourself and spare us your posting
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May 9, 2017 21:59
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The Insect Court posted:If "The left" means Corbynistas, then no, they don't want to win elections. The typical Corbynista excuse is that Corbyn's leadership isn't about winning elections it's about yes corbyn reshapes the party, then someone not already press-destroyed has a crack with a socialist party behind them and we gulag you
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Tution worked so well before, Labour are reviving the lib dem pledge. Or not. Or something else entirely. I've not seen any interesting new metaphors about an actual left wing manifesto being written so I hope everyone's ready to hear about the manifesto being Foot 2.0 for a month
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May 10, 2017 15:46
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hakimashou posted:Isn't there a danger that if corbyn fails miserably in the election, it will discredit this ambitious manifesto? haha you're already michael footing and I doubt you even know who he is without the help of wikipedia democracy doesn't credit or discredit poo poo. It's a bad system and economics isn't based on gutfeel.
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May 10, 2017 21:40
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MrL_JaKiri posted:lol laffer curve a hypothetical of what you being wrong might look like exists ergo you are proven wrong and also from the 70s
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May 11, 2017 01:00
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Alchenar posted:Your plan is to replace a functioning market with a state monopoly. This will go wrong for the reason it always goes wrong. youre talking poo poo and its clear youre talking poo poo because anyone whos ever checked the data knows "markets" are worse than state functions
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May 13, 2017 13:52
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Regarde Aduck posted:Don't they prop up our economy? massively. kustomkarkommando posted:Its just pushing through a more aggressive financial transaction tax at a time when you are actively trying to hold onto financial services, which a large chunk of economy requires, who are actively being poached by near neighbours with access to a larger market might not be great. Alternatively they'll do what they always do; gently caress off for six months and come crawling back when they can't get good cocaine anymore e; having said that this isn't a problem in France
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May 16, 2017 16:29
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Julio Cruz posted:lol if you don't think you can get good coke in Europe depends where. Some of the banks *did* move to Switzerland, and they *did* come crawling back citing difficulty holding employees for "lifestyle reasons". Like I say in Paris or Berlin this is a non-issue but bankers tend to be tax greedy by definition. If they pick Ireland/Switzerland again, the cycle will repeat.
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May 16, 2017 16:33
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Bape Culture posted:
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May 18, 2017 13:24
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Not So Fast posted:E: This is also basically a post-manifesto bounce, once the IRA spin stories and the Tory manifesto takes effect, we'll probably see the polls dip down again. The IRA spin stories are out and momentum are handling them fairly well door to door (because they're bullshit) The papers are going to reheat some things but Corbyn doesn't actually have any dirt to hide; they're firing blanks
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May 21, 2017 11:56
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Ewan posted:or Abbott saying that "every defeat of the British state is a victory for all of us”. Are those bad things? The only way that's a bad thing to say is if you possess a warped and dangerous view of history
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knox_harrington posted:It's not a great thing for someone attempting to lead the british state to have said. Yeah, it is. Because most people don't like to watch the nasty parts of history get repeated over by clowncar scumbags like the tories. Ewan posted:
Not trying to dismantle your argument but you've made two deeply connected points without perhaps realising the relationship they have. there is a deliberate and malicious attempt to frame current british politics as with us v against us, and this can only end in violence. You don't get good debates from tabloids doxxing undesirables. Spangly A fucked around with this message at 13:51 on May 21, 2017 |
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May 21, 2017 13:48
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Ewan posted:It is of course entirely acceptable. But this - in general - this is not the position people take when defending Corbyn. They instead try to distort it as an honourable man simply doing the difficult thing and talking to terrorists to try to find peace, missing out the point that he had with them a shared vision of how that peace should be achieved (united Ireland) and was also trying to achieve that aim. you're now arguing that it's bad the public are misinformed. I agree. We should make efforts to make sure the public understand why it was good and appropriate to be against the occupation as it was in the 70s.
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sassassin posted:Mentalists are always going to find excuses to blow something up. There is no inherent difference between you and a radicalised person. The evidence does not agree, at all, that people who commit acts of violence are any more likely to have mental illnesses or personality disorders than the general pop. The mentally ill are less likely.
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The DPRK posted:Pretty disappointed by this to be honest. Fascists march through towns to scare immigrants, argue for their own strength, and to incite violence. If left alone, what usually follows in their wake is a fuckton of emboldened and racist locals, from my experience. However, also from my experience, those locals are a shitload more likely to stay shouting from their windows if they're watching their "side" get its poo poo pushed in. It boils down to something fairly simple. When the EDL and the other scum go marching, they intend to commit violent acts. I've never seen black bloc *start* anything. I've seen them deal with fash trying to run around and find locals of the wrong skin colour. We'll all stop punching fash once their disgusting agenda and, more specifically, their travelling tour of violence is made criminal. But be very clear, they are there to start violence, usually against unprepared locals, and they like attacking women and children. The job of antifa is to keep them busy and isolated.
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:If they were thumb people couldn't you just step on them if you curbstomp you don't get invited back shrike82 posted:stdh.txt lol events that were publically recorded = stdh ok
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shrike82 posted:I guess I find it funny that antifa are boasting about their thuggery when a bunch of people including got killed in a terrorist blast. it's real funny that the right use virtue signalling as an insult when I can't think of a better example of using an atrocity to score points and look good, without ever wanting to do anything about the causes, than shite like this
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