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Will Jon Jones ever fight in the UFC again?
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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
UFC May: GSP's Mass, Huffing rear end Gas.

Last month's thread is here. We were thoroughly entertained by some serious brokebrain posting last month where one poster in particular decided the hill he would die on was "Chael Sonnen was totally kicking the poo poo out of Jon Jones until Jones got lucky". Work Friend Keven gave us some excellent ideas about how he would run the best MMA promotion from the best of all timelines and all sorts of goons participated in what is possibly the dumbest conversation ever which was started with speculation from Snowman_McK MM could beat Anderson Silva. The month was rounded out with confirmation that all goons consider jumping knee KOs to be among the finest ways for a fight to end.


April was a solid month of fights.

Starting us off was UFC 210 from Buffalo, New York on the 8th of the month. The rematch between Daniel Cormier and Anthony Johnson for the Light Heavyweight championship was essentially a carbon copy of their first fight, with the middle five minutes taken out. Cormier showed how phenomenal his ability to soak punishment is after taking a shin kick from Johnson flush on the nose, weathering the storm and then getting Johnson down in the second for the rear-naked choke victory. The most stunning think about that fight was the retirement of Johnson immediately after, with the #2 ranked Light Heavyweight announcing he had a major career change lined up that he couldn't talk about. UFC 210 also brought us Chris Weidman playing the "I'm not touching the ground, I'm not touching the ground" with Dutch-Armenian kickboxing savant Gegard Mousasi, who kneed some sense into him. After what could generously be described as a clusterfuck in the octagon, the referee stopped the fight after Weidman confirmed he didn't know what month it was. As the strike was determined to be legal, Weidman was handed his third TKO loss in a row, a stunning fall from being 13-0 and the defending Middleweight champion.

Other fun fights from 210 were Charles Oliveira getting a rear-naked choke victory over Will Brooks, and Gregor Gillespie being told by someone "poo poo we only have a few minutes of the Fight Pass prelims left, better wind this poo poo up!" and then knocking Andrew Holbrook out in 21 seconds. Another highlight from UFC 210 was Dana White teeing off on some of Floyd Mayweather's entourage, telling them to go gently caress themselves among other things, after they were talking to the media about the proposed Mayweather-MacGregor fight.

The next week brought us UFC on Fox: Johnson vs. Reis. Demetrious Johnson defended his Flyweight championship against Wilson Reis. Reis, a decorated, never-submitted BJJ expert, was thoroughly schooled by Johnson, who beat him down, styled all over him and then armbarred him with 11 seconds left in the third. This fight saw Johnson equal Anderson Silva's all-time title defense record at ten. Robert Whittaker surprised a lot of people with a first-round TKO of Ronaldo Souza, and is now the highest-ranked Australian UFC fighter, claiming the #3 position in the Middleweight rankings.

A fight not to miss from this card was the Tim Elliott-Louis Smolka bout, with the two putting on an incredibly good grappling show and claiming Fight of the Night. Making his UFC debut, Quebecois Bantamweight prospect Tom Duquesnoy scored a TKO victory with elbows and punches over Patrick Williams early in the second, and Rose Namajunas derailed the "Karate Hottie" train with a rear-naked choke victory over Michelle Waterson.

The final event of the month was UFC Fight Night: Swanson vs. Lobov, which saw the unranked Artem Lobov taking on the 4th-ranked Cub Swanson, who was fresh off his Fight of the Year performance against Doo Ho Choi in December. This fight, contrary to all expectations, wasn't dreadful. Lobov was outgunned for the majority of it but showed some moments of form, while Swanson seemed to respect his opponent more than a lot of people felt he deserved. The bout took Fight of the Night honours, which wasn't as much of an indictment on the rest of the card as it seems. Other excellent fights on this card included Brandon Moreno from TUF choking out Dustin Ortiz, and Mike Perry taking Jake Ellenberger's soul with a standing elbow, then celebrating in front of the lifeless body of his opponent by breakdancing.

http://i.imgur.com/WZDHhHp.mp4
http://i.imgur.com/iKmfo27.mp4

UFC events in May

There are only two events scheduled for May. The 13th of the month brings us UFC 211, which will see Stipe Miocic attempt to defend his Heavyweight championship against Junior dos Santos. Miocic is aiming to equal the Heavyweight defense record which currently stands at the lofty number of two. The two last fought in December 2014, with dos Santos winning a close decision, the bout earning both men a $50,000 bonus for Fight of the Night. The second last fight on the card takes us from the heaviest competitors in the promotion to the lightest, with Jéssica Andrade looking to dethrone Joanna Jędrzejczyk and take the latter's Women's Strawweight championship. The rest of the card is very stacked, with Demian Maia taking on Jorge Masvidal at Welterweight, Frankie Edgar vs. Yair Rodríguez at Featherweight and Eddie Alvarez vs. Dustin Poirier at Lightweight headlining the FX preliminary card.

The month will end with UFC Fight Night: Gustafsson vs. Teixeira on the 28th, live from Stockholm, which is a somewhat less star studded card. Alexander Gustaffson is 2-3 in his last five, and Glover Teixeira was recently knocked out in 13 seconds by a retiree. The undercard features a Light Heavyweight fight between two real word salad competitors with Volkan Oezdemir taking on Misha Cirkunov.

UFC News

The vast majority of the news from this month is anything but. Speculation runs rampant with who the next opponent will be for Tyron Woodley (Nick Diaz? Conor MacGregor?) and Tony Ferguson (Conor? Nate Diaz?). Woodley confirmed he is in camp and aiming for a UFC 213 title defense at the marquee event of International Fight Week.



Your Current Champions

Men's Heavyweight Champion - Stipe Miocic (18-2)
Stipe Miocic won the Heavyweight title in May of 2016, stopping Fabricio Verdum in front of his countrymen in a single round. He backed this feat up with anotehr first-round stoppage of the most decorated Heavyweight of all time, Alistair Overeem, in Miocic's home town of Cleveland in September. It was considered that the winner of the fight between Werdum and Cain Velasquez at UFC 207, a rematch of the fight where Werdum took Velasquez' belt from him in 2015, would be Miocic's next opponent, but Velasquez was forced out of this bout with yet another leg injury. Miocic will defend his belt against Junior dos Santos at UFC 211 this month, where he will seek to avenge his Fight of the Night loss from late 2014.


Men's Light Heavyweight Champion - Daniel Cormier (20-1)
Daniel Cormier won the belt initiall in May of 2015, winning against the heavy-hitting Anthony Johnson by rear-nake choke in the third round. Cormier defended his belt against Alexander Gustaffson in October of 2015 in a split decision. A planned rematch against Jon Jones was scheduled for UFC 200, which was called off after Jones tested positive for banned substances. Cormier went on to fight Anderson Silva in a non-title bout on three days' notice. Cormier was slated to fight Anthony Johnson in a rematch for the belt in December, a match which did not took place due to Cormier suffering a groin adductor injury. The bout took place at UFC 210 in April, with Cormier defending the belt in under two rounds and Johnson riding off into the sunset with a surprise retirement.


Men's Middleweight Champion - Michael Bisping (37-7)
Bisping had a fairytale year in 2016, first of all beating the greatest MMA striker of all time Anderson Silva in front of his hometown crowd of Manchester in February. Then, on 17 days notice, he stepped up to fight Luke Rockhold for the Middleweight Championship in June at UFC 199. Bisping joked about not having the regular time to get his cardio ready, meaning he would have to knock Rockhold out in the first round, then against the expectations of everyone everwhere, including his own son, he did exactly that. He capped off his year with a successful defense against Dan Henderson, putting the ghosts of UFC 100 to rest. It had been widely considered that his next defense will be against Yoel Romero, a man Bisping considers to be "the biggest cheating motherfucker in the whole sport"1, however with the announcement in March of the return of GSP, the UFC are talking up the soft-spoken Canadian as Bisping's next defense.


Men's Welterweight Champion - Tyron Woodley (16-3-1)
Woodley was promised a title shot against the Welterweight champion 17 months before the fight took place. After Robbie Lawler put in Fight Of The Year performances against Rory MacDonald in July 2015 and Carlos Condit in January 2016, Woodley went into their fight in July of 2016 as a significant underdog. This meant nothing, with Lawler going down to strikes in the first round. Woodley defended his belt against Stephen "Wonderboy" Thompson, putting on an incredible fight that ended in a majority draw at UFC 205 in New York in November 2016. A rematch for this fight was held in March month at UFC 209, and it sucked out loud. Woodley has announced he is currently in camp aiming at a UFC 213 return, with no opponent announced.


Men's Lightweight Champion - Conor MacGregor (21-3)
After punching his way to the Featherweight Championship in December 2015, McGregor was slated to fight Rafael dos Anjos for the Lightweight Championship in March of 2015. With dos Anjos pulling out of this with a broken foot sustained in sparring, Nate Diaz took the fight on 9 days' notice, winning handily in the second round with a rear-naked choke against a gassed McGregor. A rematch of this fight was held in August 2016, with McGregor fighting with a much more conservative, patient style, taking the fight by majority decision. A "superfight" was scheduled for UFC 205 in November 2015, with McGregor taking on Lightweight champion Eddie Alvarez. This fight was one-sided with McGregor boxing Alvarez to a standstill in the second round, after taking the first round 10-8. McGregor would go on to have the Featherweight title stripped off him in December 2016, to make way for an Interim championship to be created. MacGregor's next opponent would have been the winner of Khabib Nurmagomedov vs. Tony Ferguson from UFC 209 in March, however due to Khabib being a poo poo oval office in general, that fight never took place. Conor is once again talking up a boxing match against Floyd Mayweather which I can't imagine giving less of a poo poo about.


Men's Featherweight Champion - Jose Aldo Jr. (26-2)
Aldo spent the better part of a decade being an unstoppable force at Featherweight; first with the WEC where he won the title in November 2009, then in the UFC after the former was absorbed by them. This run was derailed by Conor McGregor in December 2015, where Aldo was knocked into unconsciousness 13 seconds into the first round. An opportunity came Aldo's way in July of 2016, with an Interim Championship fight against Frankie Edgar at UFC 200 seeing Aldo regaining gold again. With McGregor being stripped of the Featherweight Championship before UFC 206, and Max Holloway winning the Interim title at that event, Aldo was promoted to Featherweight Champion. These belts are due to be unified at UFC 212 in early June.


Men's Interim Featherweight Champion - Max Holloway (17-3)
Holloway put together a 9-fight win streak, with several Performance of the Night bonuses, before answering the call to contend for the Interim Featherweight Championship at UFC 206 in December 2016. Taking out Anthony Pettis with a body kick and punches late in the third round, he has set himself up for a bout against Jose Aldo at UFC 212 in early June.


Men's Bantamweight Champion - Cody Garbrandt (11-0)
After amassing a professional record of 5-0 in the minor leagues, Garbrandt was able to parley this into a UFC contract in January 2015. He then went on to win 5 fights in a row in the UFC, including going from unranked at Bantamweight at the start of 2016 into championship contention at the end. He took on Dominick Cruz for the title at UFC 207 in late December, and in contrast to analysis from a variety of sources, took out Cruz in a unanimous decision. Garbrandt is scheduled to take on TJ Dillashaw at UFC 213 in July, capping off the current season of The Ultimate Fighter.


Men's Flyweight Champion - Demetrious Johnson (26-2-1)
After winning the Flyweight Championship in September 2012 in a split decision against Joseph Benevidez, Johnson has amassed a 9-fight streak against the best that the division has had to offer. He has been so dominant that the UFC held an entire Ultimate Figher tournament to find his next challenger. The culmination of this was that Tim Elliott came back out of the MMA wilderness to lose a competitive match against Johnson in early December 2016. Johnson easily defended his title against Wilson Reis in April, tying the all-time title defense record held by Anderson Silva.


Women's Featherweight Champion - Germaine de Randamie(7-3)
In order to answer a question a grand total of about seven people outside Brazil were asking, the UFC set up a fight between Holly Holm and Germaine de Randamie for UFC 208 in February of this year. With de Randamie winning in contentious fashion, and Holm unsuccessfully appealing the outcome, the new champion is probably going to defend it against Cristiane Justino Venâncio aka Cyborg at some point in time in the future. Assuming Cyborg can keep off the drugs, or that anyone cares.


Women's Bantamweight Champion - Amanda Nunes (14-4)
Nunes headlined UFC 200 in July of 2016, putting a vicious beating on Miesha Tate and securing a rear-nake choke victory in a little over three minutes. She backed this up with a brutal 48-second TKO victory against former Women's Bantamweight Champion and WMMA pioneer Rounda Rousey in late December 2016. Nunes is currently slated to take on Valentina Shevchenko in a rematch of their March 2016 fight, with no concrete date set.


Women's Strawweight Champion - Joanna Jędrzejczyk (13-0)
After winning the Women's Strawweight Championship against the one-dimensional Carla Esparza in March 2015, Jędrzejczyk has defended her title four times. Most recent of these was against her Polish countrywoman Karolina Kowalkiewicz at UFC 205 in November 2016. Jędrzejczyk will defend her belt against Jessica Andrade at UFC 211 this month.

Other poo poo

Thanks very much to LobsterMobster for putting together the awards thread for last year:

2016 Rowdy Ringsports MMA Awards - RESULTS THREAD!.

Thanks also go to LobsterMobster for putting together both iterations of the UFC Fightpass Thread

UFC Fight Pass Playlists and Collections

The NEW UFC Fight Pass Collection Thread


Go to the MMA's Best and Worst of the Year, 2017 thread to keep up with what has been considered by your fellow PSP-MMA posters as the best (and worst) of the UFC.

More thanks go out to Unfunny Poster for putting together a new UFC Fight Pass Thread - Earning Your 3rd Degree Blackbelt In MMA Posting. This thread is being updated approximately every week with information on new and upcoming additions to the streaming service, and could be good for general banter about old fights and watching Robbie Lawler (c) vs. Rory MacDonald II for the Welterweight Championship. Seriously go watch that fight if you somehow haven't.



As usual, let me know where I hosed something up, and you too could win the No-Prize!

Memento fucked around with this message at 12:35 on May 1, 2017

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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Unfunny Poster posted:

Great OP but is it just me or are the tables broken thanks to that Perry breakdancing gif?

That'll learn me to trust gfycat, it looked alright on my 1080 monitor but I checked it on my laptop and it sucked. I transferred them to imgur, should be good now.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

DirtRoadJunglist posted:

I have to check for the tattoo to know which one is which sometimes.

The massive difference in torso size didn't tip you off? Keep in mind the belts are the same size and look how snug Stipe's is.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
gently caress that fight. Everyone involved except the fighters can suck my dick.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Triticum Guzzler posted:

the brazilian card where the hometown guys kept getting nuked and they had to clean dead moths off the canvas with packing tape in between the fights was one of my favourite shows ever

That was legitimately hilarious. Was it even outdoors? I think it might have just been a loving lovely arena.

Edit: I found some vague reference to it in the thread from January last year. I just wanted to point out how we climbed such hopeful heights back then.

Lloyd Boner posted:

UFC 200 is gonna be good.

Memento fucked around with this message at 12:38 on May 2, 2017

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Best-ping.

Watching Rockhold's face during that interview was one of my 2016 UFC highlights

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Charles Gnarwin posted:

"No disrespect but I heard someone declare that you have a fatwad and I'm going to eat it up."

PotY


manyak posted:

Yeah the situation outside of like the top 5 is really insanely lovely right now for every division MW and above

And LHW doesn't even have that.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
gently caress no, I can barely name two.

But they must have analysed it and figured there's the depth of talent they can scoop off the top of the B- through Z- leagues to make it work. Sign the top half of the TUF roster and go from there.

Or maybe I'm giving them too much credit and this will be W145 only worse.

Memento fucked around with this message at 01:43 on May 4, 2017

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Work Friend Keven posted:

I mean if you get general enough, sure, they're I guess both organs in the body that you need to live with average standup. But the heart pumps blood throughout the body and mostly sets it's wrestling up with quick, lunging hooks; whereas the liver processes toxins and usually fades hard in the fourth round.

Maybe your liver fades in the fourth, but some of us put our livers through serious endurance training. I want my liver to be as fresh at the end of the fifth as it was in the first.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

gently caress yes

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Vitor's training at Tristar for his last (UFC) fight.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2017/5/8/15586154/vitor-belfort-training-for-ufc-212-retirement-bout-tristar-gym

He's only 40 so I assume the siren song of "come to Japan and do all the 'roids you want" will tempt him over sooner rather than later.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
I'd also rate "I KO'd the guy that would go on to do that and also KO'd Cro Cop yet somehow am Brendan Schaub every other day of my life"

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Was looking at the wrong Wikipedia page on my phone, disregard.

Still, knocking out Cro Cop while being Brendan Schaub is a fair departure from form.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
GO FORWARD

GO FIRST

GO FORWARD

GO FIRST

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Ein posted:

Do you guys remember when UFC bought Pride and besides a whole lot of nothing they got Werdum, who soon was on a two fight winning streak and would probably be their future UFC HW Champ? But then JDS blasted him into space, got a big bonus, and Dana cut Werdum so fast that the first time he heard about it was when a reporter asked him about getting cut.

tell me there is footage of this

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Benevidez has pulled out of UFC Auckland due to injury. Hopefully my boy Kai Kara-France can get a look in, he's been campaigning hard to get on that show.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
The gently caress? Anderson is out of 212?

http://mmajunkie.com/2017/05/anderson-silva-posts-cryptic-message-out-of-ufc-212

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

manyak posted:

Soon they can announce that Mc gregor vs Mayweather isnt happening either and then everything will be back to the sensible normal status quo (Romero beats Bisping then pops for steroids and retires and Bisping also retires and they do Derek brunson vs Vitor for the interim belt)

:lol:

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
gently caress it, if my nose got hosed up as badly as hers did by Nunes, I'd pay money to get it fixed as well. She was on Rogan's podcast and mentioned having breathing problems due to a deviated septum and he talked up having it corrected - after you retire. I assume there's no better way to get your septum re-deviated than being punched for money.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
But a) it's not a genetic passport, it's like if you had a hematocrit of 35-38 baseline and then all of a sudden you have a reading of 52 just before a big bike race, you're probably blood doping and b) competing in top-level sport and consenting to them keeping your samples for a long period of time is a far loving cry from a government collecting biological details to keep tabs on their population. You're really conflating two issues here that are completely unrelated.

Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_passport

ctrl-f "genetic" and tell me how many hits you get. There's a link to a page called "gene doping", which sounds like it might be somewhere in the ballpark of where you're talking about but if you read it you'll notice the fifth word is "hypothetical".

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Chillanese posted:

Joanna is going to lose.

You think? What does Andrade have that Gadelha didn't?

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Unfunny Poster posted:

It is awesome that half of Garbrandts TUF team got eliminated.

that loving poetry bit caused me actual pain

After we watched it my wife said "I think Jesse Taylor has an acquired brain injury".

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

manyak posted:

Medical surveillance is bad but were talking about people beating each other up for entertainment, its probably less concerning that some sanctioning body has your hematocrit levels on record than if they half-assed the drug testing like in other sports and the guy making 11/11 gets his head caved in by a guy who can afford to abuse designer PEDs

It absolutely surprises me to this day that when the UFC realised they should probably clean things up a bit, instead of calling whoever the NFL uses for their "testing", they got USADA on the phone and agreed to their prices.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Stipe weighed in fine, 246.2

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
There's a dog, best weigh-in livestream of all time.

lol, Eddie's face when the official said "one fifty-six point... zero".

Memento fucked around with this message at 16:12 on May 12, 2017

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

hosed his back up and he's gone for more stem cell therapy. Apparently TJ got to the airport to fly to the conference to discover that his UFC-paid ticket to get there had been cancelled.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Make it for an interim 135 belt, why the gently caress not.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

tesilential posted:

Obviously you've never attended an event or purchased a PPV.

You're as big an idiot as Jon Jones.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Plenty of time for him to drink-drive into a pile of cocaine between now and then.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
How did Cain's surgery go? Wasn't he on cbd oil leading up to 206 just to kill the pain so he could train?

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
I miss the Rory that was willing to commit to exchanges and trade on the feet with excellent strikers. The Rory that was broken by Final Form Robbie Lawler.

I bet Rory misses that Rory too :smith:

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
California is doing something about weight cutting.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2017/5/16/15648532/csac-passes-ground-breaking-package-of-weight-cutting-regulations

They don't want you walking around at any more than 110% of your fighting weight, and fighters will be licensed by weight. Worth reading the whole article.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

tumor looking batty posted:

It will probably happen and its going to suck.

Yup

Also someone make a thread for it so I can ignore it completely.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
I'll lol even harder if he does. I think Bobby Knuckles flattens Bisping if it comes to that.

If only Whittaker had any vestige of a personality.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Born in NZ, but I think he's a naturalised Australian citizen. New Zealand has a population of about the same as Australia's second biggest city, so there's a real limit to how far you can go in MMA there. Of course, there's a limit here as well but it's a fair bit higher.

True about the way he'd be seen/marketed in the US.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Tezcatlipoca posted:

They really need to get rid of the ban on knees to a grounded opponent though. gently caress all this half-assed two hands down bullshit.

Even the most extreme example of this, Coleman vs. Goes from Pride, doesn't dissuade me from agreeing with you. The damage was done there by poo poo refereeing - Coleman landed the first knee, Goes went limp, he then hits three more knees to an increasingly hosed up opponent while the ref gets into position to see what's going on to stop the fight.

Of course then Goes decides the fight isn't over, possibly caused by the pressure on his brain from the bleed it just acquired.

Edit: found a decent version of it.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

empty whippet box posted:

Angela Magana deserved a lot worse than a punch for that post. Pressing charges after you talk poo poo and get slapped is pathetic.

You're a dumb motherfucker

willie_dee posted:

Wasn't it a bit more emotionally charged because the photo was of her touring a children's cancer hospital ward next door to her dad's hospital ward who was also dying of cancer.

Sure hitting people over comments is dumb but at the same time talk poo poo get hit, if she had apologised to Cyborg due to the context not being understood and Cyborg battered her mid apology then it might be off, but that's not what it looks like is happening.

If a Diaz did it no one would be complaining. Magana has shown herself to be an awful person a few times over so I'm glad people are standing up to her.


You too

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Unfunny Poster posted:

Well I have good news for you...

Fuckin' :lol:

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

SquirrelGrip posted:

They signed goku saki

I look forward to fights that feature long winded rants and punches that take two and a half episodes to throw.

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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
First card in a while that's not worth a gdt

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