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YF-23 posted:I figured out how to pull them off, and have done so a handful of times, and they seem like the least useful thing in the world. I don't understand how people draw that much utility from them, for me it feels like you have to make your plane unmanoeuvrable and then the result is that your plane is still unmanoeuvrable but is now facing up or something. That's kind of the idea of PSMs in real life, isn't it? You can't pull out of the kulbit, but you can just let it slide through and do a move faster or in a shorter amount of time than you would have if you had remained within stall limits. Hell, one of the more famous ones, the Cobra, was invented by the Swedes to counter newer aircraft with their older ones.
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Hahaha goddammit. I screwed up the tunnel assault on the SOLG because the core just looked like a wall and I thought "Nah that can't be the target, it's just a plain gray wall."
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Ugh the random arches on the exit that are just wider than your plane are some really mean design choices. I'd love this game so much more with a few checkpoints to make this poo poo less punishing. This is forced tedium.
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You don't have to do a tunnel run to defeat the SOLG.
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McGavin posted:You don't have to do a tunnel run to defeat the SOLG. They're talking about the one in ACES, the mission prior to the SOLG fight.
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McGavin posted:You don't have to do a tunnel run to defeat the SOLG. P sure they're just talking about the sudentor assault in 27.
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I found this video useful in understanding how to do the PSMs. I haven't gotten good at it, but I can at least start it semi reliably. This video and most others I've seen always have metric units set, just a heads up for  like me.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RISyK1r8E38
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Deeters posted:I found this video useful in understanding how to do the PSMs. I haven't gotten good at it, but I can at least start it semi reliably. This video and most others I've seen always have metric units set, just a heads up for Leave it to a Russian to figure out how to do insane poo poo with a fighter plane 
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McGavin posted:You don't have to do a tunnel run to defeat the SOLG. You can though if you really wanted to. The textures are kinda fucky but there *is* a narrow tunnel along the main body so you can fly into the SOLG and go straight for the core. 
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madeintaipei posted:You know how the drones and top aces go a full 180° when you are behind them and locked on? That's what they are doing. Pop a PSM right as they start the turn and the drones just kind of give up for long enough to get a missile in. I've just realized that Project Aces snuck in a AC6 reference. You're dueling with Sol 1, whose callsign is Archange. You're dancing with an angel.
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nine-gear crow posted:They're talking about the one in ACES, the mission prior to the SOLG fight. I pulled up your Let's Play from a while back just to see if there are any more gotchas later in the tunnel. Not having checkpoints does up the tension of those moments considerably because you know you have to do the whole thing in one go... but it quickly breaks down having to do the same things and hear the same dialogue repeatedly.
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Jolo posted:I pulled up your Let's Play from a while back just to see if there are any more gotchas later in the tunnel. The main gotchas of the ACES tunnel run are the SOLG control unit coming out of nowhere, Hamilton being scripted to rubber band you and being invincible, a few plane spawns coming from the Belkan end towards you--including the Named Ace (where you unlock Yellow 13's colours), and some dick move scaffolding and cranes that you can fly into in the final stretch, and I think a couple of gates closing. The tunnel run in 5 is actually one of the easier runs in the series. You've got plenty of room to move around and rudder your way through a lot of it. 04 and 7's are much harder in comparison. Also thanks for the watch 
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How do I do mission 6? I am real bad at this game
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fridge corn posted:How do I do mission 6? I am real bad at this game Is that the pipeline destruction one? Which part is giving you trouble?
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fridge corn posted:How do I do mission 6? I am real bad at this game Use anything other than the A-10, it's too slow for this mission. SFFS and 4AGMs are a good choice for special weaponry. Go for the easiest targets first. For us that'll be the airfield, with it's bombers and fuel tanks. Ignore the helicopter base in the canyons for now. Feel free to destroy the truck convoys and clusters of ground targets on the way. Once you have wrecked the place it'll probably be time to rearm. Shoot down targets of opportunity at the heli base on the way back, paying special attention to the few aircraft, AH64s and Harriers. Rearm, now fly to the storage depot and destroy the tightly clustered warehouses there. Plenty of aircraft should be following you now, usually a few high point value planes will push your score over the edge. The heli base provides plenty of stationary targets if you'd rather not deal with air-to-air combat, but the SAMs there can be nasty. Fast jet, special weapons with spread damage or multi-lock on, airbase, storage depot, helicopter base.
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madeintaipei posted:Use anything other than the A-10, it's too slow for this mission. SFFS and 4AGMs are a good choice for special weaponry. I did use the a10 at first but yeah it is way to slow. I tried a mirage with ugb but they werent really effective. I dont think I have a plane or am even close to unlocking one that's both fast and has 4agm
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fridge corn posted:I did use the a10 at first but yeah it is way to slow. I tried a mirage with ugb but they werent really effective. I dont think I have a plane or am even close to unlocking one that's both fast and has 4agm UGB isn’t really good in that mission, a ton of the ground targets in the first phase have giant secondary explosions that take out everything around them.
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fridge corn posted:I did use the a10 at first but yeah it is way to slow. I tried a mirage with ugb but they werent really effective. I dont think I have a plane or am even close to unlocking one that's both fast and has 4agm I mean, LAGMs on the MiG29 should work. LASMs, too. Those are available on many aircraft. You'd just have to aggressively use regular missiles at close range. I'll try it a few different ways with earlier aircraft and get back to you. In the mean time, feel free to lower the difficulty any time you are frustrated, especially early on. Ace Combat is designed to be played through multiple times. You might come back to this mission later with better understanding of the map and strategies to beat it. A few missions that I didn't like the first few times are now my favorites.
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Hit fuel tanks to take out things in secondary explosions. Hit a fuel tank and then hit one further away (not in the same line) with the second missile.
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madeintaipei posted:I mean, LAGMs on the MiG29 should work. LASMs, too. Those are available on many aircraft. You'd just have to aggressively use regular missiles at close range. I do have the mig29 so I'll give that a go. The game doesn't let me change the difficulty on a mission I haven't completed, so it looks like I'd have to start from the beginning and then play through the entire game on easy?
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not worth re-doing a quarter of the game just to play on easy, imo. for ground attack missions, speed and range is king; you will spend most of your time moving between clusters of targets, so minimizing that means more points per time. if you have the gripen, consider bringing that with LACMs. otherwise, LAGMs are good for that mission and quite a few others.
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Having a hell of a time on mission 11. All the pointers for this mission say to target the "Core" enemies as they'll knock out their corresponding targets when destroyed, but I swear it's like finding a needle in a haystack when I'm swapping between targets. Or, I switch to one as a target and accidentally blow past it, then overshoot and have to turn around and do it all over again which is killing me time-wise. Is there a trick to rapidly switching targets, or do I just need to git gud? Any suggestions for this mission? The other suggestions I see are to use the Rafale and blast everything with long range cruise missiles, but I just grinded out the F-22 and don't feel like going back to grind out the Rafale. On a happier note, it's starting to click a bit in multiplayer. There are still obvious aces who blast everyone and end the game with 100k+ points, but for the most part I'm holding my own, not just blasting missiles at everyone with no chance of hitting them, and lining up my shots. Whoever mentioned that holding the target button locks your view on your current target is a saint; it's not mentioned in any tooltips or anything, so I probably never would have known otherwise.
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Do you have any planes with pulse lasers? It’s easy to just dump those at the core and call it a day. Guns will do fine in a pinch, I guess.
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Fly inside the platforms.
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Also for the core sections of the bases, you have to make sure you have a clear shot in them and at the right angle. Phone posting so I can’t easily link screenshots or a video, but they’re easiest to spot on the ocean platform. I had to replay the mission once or twice before it clicked that you have to be level with them for a regular missile to actually hit, and which little objects on the platforms need to be avoided as the missiles won’t get through otherwise. And yeah, pulse lasers are particularly effective against them.
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The Midniter posted:Having a hell of a time on mission 11. All the pointers for this mission say to target the "Core" enemies as they'll knock out their corresponding targets when destroyed, but I swear it's like finding a needle in a haystack when I'm swapping between targets. Or, I switch to one as a target and accidentally blow past it, then overshoot and have to turn around and do it all over again which is killing me time-wise. Is there a trick to rapidly switching targets, or do I just need to git gud? Have you played around with the EML? It's basically a sniper rifle. The aircraft carrier can be brought down before AEGIS even knows you are there. The Core targets can be hit with it as soon as you can see them for a one hit kill. I've been smashing the fleet and all ships up to before where the platform launches planes at you, rearming, and destroying the northern platforms for and easy win.
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Mission 11 use an F-22. Load anti-air, attack the central platforms but you’re only worried about the high value airplanes. Make your way south as you run low on AA missiles, land and switch to bombs. Now go after the platforms. Central (north platforms you’re essentially doing a low speed trench run. West platforms you need to get low to the water and take out the two with their core underneath the platforms, then make a few passes at the others, making sure to get clean shots through all their structure. Ret of the mission is AA for lagniappe.
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Nanomashoes posted:Fly inside the platforms. this, really. what i always do is beeline for the north platform and approach directly in-line with the runway. bring pulse lasers ideally but even normal missiles with guns will do. flying through the platform will give you a perfect shot at the cores and also feels cool as heck which is equally important. nailing the cores is harder on the western base but doable if your approach is good. otherwise, once you've turned the northern base into a delicious sandwich you can use your pulse lasers to farm the ships for points.
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GD_American posted:Mission 11 use an F-22. Load anti-air, attack the central platforms but you’re only worried about the high value airplanes. Make your way south as you run low on AA missiles, land and switch to bombs. Now go after the platforms. Central (north platforms you’re essentially doing a low speed trench run. If you’re trying to beat mission 11 for the first time, no way in hell do you have an F22. Maybe at launch if you did a ton of multiplayer but I’m pretty sure that’s super dead at this point.
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I thought he meant trying to get S on it. Just passing it? Take your best AA plane and go pure air-to-air. Plenty of points abound.
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Learning how to fly through the platforms and serving up sandwiches is a vital element of the Ace Combat 7 experience. 
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YF-23 posted:Learning how to fly through the platforms and serving up sandwiches is a vital element of the Ace Combat 7 experience. listen to this man. yes, it's efficient to just clown on planes all day but come on
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MiG 21 with gun pods is always the right choice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32KhcF5VE4Y
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i mean yeah guns only mig-21 is a great fun way to play, highly recommend it to everyone, but not when you're still getting the hang of it all
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fridge corn posted:I do have the mig29 so I'll give that a go. The game doesn't let me change the difficulty on a mission I haven't completed, so it looks like I'd have to start from the beginning and then play through the entire game on easy? Lame about the difficulty. I forgot about that. Okay. I tried Mission 6 with a few airplanes. F-4E/LAGM: barely made it on Ace. Do not recommend. Not maneuverable enough for drones. F2A/LASM: made it with 30s to spare. Lots of work. Plane is more than fast enough. MiG-29/LAGM/4AAM: S ranked, a very luck run. Wiped the airfield and heli base with LAGMs, then went in with 4AAMs and got lucky enough to splash most of the drones at range. 0 MSL and special ammo left, 700 gun ammo remaining. This, I think, is the way to go.
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Radio Free Kobold posted:i mean yeah guns only mig-21 is a great fun way to play, highly recommend it to everyone, but not when you're still getting the hang of it all Nonsense. Sink or swim with the Fishbed.
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Warmachine posted:Nonsense. Sink or swim with the Phantom.
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Warmachine posted:Nonsense. Sink or swim with the Starfighter.
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imo using the F-22 with small diameter bombs is basically cheating on any mission with a significant number of ground targets.
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Honestly- the LACM used on the Gripen are decent. It does top attack, and has an area affect. Pretty sure I used them well against the platforms. They're a good option in Yinshi Valley and the Waipolla Mountains (spelling can eat a dick) for when you can't be bothered evading missiles / mountains.
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