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WrightOfWay
Jul 24, 2010


Soul Glo posted:

In the show doesn't he get Ice and melt it down for Jaime's sword and Widow's Wail?

That happened in the books too.

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emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011


WrightOfWay posted:

That happened in the books too.

In the books the steel is not melted down because that would ruin it. And anyway swords aren't made by pourin molten steel into casts!

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

emanresu tnuocca posted:

In the books the steel is not melted down because that would ruin it. And anyway swords aren't made by pourin molten steel into casts!



Are you calling the opening credits of Conan The Barbarian a liar?!

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Just let it shine through


emanresu tnuocca posted:

In the books the steel is not melted down because that would ruin it. And anyway swords aren't made by pourin molten steel into casts!



That's how magic steel swords are made tho

Number Ten Cocks
Feb 25, 2016

by zen death robot


Melted steel beams can't make sword fuel.

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Just let it shine through


I remember in the show Jaime asking how he managed to have it reforged and Tywin saying they brought in the best smiths they could find in the whole world so at least they pay service to it being difficult

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

Haters gonna hate


emanresu tnuocca posted:

In the books the steel is not melted down because that would ruin it. And anyway swords aren't made by pourin molten steel into casts!



So since the ASOIAF wiki doesn't explicitly say how, if the steel wasn't melted, how did one sword get turned into two swords in the books?

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

Dumb show not being realistic about forging with magical steel. I'm gonna go make a 6 part YouTube series about this.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013







that's a lot of videos on hanzo steel

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011


Nail Rat posted:

So since the ASOIAF wiki doesn't explicitly say how, if the steel wasn't melted, how did one sword get turned into two swords in the books?

The books just say he reworked them, I suppose the process involves heating the metal until it can be reshaped but not actually turning it liquid.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010



I think all the Valyrian Steel weapons that have been mentioned in the show will be in the north or headed north by the end of this season.

ditty bout my clitty
May 28, 2011


Fun Shoe

Here's to hoping that this show doesn't dive deeper into fanfic revengeporn territory.

I hope the new season begins with Daenerys falling to her death from the crow's nest of one of her ships, and tyrion throws up his hands and says "well, that's that. How about some wine?"

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004

"The apocalyptic scenario in Beverly Hills Chihuahua is what happens if AirBud goes too far"


TOOT BOOT posted:

I think all the Valyrian Steel weapons that have been mentioned in the show will be in the north or headed north by the end of this season.

We still somehow need to get that one sword from the ToJ flashback too. I think that was valyrian steel at least the show didnt really make a big deal out of it tho.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

ditty bout my clitty posted:

Here's to hoping that this show doesn't dive deeper into fanfic revengeporn territory.

I hope the new season begins with Daenerys falling to her death from the crow's nest of one of her ships, and tyrion throws up his hands and says "well, that's that. How about some wine?"

Oh please, they will save that for the penultimate episode.

McNally
Sep 12, 2007
And if you thought the DoD healthcare was bad, boy lemme tell ya!

banned from Starbucks posted:

We still somehow need to get that one sword from the ToJ flashback too. I think that was valyrian steel at least the show didnt really make a big deal out of it tho.

According to the books it's made from a meteorite, not valyrian steel.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011



Just got to episode 9 of the first season before noticing there was a subtitle file for the dothraki

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010



banned from Starbucks posted:

We still somehow need to get that one sword from the ToJ flashback too. I think that was valyrian steel at least the show didnt really make a big deal out of it tho.

I think the fact that they included Dawn in the show was just a nod to bookreaders and not something they're going to focus on later. And like someone else said, whatever its significance is going to be the books, it's not Valyrian steel.

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006



Idk who said it but you can in fact cast a sword from a mold

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 9, 2007

Can you believe this shit?


According to spoilers I just read Theon's entire redemption arc is thrown in the toilet as he abandons Yara as she's attacked and all the Iron Born hate him forever again.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

TOOT BOOT posted:

I think the fact that they included Dawn in the show was just a nod to bookreaders and not something they're going to focus on later. And like someone else said, whatever its significance is going to be the books, it's not Valyrian steel.

Yeah, I think that was just an Easter egg. Like House Hornwood being in the anti-Ramsay alliance.

R-Type
Oct 10, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 11 hours!


drunken officeparty posted:

Idk who said it but you can in fact cast a sword from a mold

Valerian steel's properties are different than traditional steel alloy, so the tempering/folding process may not be needed, being magical fat man steel.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004

"The apocalyptic scenario in Beverly Hills Chihuahua is what happens if AirBud goes too far"


McNally posted:

According to the books it's made from a meteorite, not valyrian steel.

Ahh yeah thats right. Prob wont show up again then.

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011


drunken officeparty posted:

Idk who said it but you can in fact cast a sword from a mold

You can cast something in the shape of a sword sure but steel swords that were used in combat weren't actually made like that, it's a good option for replicas but this sort of poo poo will happen if you actually try to use it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N4hprpRJhM

Edit: as I am not actually a sword expert I'd say that the situation might be different with modern industrial steel and manufacturing techniques but in ye olde days you'd forge a sword by beating it into shape.

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Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

But how were magical steel swords made in real life?

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011


Lycus posted:

But how were magical steel swords made in real life?

I would advise against plunging it into the heart of a living human despite what George Ronald Reuel Martin has to say on the subject.

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Just let it shine through


Are those his real R names?

I never knew, and if so, I get why he keeps 'em as initials.

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011


Nah, Raymond Richard.

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010


Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Cersie just materializing new Lannister armies out of nothing and destroying the much larger Martell and Tyrell armies (which haven't been touched in the war) is just so beyond stupid. But that's what the script says must happen so drat any reasoning.

There were some leaked set photos of Randyll Tarly (Sam's evil father) and Jaime riding together. Considering that he is supposed to be among the most powerful bannermen of House Tyrrell, this could mean that a large part of the forces of the Reach has revolted against Olenna and allied with Cersei.

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010


Soul Glo posted:

Are those his real R names?

I never knew, and if so, I get why he keeps 'em as initials.

It's surprise sex surprise sex. His parents had a complicated relationship.

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

Jesus Christ man, there's just some things you don't talk about in public!

emanresu tnuocca posted:

Nah, Raymond Richard.

4 first names? I thought two was bad enough.

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006



Each R in Grrm is just short for 2 more r's in a never ending loop

G-r-r-m
G-rr-rr-m
G-rr-rr-rr-rr-m

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX_6_R1NsoQ

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!

Lycus posted:

But how were magical steel swords made in real life?

I know that this is a jokepost, but Valyrian Steel is a clear analogy to Damascus Steel.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012

Eater of worlds, pins, and CHICKEN


The Verge posted:

In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, HBO programming chief Casey Bloys hinted that the eighth season (only six episodes long) might not air until 2019.

...The interviewer then asked, more explicitly, “So as of now, the final season could air in 2018 and / or in 2019 depending on their needs?” To which Bloys responded, “Yeah. They have to write the episodes and figure out the production schedule. We’ll have a better sense of that once they get further into the writing.”

GRRM will still not be done with the first page of a book

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004



2 years for 6 episodes sounds about right. Is this a joint BBC show now?

R-Type
Oct 10, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 11 hours!


Battlestar Galactica's final season schedule on Scifi was abusive to their audience, to say the least. Seems like a lot of poo poo to put people through, all to get to the final scene where Hodor will be sitting on the throne.

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

Haters gonna hate


Chris James 2 posted:

GRRM will still not be done with the first page of a book

Oh he will, but it won't be THAT book.

quote:

all to get to the final scene where King Podrick of the house Payne, First of his Name will be sitting on the throne.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

R-Type posted:

Battlestar Galactica's final season schedule on Scifi was abusive to their audience, to say the least. Seems like a lot of poo poo to put people through, all to get to the final scene where Hodor will be sitting on the throne.

Uh.

cosmically_cosmic
Dec 26, 2015


R-Type posted:

Battlestar Galactica was abusive to their audience, to say the least

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Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!

It's almost as though it was a sci-fi retelling of the Book of Mormon or something.

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