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gschmidl posted:So, uh, this is pretty flammable, right?
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Slugworth posted:Not really. Great stuff's flammability gets mentioned a lot because it gets used in spots where you really want something with a much higher fire rating. It's not really notably flammable though. It's not a flammability problem, it's a smoke spread issue.
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Youth Decay posted:the one room they didn't whitewash to modern farmhouse hell This room looks half furnished, but I love love love this colour.
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They actually make fireblock great stuff. It's bright orange.
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Youth Decay posted:https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/40-Hellbrook-Ln-Esopus-NY-12487/32839932_zpid/ is it the angle or is the first floor ceiling of the original portion of this house super low? Counting the number of stairs, if they are anywhere near average height...the ceiling looks really low. About 6 or 7 feet high.
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uncloudy day posted:Counting the number of stairs, if they are anywhere near average height...the ceiling looks really low. About 6 or 7 feet high. Yeah its like 6.25’ to the bottom of the beams. Not uncommon in 1600’s/1700’s houses. People were shorter.
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BigFactory posted:Yeah its like 6.25’ to the bottom of the beams. Not uncommon in 1600’s/1700’s houses. People were shorter. We looked at several 1700s houses that last time we were shopping. I decided to pretty much cut them out of the running and limit it to 1800s at the oldest because the 1700s ones were so ridiculously tiny. Most had one or more hallways that I literally couldn't walk down straight because my shoulders wouldn't clear. I'm not exactly a monster either (6 foot, non-goon physique).
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Motronic posted:We looked at several 1700s houses that last time we were shopping. I decided to pretty much cut them out of the running and limit it to 1800s at the oldest because the 1700s ones were so ridiculously tiny. Most had one or more hallways that I literally couldn't walk down straight because my shoulders wouldn't clear. I'm not exactly a monster either (6 foot, non-goon physique). It’s kinda weird how nutrition and medicine has physically changed humans in just a few hundred years. Probably some natural selection going on too.
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People weren't significantly smaller a hundred years ago, or even 300 years ago, or a thousand. Homes were smaller because they were easier to build and to heat.
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I mean I didn’t research this deeply but according to Scientific American, “over the last 150 years the average height of people in industrialized nations has increased approximately 10 centimeters (about four inches).”
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I once did historical re-enactment at a 19th century British Army fort in Canada, and one of the points of knowledge was that the doorways were short because people were shorter then. The period being re-enacted was 1860s and 70s so that tracks.
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Slugworth posted:People weren't significantly smaller a hundred years ago, or even 300 years ago, or a thousand. Homes were smaller because they were easier to build and to heat. The 17th and 18th centuries were a statistical low point for height. The industrial revolution hosed up people’s health.
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Slugworth posted:People weren't significantly smaller a hundred years ago, or even 300 years ago, or a thousand. Homes were smaller because they were easier to build and to heat. I'm not talking about smaller homes in square footage. I'm talking about actually smaller functional areas like hallways and stairways. These things were not done due to cost of maintenance. Nor were they made to 2/3 scale because it was that much cheaper in materials. I'm not really sure where you're coming from here, but do you live somewhere with "older" (Europeans, you can laugh at me now) homes? Doesn't sound like it.
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I live in New England. People were somewhat shorter, but the primary reason was efficiency. Ceiling height isn't that dependent on human height -- you don't build rooms 8', 11', or 20' high (including in the same period) because people are that tall, you do it as a display of wealth.
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Anne Whateley posted:I live in New England. People were somewhat shorter, but the primary reason was efficiency. Ceiling height isn't that dependent on human height -- you don't build rooms 8', 11', or 20' high (including in the same period) because people are that tall, you do it as a display of wealth. I live in the northeast as well. I'm not talking about ceiling height. And yes, low ceilings are awesome for heat/efficiency. I'm talking about I literally can not walk thought a hall way with my shoulders straight and need to contort myself up stairways. This is a different sort of small.
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Motronic posted:I live in the northeast as well. I'm not talking about ceiling height. And yes, low ceilings are awesome for heat/efficiency. My brother in law can't walk with his shoulders straight through one of the hallways in his house either. However, he is of the Goon build and his house was built by a notorious company in the 1970s that often shorted important measurements. There's a whole neighborhood where hallways are too narrow, ceilings a bit low, rooms off by a foot or two from the plans, kitchens where nothing seems of standard size.
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effika posted:My brother in law can't walk with his shoulders straight through one of the hallways in his house either. However, he is of the Goon build and his house was built by a notorious company in the 1970s that often shorted important measurements. There's a whole neighborhood where hallways are too narrow, ceilings a bit low, rooms off by a foot or two from the plans, kitchens where nothing seems of standard size. I never knew Grover owned a building company?
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BigFactory posted:https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/09/040902090552.htm When I was in England for a few years I visited all the museums I could and was always astonished how small the suits of armour were. The real ones people wore all seemed to top out around 170cm. The fake ones however, were just massive. Also, another difference between modern and olden days people is body temperature. Better hygiene, medicine and standards of living mean we're not spending our entire lives fighting off low grade infections and running a permanent light fever.
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Youth Decay posted:
What's with those posts? It's like there are permanent points to rope off part of the room.
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Maigius posted:What's with those posts? It's like there are permanent points to rope off part of the room. It's a carriage house, so possibly hitching posts ...or there would be slats between them to form stalls? I'm not finding a lot of images of actual functioning, historical carriage houses... Brawnfire fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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Youth Decay posted:The Zillow search term of the day is "reimagined" which is realtorspeak for "painted white". Not gonna lie: I seriously don't hate about 85-90% of this post. I would legit live in some of those places. But I don't get the bloodbath dining room either.
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Brawnfire posted:It's a carriage house, so possibly hitching posts The latter. Note the taller posts near the wall that would have been the rear of the straight stalls. Example:  The horses would have been tied in their stalls at the manger, at the wall.. There would likely have been a chain attached to the tie rings on the front posts to keep the horse from backing out, and these would have been used to attach cross-ties to hold the horses while they were groomed.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:I mean I didn’t research this deeply but according to Scientific American, “over the last 150 years the average height of people in industrialized nations has increased approximately 10 centimeters (about four inches).” Motronic, to your point, would a person 4" shorter on average be so much thinner than an average person today that they would be comfortable in the house(s) you're talking about? Especially since you've called out specifically the spaces are 2/3rds the size of normal (an estimate obviously, but still gives us an idea of what you're referring to)? A guy 4 inches shorter than me isn't 2/3rds my size.
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Slugworth posted:Right. 4 inches. On average. Meaning there were still tall people back then, and meaning that the difference in height from the average person back then to today is probably less than the difference in height between you and whoever happens to be sitting next to you as you read this post. Do you and that person live in differently sized homes? Building customs weren’t codified in 1700, but the average adult man was 5’5” tall, so ceiling heights didn’t customarily need to be as tall as they are today. There are people today who need to duck to get though doorframes, but they’re outliers. I would also imagine that a particularly tall family in 1700 might build their house with higher than average ceiling height since there weren’t building codes and customs varied.
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Slugworth posted:Motronic, to your point, would a person 4" shorter on average be so much thinner than an average person today that they would be comfortable in the house(s) you're talking about? Especially since you've called out specifically the spaces are 2/3rds the size of normal (an estimate obviously, but still gives us an idea of what you're referring to)? A guy 4 inches shorter than me isn't 2/3rds my size. It's not so much ceiling/door frame height that's the problem. It's that you'll find section of hallway that aren't wide enough for an average build 6 foot tall man's shoulders to fit through. So we're talking about 24"-ish hallways plus door/cabinet frames and hardware impinging on that space. And 30" spiral staircases that are just all screwed up in how they're laid out. The rooms are generally fine.
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This rules An average increase in height over a population of 4 inches is pretty noticeable. Taller people are taller. Shorter people are taller.
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Motronic posted:It's not so much ceiling/door frame height that's the problem. It's that you'll find section of hallway that aren't wide enough for an average build 6 foot tall man's shoulders to fit through. So we're talking about 24"-ish hallways plus door/cabinet frames and hardware impinging on that space. And 30" spiral staircases that are just all screwed up in how they're laid out. The rooms are generally fine. Maybe those families were mostly wiry folks? Some working men are strong, but also not burly at all. Even some tall guys are narrow as gently caress, like Abe Lincoln. Hallways are sometimes regarded as wasted space. A house where one room leads into the next is more efficient. Having a hallway at all is a luxury. Wanting the luxury of a hallway but also not wanting to waste space could lead to narrow hallways. After all, you are only in the hallway for a few seconds at a time, so it doesn't need to be a comfortable space. Regardless of the size of the people, narrow hallways and staircases make it harder to move furniture so they suck. I guess that might not have been a big concern for the original builders as they could build move in the large heavy pieces before the house was finished. If you plan to use that armoire in that room for the rest of your lives you don't need to think about moving it again.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:This rules It's this. Also different population groups can have radically different heights, and with how mobile people are now you could be looking at even bigger differences. A house built for Dutch settlers 250 years ago could have anyone moving into, including people who's ancestors also needed taller door frames.
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Are people more well built these days? Not fatter, just bigger. I'm a fairly thin, small boned woman, and antique shoes and vintage dresses are all way too small for me. Part of that might be because I don't wear a girdle, though. In Bill Bryson's book At Home, he says that part of the reason houses were built smaller is because there were often taxes on windows and doors. Part of that is vanity sizing, of course VVVVVVVVVVVV HelloIAmYourHeart fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Sep 28, 2020 |
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It’s as recent as a few decades back. There’s a majority of vintage clothing items I won’t ever fit in. I’m a 5’7” woman that’s a modern size 6/8 and I have to shop a few sizes up for vintage. I want a 90s acid wash skirt but I have to get a size or two larger. I’m in vintage “plus sizes” pretty much. Better nutrition and food access leads to larger people.
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The Zillow search term of the day is "carriage house". https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/565-Boylston-St-UNIT-565-Brookline-MA-02445/2077886939_zpid/  https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3-Holbrook-Rd-Briarcliff-Manor-NY-10510/33073312_zpid/  https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/84-E-Lake-Rd-Tuxedo-Park-NY-10987/163648038_zpid/   https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/25-Hillside-Rd-Greenwich-CT-06830/177242558_zpid/    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/192-West-Ln-Ridgefield-CT-06877/57343489_zpid/    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3136-Burnt-House-Hill-Rd-Doylestown-PA-18902/8983349_zpid/  Exposed staircase beams make a great cat tree   this is my dream omg  https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/508-Court-St-Hoboken-NJ-07030/38886542_zpid/ for the inner goth in all of us    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/32-Green-St-Newport-RI-02840/83087153_zpid/ Maximalism at its best   
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Are there any general guidelines for putting up picture frames? Or do you pretty much hang the drat things up wherever you think it looks good? How do you figure out the ideal frame size and spacing? I don't have an eye for any of that stuff. At all.
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For a collage like that, first get the ones you want to hang all together and arrange them on the floor. Take a picture of each configuration before moving onto the next. Maybe sleep on it for a day or two. When arranging make sure you align them on some form of a grid. Alignment works best when there is some form grid behind it. Make sure your base lines and top lines are aligned along with your vertical lines. For art with a certain direction make sure they're facing in towards the rest of the composition. You see in your examples the edges are facing in towards the other art. This help create a sense of a whole. These posters I have would look much more awkward facing away from each other. Much how a tattoo should face towards the wearer. I did an ok job here one of them is a little higher than the other.  Decide a certain width and height for the whole collage and stick within it. This will help determine your margins. When you want to hang them measure from the point of the hanger to the outside edge of the frame next to it working in one direction. Do the same for the height. I set my squares and distance on the wall us a square ruler. I start from the top left and work toward the right. cheese eats mouse fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Sep 28, 2020 |
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This new development in my city looks pretty cool (these are renders), nice and small and modern, but $473/square foot for Minneapolis is absolutely absurd https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4737-Minnehaha-Ave-UNIT-208-Minneapolis-MN-55406/2080559300_zpid/ at least it doesn't have popcorn ceiling and that zigzag floor pattern is really cool, as well as the bathroom floor walk-in shower and cool shower wall but it looks like there's a second door from the bathroom to... the closet???? I've never seen that before, the closet connects to the bedroom AND the bathroom
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Youth Decay posted:https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3-Holbrook-Rd-Briarcliff-Manor-NY-10510/33073312_zpid/ Is everyone pretending they didn't see this one or what
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Is everyone pretending they didn't see this one or what Sorry I was getting dressed 
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Is everyone pretending they didn't see this one or what been frantically trying to figure out how to source that wallpaper
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butros posted:been frantically trying to figure out how to source that wallpaper ngl actually shocked to find it, it was the second GIS result for "black wallpaper gold cutlery" https://joyfulwallpapercompany.com/collections/black-wallpapers/products/cutlery-brass-wallpaper-by-mind-the-gap
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