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One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

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ate poo poo on live tv posted:

if equality feels like oppression it’s probably a neoliberal solution and not a socialist solution. raise everyone up to a white millionaires lifestyle, don’t make police brutality affect everyone equally.

Nah, there's a big chunk of the population that only views status as relative. Raising the floor is going to make them scream no matter how you do it.

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One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

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bump_fn posted:

I never loving get this take

every single bernie supporter I know myself included voted for Hillary in the general

unlike Hillary primary voters in 08, 25% of whom votes mccain

I think the number I've seen most recently was like 10% for Bernie-Trump, but I don't know how trustworthy that is, it seems like it'd be hard to measure, same as the Hillary-McCain voters. Either way, it was so close that just about anything that had a measurable effect can be said to have won/lost the election, so it's dumb as hell to argue about.

They do exist though, my mom is one, so are a few other ppl in my family. She and others I talked to were basically driven by a deep visceral hatred of Clinton that predates the primary. I don't understand why anyone thought it was a good idea to run someone so widely disliked. I guess a lot of Dem primary voters live in bubbles.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Kitfox88 posted:

Because being fulfilled and satisfied in a multi-person relationship isn't really all that odd. :confused:

Lol literally every person I've met IRL who was currently or previously in a polyamorous relationship was either:

1: Blowing up a dead relationship to get rid of it, much like they do to beached whales with dynamite. (Some didn't realize this is what they were doing until later)

2: One miserable partner manipulated into something they hate because they'd put up with anything to avoid being alone. The partner doing the manipulation probably has a personality disorder, or is trying and failing to dynamite the relationship.

I've known like 6 people who've tried this and it's always one of these. I'm told there are healthy poly folks, I've never seen them, honestly never really heard of any that are actually long term stable.

To be fair all the folks i know are straight or bi, so maybe it works different for the gays and lesbians?

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

get that OUT of my face posted:

being a hotep is a mental illness

I've seen it used here before, but what the hell is a Hotep?

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

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Kurtofan posted:

The problem is that gamers are not a different species. Unlike sealions who are gentle giants

A prime sign of two animals being different species is an inability to successfully mate, so...

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

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Lol if you think your online e-self would just be allowed to exist freely after being uploaded. Your grandkids would decide to stop paying their subscription to HeavenCo, and in order to get enough scrip to be allowed to continue existing, you end up an NPC in some super epic online game for billionaires. If you're lucky your selling minmax stat potions to Barron Trump. Unlucky and you're chased eternally through a jungle by an eight foot tall invincible Jeff Bezos. Eventually your childhood memories are deleted to make space to add more polygons to Carlos Slims second dick.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

This deserves to be quoted over and over, forever. Jesus Wept.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

get that OUT of my face posted:

at this point, if you want to call Red Scare a crypto-fascist podcast, i'm not going to stop you. i personally don't think so but i respect those that do. there's a niche to fill when it comes to leftist cultural criticism but they ain't it

also, the right isn't having any debate on anything and i don't know how she would know that they are

Maybe shes talking about that recent thing with david french and that other dude where the Trumpy cons are openly saying they want heteronormativity actively enforced by govt violence?

Its barely a debate because the David french/rick wilson nevertrumper wing of the R's is probably literally like 3-5% of the party, which was hilarious to see them discover in real time in 2015-2016.

I think they legit thought they were at least a third or so lol.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

get that OUT of my face posted:

there are still some people out there that think 4chan neets were a major reason why trump got elected, that book probably has a lot to do with it

My favorite part about 2016 is that Trump's victory margin is so small that just about anything that worked in his favor or against hillary can be argued as "the winning factor".

4chan Neets doing meme war? James Comey? Sexism? Hillary having a public seizure? "Basket of deplorables"? all at least arguable. Consensus is impossible! Everything went wrong!

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

StashAugustine posted:

They'll probably quiet down just enough that its a bit easier to pretend they're not racist but thats mostly a function of Trumps brain leaking out his ears

I thought this until the last month or so. Now i think that'll only happen if Trpmu has a mcstroke in the next year or two. Current course looks more like GOP going open white supremacy until they collapse into a rump party, collapse the government, or climate apocalypse.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Taintrunner posted:

after the revolution we will abolish all systems of precise measurement

Specofically, the act of objectively measuring things denies peoples lived experiences. Probably just a highdea that the tweeter had the sense to shut down their twitter for after it started to blow up

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

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OldTennisCourt posted:

How could you possibly have a functioning society without actual measurements of time/weight/etc.

Like what is the possible alternative.

Assuming theyre not just dumb or trolling? Hardcore an-prim i guess, like full "agriculture was a mistake" types?

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

A friend once suggested "killbillies", but she probably got that from tumblr

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

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Wax Dynasty posted:

This kind of poo poo brings people to TERFdom.

I dont know that things like this or the "cotton ceiling" drive people to terfdom so much as they give terfs cover. Non terfs just take a deep breath and remind themselves that feelings of entitlement are not the sole domain of the cislords.

Regardless, telling people "your sexuality is immoral" is just as infurating and lovely coming from a transwoman as from a bible thumper, and is not likely to do anything other than make you enemies.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

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A Wizard of Goatse posted:

it's a cotton ceiling thing but they steadfastly refuse to elaborate on whether they endorse woke conversion therapy or what

From the first tweet quoted earlier in the thread, the whole thing comes across with an undertone of sexual entitlement to me, which is a very bad look, given the context.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

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BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Yeah I just wanted to make sure I was remembering correctly, he wasnt like this weirdo going AH gently caress THIS TRASH about something everyone loved

Tbh he probably hated it because there were no titties

Unironically probably correct, and given what horror audiences at the time were used to and expected, this probably explains the audience reaction too.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

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Hodgepodge posted:

i think there's a certain mindset in these sort of issues which looks for rules to enforce, from the point of view of someone who has a certain degree of privilege and power and wishes to justify this by using it to enforce the correct set of rules and thereby be good allies (or more cynically, be benevolent rulers)

Someone on this forum put it fairly well that (paraphrasing) theres a sizable chunk of "woke" folks whose only real problem with the way things are is that they arent the ones holding the nightsticks.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost
What the gently caress is a bapper, much less an antibapper?

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

This is a hot take for C-SPAM, but "no really, there are no good billionaires, being super rich actually breaks your brain" is pretty good info to be pushing out to the general population.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Genocide explainer had a twitter account?

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

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fool_of_sound posted:

uh i dunno the specifics of the gates thing but :thunk:

Uh yeah, like maybe the Gates foundation is forcibly sterilizing people or something, but otherwise, "making birth control available = eugenics" is some straight up great replacement talking points, which makes it a perfect take for this thread. Access to birth control should be a human right.

That said, the only thing the nicest billionaire deserves is the sharpest guillotine.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

A Big Fuckin Hornet posted:

Nah they're right I remember first hearing SJW as a pejorative in LF like a decade ago. it was basically used in the same context as "woke liberalism" would be today. then chuds started using it and the rest is history

I remember a short period where i saw it used for the sort of person who gets very worked up and feisty about about inclusiveness, but only ever in the context of like, otherkin representation video games. But i think that lasted like 20 seconds before it became "anybody who isnt a chud".

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Are there shame pigs who are women? Learning about shame pigs basically made twitter legible to me.

I am going to regret this, but what is a shame pig?

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Mormon Star Wars posted:

This lady used to be one of the biggest chuds on RPGnet and spent like a week trying to convince everyone that the idea of Social Justice was invented in 2001 by cultural Marxists to poison the minds of University students. Upon being presented with papal bulls referring to the idea hundreds of years before 2001, she argued that they could not prove that the idea was older than 2002 because she had never heard of the term before.

If you want an even hotter take, a year or two ago she tweeted that she doesn't actually have any principles even now, except on issues that directly effect her.

How she became a lib Twitter superstar I have no loving clue.

I dont understand trans chuds, like, even more so than ethnic/religious minority chuds. At least a black or Jewish person could convince themselves the dogwhistles are aimed at "bad" minorities, and the folks who talk about pogroms/lynching are marginalized. Theres not really dogwhistles for the anti-trans rhetoric, its just open, and often explicitly violent.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Taintrunner posted:

being unrepentantly evil is very unattractive, sorry!!!

I dunno, a lot of cspam seemed to have the opposite reaction to the large nazi wife

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Thats a really bad leftist take, but not as bad as "true communism necessitates abolishing all systems of objective measurement"

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

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OpenSourceBurger posted:

there are loving morons on Tumblr but that particular post hits way too many signals for it to be anything other than bullshit.

The "i don't care about white toddlers being devoured alive by alligators because their dads are privleged" person was a real person, right?

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

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BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Reminder vikkt is the "systems of measurement are fascist" one

Lol at getting dunked on by captain "everyone should be free to decide what a milliliter is for themselves". Shameful.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

I havent seen a take on cultural appropriation that didnt feel like an obvious troll in quite a while. Seems like it just got misused to death.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

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Taintrunner posted:



can not find a :thunk: large enough for this

Hmm it seems like there might be some difference here:

Men: ~50% of US population.

Whites: ~62-78% of the US population (depending on if Hispanic whites count)

The Rich: 10% of the population, depending on how you define it? Maybe just 1%?

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

I always wonder about people like this, do they really not realize that Joe Biden is sucking all the air out of the room for POC candidates? He's a braindead zombie, but he's very clearly being viewed as "Obama's Third Term" by Dem Primary voters.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Taintrunner posted:



what are you in for? ego violence? drat dude that’s wild

There were threads in old LF that were intended as advice for dudes trying to be good feminist allies, and like half the advice was basically "don't be large or strong in public" and I choose to believe both this tweet and those threads were made in total earnest.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

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A Wizard of Goatse posted:

there were very definitely posts explicitly calling out stretching (ever) as some kind of threat display

Ahh, memories...

Stretching while male was a big one, also whether it was ethical for men to exercise. (large muscles intimidate women, and it's more difficult for women to bulk up, thus getting swole is both an attack on women and flaunting male privilege). My favorite though was the long back and forth arguments on whether you could consider yourself a feminist if you were unwilling to give up PiV sex, I guess permanently?

Pretty sure this was all more or less legit discussion for some of the folks.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

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thicc_waluigi posted:

Good point I guess both takes from that lady suck poo poo

Also the idea that young women and POC arent with biden kinda ignores that the older ones arent with anybody BUT biden.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

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Hedenius posted:

Just tell me we’re not at a point where we’re supposed to take people who identify as “witches” seriously.

Be careful, you'll anger the posters that read a blog post about Alan Moore, got incredibly high, and decided they were wizards. Laughing at this makes you a fedora atheist, apparently!

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

got any sevens posted:

thanks obama

one of the few good things he did

I dunno, Clinton beating McCain, or losing to him, might have been overall preferable. Its not like Obama accomplished much, and pushing back "first black president" 10-12 years could've been a net positive. Obama himself has has said he thinks his presidency might have come too early. Another decade of letting the pre-civil rights generations die off and i bet there would've been less visceral backlash (Trump).

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

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steinrokkan posted:

It's a pipe dream to expect social alienation to present itself in a rational or progressive way. It's the nature of alienation that it drives the sufferer to act destructively, on account that they are not socialized and have no healthy point of reference. Incels are just one sliver of something that reappears throughout history in dysfunctional societies, and that always resolves itself into violence.

Yeah, its mid-late capitalism alienation (expected, predicted) plus internet alienation (unprecedented?). People are atomized and opportunities to build a good life are getting more scarce, its presenting in lots of different ways, none of which are good.

Theres some argument to be made that the specifics of online dating may be more negative/alienating for men than for women, but its not like thats some thing that women did to men, Patriarchy is just bad for men too.

That said, to the incel-defending dude who registered one month ago for a dead gay comedy forum and is either a gimmick or Jon Pop, neither this forum, or anywhere else on the internet, is a particularly good place to talk about this. Incels have basically poisoned the well on talking about romantic rejection/loneliness/alienation.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Problem is giving up on the problem and saying people are just too drat irrational to talk about it is the same poo poo liberals have been doing that's leaving clearly successful far-right recruiting pipelines to do their thing with zero competing narratives.

I don't disagree, theres a direct, intentional pipeline on the internet from "dude who has trouble finding romantic partners" to "some variety of far rightist". You want to start a thread about it, go ahead, i'll post in it, but i think you're gonna end up with a mess of toxic bought-in incels, miscellaneous RW poo poo-stirrers, and folks who view "pathetic lonely dudes" as one of the last targets they can still mercilessly poo poo on without getting shamed.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost
Lol at people assuming this is fake. There were long repeated coversations around this exact conundrum back when LF had feminism threads. Can you really be fighting the patriarchy if you can't give up on riding fat dongs???? Lets fight about it for 40 pages!

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One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

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OpenSourceBurger posted:

There is no loving way it's real. It hits every single Alt-Right/Incel checkmark in their hatred of liberal women

I'm telling you i've literally seen this argument in earnest on these forums, probably around 2008. This was largely before incels or the alt-right were even a thing. It came from people who honestly argued that men shouldn't stretch their arms in public, and that cismen doing strength training was unethical. Its possible this lady is fake, but real (super online) feminists used to argue regularly about whether or not giving up PiV sex was a moral imperative. They may still do this, but not anywhere on these forums.

Please do not let the existence of dumb leftists turn you into mirror universe Alex Jones. Its a trend i see too often here.

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