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Zas posted:anyway: haldeman or ehrlichman?? ehrlichman I would give anything to drink with 70s Nixon for 3 hours
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May 13, 2017 09:15
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Zas posted:anyway: haldeman or ehrlichman?? Ehrlichman got all pissy against Nixon because of the jail time he did HR Halderman 
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May 13, 2017 23:22
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May 13, 2017 23:39
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Why do people keep bringing up that Bush was reading to children when 9/11 happened like it's some kind of insult?
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May 14, 2017 03:18
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because dumbya had a childs brain
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May 14, 2017 04:58
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super sweet best pal posted:Why do people keep bringing up that Bush was reading to children when 9/11 happened like it's some kind of insult? I'd like to think it's some kind of NCLB burn
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super sweet best pal posted:Why do people keep bringing up that Bush was reading to children when 9/11 happened like it's some kind of insult? cause if you're gonna orchestrate a fake terror attack the least you can do is be around to respond correctly!
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May 15, 2017 01:21
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super sweet best pal posted:Why do people keep bringing up that Bush was reading to children when 9/11 happened like it's some kind of insult? cause he reed it upside down lmaoo
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May 15, 2017 04:54
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May 15, 2017 08:21
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i hate this cartoonist. nixon was a monster.
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May 15, 2017 08:24
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Tim Kreider was the only good cartoonist of the Bush years
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCsGSMze_6Q
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May 16, 2017 03:21
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America has gone so far off the deep end that even Nixon looks nice now. 
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May 16, 2017 03:30
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Nixon's crimes seem downright quaint with some perspective.
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May 16, 2017 04:11
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i dunno man him and kissinger's handling of cambodia and vietnam is pretty beyond the pale still
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May 16, 2017 10:32
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqbEsS5kFb8 this is mostly known for the snare sound but i think its a good tune in its own right
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May 16, 2017 10:37
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ScrubLeague posted:Nixon's crimes seem downright quaint with some perspective. he was also directly involved in 2 of america's most notorious interventions in latin america, the 1954 guatemalan coup (as part of the ike admin) and the pinochet coup (during his own admin)
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May 16, 2017 11:25
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What the gently caress, seriously? Reality is so loving weird.
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May 18, 2017 03:36
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condolences to richard milhous today on the loss of his close friend and ex media advisor Roger Ailes
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May 18, 2017 14:27
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bazomatic posted:What the gently caress, seriously? Reality is so loving weird. Assuming Nixon didn't do that poo poo he did with the Plumbers, his second term likely would have seen him introduce universal health care
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May 18, 2017 14:46
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Hodgepodge posted:Nixon > Reagan > Trump Trump > Nixon > Reagan > Dubya In terms of actual damage done on a global scale. Trump might be what was needed to finally snap the far-right out of their madness, or they might just double down on it, that remains to be seen. But he is too incompetent to actually get anything done, and won't last much longer at this rate. So far, Nixon has done more damage than Trump, simply by his refusal to end the Vietnam war. In terms of sheer madness, incompetence and outright corruption, Trump takes the cake though, but each of them is horrible in their own way. Also, in terms of damage to the U.S. and the rest of the worlds perception of it, Trump is probably tied with Dubya.
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Tingfinder posted:Trump might be what was needed to finally snap the far-right out of their madness Funniest thing I've read all week What would they have if they didn't have madness, the far-right is literally a con for the 0.1%
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May 18, 2017 16:40
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Though when Nixon was forced to fire Halderman and Erlichman he also said "this is like cutting off both my arms" and offered them all of his money. That firing might be also the first time the staff put Nixon on unofficial suicide watch
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s62PeTxELL4 RIP Powers Boothe
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Do you think nixon ever called kissenger a kyke to his face. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nebakenezzer posted:Funniest thing I've read all week I might be naive, but i thought that when their elected pissident can't even go 6 months before calls to impeachment, that at least some of them would realize that maybe they've gone a step too far. Even Nixon made it through the first 4 years without calls for impeachment. There's also the fact that faux news is finally coming under siege, and losing many viewers. I have to have hope for the future, or i'll lose my mind.
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May 19, 2017 15:29
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At least Nixon cared about what nominally happened here. Trump would gladly pave over every city with gold if he could. Nixon at least seemed keenly aware of how little he mattered if he wasn't in office. That shallow, insecure paranoia occasionally lead him to do good things.
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Tingfinder posted:I might be naive, but i thought that when their elected pissident can't even go 6 months before calls to impeachment, that at least some of them would realize that maybe they've gone a step too far. Which republicans are calling for impeachment?
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ya alright, just make sure Kissinger suffers under you in the next plane
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LastInLine posted:Which republicans are calling for impeachment? I think the only one that's said "this poo poo is extremely concerning, we need an investigation now" is John McCain. Impeachment is what you call for when the crime is confirmed
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On Watergate: Nixon ran his White House with secrecy, like Obama. He couldn't abide leaks to the press, and so after his election in 1969, he and the Attorney General Mitchell set up a group of "plumbers" to deal with leaks, and in general to pull dirty tricks on enemies. In this group included famous mustached rear end in a top hat G. Gordon Liddy, and two ex-CIA agents, Howard Hunt and James McCord. This group would do several dirty deeds (but not for dirt cheap) including breaking into the office of the Psychologist who leaked the Pentagon Papers, and the wiretapping of Democrat offices in the Watergate hotel. In June 1972, the Plumbers were caught in the Watergate, and immediate evidence suggested connections to the Committee to Re-Elect the President (CREP). Further investigative reports (mainly by the NYT, Time magazine of all fuckin' organizations, and of course the Washington Post) were incredibly juicy, as they uncovered evidence of involvement with the break-in at the highest levels of the Nixon administration. Woodward and Bernstein, intrepid WP reporters were helped in particular by the famous anonymous source Deep Throat, who was revealed finally in 2005 to be Mark Felt, then deputy director of the FBI. Nixon meanwhile instigated a coverup, paying off the Plumbers in jail, while using federal government agencies to cover up his involvement. (Note for anybody watching Nixon: one of the first scenes with Nixon and his advisors is a conversation which would be later be described as "the smoking gun": the hard evidence that Nixon was engaged in a cover-up. It's disclosure on the white house tapes would trigger impeachment proceedings and Nixon's resignation.) In the mind of Nixon, all of this was more or less justified, as other presidents had pulled similarly nasty tricks on him. Nixon had made his name as a communist-hunter in the early 1950s with the Alger Hiss case; which saw Truman using his power to try and protect Hiss. In 1960 while running against JFK, Bobby Kennedy would have Nixon's mother, elderly and dying of cancer, audited by the IRS to distract Nixon. So in Nixon's mind, anyway, the Plumbers were just how the game was played.
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Nebakenezzer posted:I think the only one that's said "this poo poo is extremely concerning, we need an investigation now" is John McCain. john mccain is the most worthless loving senator alive and his word means sweet gently caress all
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Tingfinder posted:I might be naive, but i thought that when their elected pissident can't even go 6 months before calls to impeachment, that at least some of them would realize that maybe they've gone a step too far. Unlike some goons, I don't like delivering bad news on the other hand friend, can I suggest you take steps to preserve your mind?
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Watergate - part 2 While these things were reported, they didn't affect Nixon's re-election, which was by a clear majority in the popular vote and the most one sided victory in US History if you go by the electoral college. 1972 was basically year of the Nixon, a total triumph. Had Nixon made a full confession and apology after the victory, it is likely the whole thing would have blown over. poo poo starts to go downhill in '73. A Grand Jury to investigate Watergate convened, who had the power to issue subpoenas and collect testimony. E:[This was done by the senate in a vote of 77-0 in February 1973.] Judge Sirica suspected shenanigans in the Watergate burglary, and gave punitive sentences of 40 years each to the would-be wiretappers to pressure them into testifying. Around the same time Nixon begins a cover up of the cover up, and seems to have realized he was going to have to give up HR Halderman and John Erlichman, his two political operatives since the 1950s. One of the Watergate buglers, Jeb! Magruder, told Sirica that there had been perjury in the Plumbers trial, and implicated John Mitchell, former Attorney General, and John Dean, the President's new lawyer. John Dean the next day had a weird conversation with Nixon where he got the idea that Nixon was trying to get him to admit to stuff while being recorded. Dean flipped after this and became a witness for the prosecution. The key evidence became the White House taping system. Several presidents previously (like Johnson and JFK) had used voice activated taping systems, and Nixon had one installed in secret early in his administration. Ostensibly this was for history and record keeping; in reality it was to keep a subtle eye on Henry Kissinger, White House national security advisor. Despite being the chief author of White House foreign policy, he had been a **Harvard** professor before this, and Nixon + Halderman/Erlichman thought Kissinger might be leaking stuff to his "eastern establishment" friends. This wiretapping had a hilarious* unintentional effect: it totally insulated Kissinger from Watergate, and he was the only senior Nixon White House member not to be tainted in the later scandal. *I mean I find Chilean dissidents being vanished by the police hysterical, I don't know about you The taping system was inadvertently revealed by Nixon's lawyers. In an attempt to discredit John Dean, a transcript was released to the grand jury of a particular conversation between Dean and Nixon. The Grand Jury noticed it seemed verbatim. Next, Alexander Butterfield (an assistant of HR Halderman in Nixon's first term who had installed the taping system) gave testimony, and when directly asked, confirmed that a comprehensive taping system was operational in the White House. This was a bombshell, and three days later, when Butterfield took the stand again, all the major broadcast networks carried it live. The existence of the taping system was revealed to the world, and Nixon's days were numbered. Nebakenezzer has issued a correction as of 04:28 on May 22, 2017 |
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