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Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit



College Slice

You can always tell a Hi-Point because their guns all look less like actual guns than they do guns from video games circa the years 1997 to 2003.

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Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010




The 9mm mags with extended baseplates have metal followers with a black finish. The 45 caliber guns have an orange follower without the ski ramp. Green followers with a ramp are for 40 S&W. That's a JCP, their .40 handgun. The mag holds ten rounds and is, obviously, under-loaded as is common among the lockup regular crowd.

That gun is larger and heavier than a Beretta 92, by the way.

Ygolonac posted:



Rubber bands are sometimes used instead of tape, but I dunno how widespread it is in criminal-reality...

Banded grips, particularly banded thick and high, are an old universal handgun gun thing even among cops and concealed carry permit holders before good holsters became ubiquitous and affordable. They help keep a gun tucked in your waistband from slipping.

Dingleberry
Aug 21, 2011


Shima Honnou posted:

80% lowers appeal to paranoid but legal gunowners, electrical tape appeals to paranoid but criminal possessors, the obvious solution is to keep selling 80%s and throw in electrical tape grips as an add-on for double price!


That is not even remotely close to a PPK, looks like some old Sig 1911.

Pretty sure it's a zastava .32(the Serbs zastava, not cz)

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit



College Slice

Two-screw grips, if it's a Zastava it's one that someone took the time to tap new holes for. A lot of their stuff still uses escutcheons including the M70 which is the bane of my existence trying to find cool grips for my poo poo. Also visibly different safety, non-Tokarev hammer, different magazine release and slide stop.




I wanna say Star Model BM with an older mag.

Proper Kerni ng
Nov 14, 2011



Turns out this thread is a Baltimoron Detective honeypot, they're just using you nerds to identify crime guns so they don't have to pay real investigators.

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit



College Slice

Proper Kerni ng posted:

Turns out this thread is a Baltimoron Detective honeypot, they're just using you nerds to identify crime guns so they don't have to pay real investigators.

Pfft like they're not just gonna call them Glocks half the time anyway.

grellgraxer
Nov 28, 2002

"I didn't fight a secret war in Nicaragua so you can walk these streets of freedom bad mouthing lady America, in your damn mirrored su

Grimey Drawer

Pretty crappy looking load out.

https://twitter.com/BaltimorePolice/status/870287144459403266

A Titan .25 cal (never heard of Titan)

https://twitter.com/BaltimorePolice/status/869626579307171841

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010



Neat looking dropguns imported by, if I recall correctly, F.I.E.

andrew smash
Jun 26, 2006

smooth soul

It would be cool as hell if there was some way to track that all that mismatched ammo before the cops got hold of it. I know it's all stolen to begin with but it comes in such odd groups it must have been stolen, sold, bartered, stolen again, etc for quite a while before it ended up in whatever dude's pocket on the day he got arrested.

THE BIG DOG DADDY
Oct 16, 2013

Rasheed was, with Aliases, the top 7 PvPers in Bone Krew.


No one talks about this.


Guy buys a stolen gun with whatever ammo is in it already, not exactly a tale of pioneer trading

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

I had a random .308 round in my Jeep and someone stole it.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010


Not Baltimore (my old hometown) but I had the PA State Police call the shop I was working at and ask me to help identify the serial number on a S&W revolver. I helped them out over the phone, telling them which was the model number and which was the serial.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014



YA BOY ETHAN COUCH posted:

Guy buys a stolen gun with whatever ammo is in it already, not exactly a tale of pioneer trading

That first guy has at least three, very possibly four different kinds of rounds in two different calibers. He would have had to have bought that gun stolen with ammo from another guy who bought it stolen with the ammo from yet another guy, which it being Baltimore is plausible

Proper Kerni ng
Nov 14, 2011



bulletsponge13 posted:

Not Baltimore (my old hometown) but I had the PA State Police call the shop I was working at and ask me to help identify the serial number on a S&W revolver. I helped them out over the phone, telling them which was the model number and which was the serial.
that is some high class state law enforcement agency you got there

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

That first guy has at least three, very possibly four different kinds of rounds in two different calibers. He would have had to have bought that gun stolen with ammo from another guy who bought it stolen with the ammo from yet another guy, which it being Baltimore is plausible
When I was a supervisor I had to gently but firmly stop a commissioned security officer from loading his personally owned .40S&W Sigma with company-issued 9mm HSTs.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014



Baltimore crime guns basically all work like the Postal shotgun, just cram a fistful of whatever in there

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit



College Slice

I've seen a black market shotgun up close before. It was being sold by a fence with some ammo.

6 rounds, all birdshot. Two were black shell and so old I couldn't read the brasssteel to tell who made it, two were dark red Federals, one was bright red, and one was green. At least they were all 12 gauge and 2 3/4.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

border patrol qt


Plaster Town Cop

Proper Kerni ng posted:

that is some high class state law enforcement agency you got there

Most of my coworkers are the same when it comes to revolvers. They have no idea.

Doctor Grape Ape
Aug 26, 2005

Dammit Doc, I just bought this for you 3 months ago. Try and keep it around for a bit longer this time.


Doesn't help that there is a third number on most S&Ws to keep the frames and cranes together during assembly.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

Proper Kerni ng posted:

that is some high class state law enforcement agency you got there

When I was a supervisor I had to gently but firmly stop a commissioned security officer from loading his personally owned .40S&W Sigma with company-issued 9mm HSTs.

Luckily 9mm out a .40 doesn't damage it. I have had several novice people I have taken shooting fire multiple rounds of 9mm out of my .40 usp compact

Failed Nihilist
Apr 10, 2015


A Wizard of Goatse posted:

Baltimore crime guns basically all work like the Postal shotgun, just cram a fistful of whatever in there

The poor cats.

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010



JEEVES420 posted:

Luckily 9mm out a .40 doesn't damage it. I have had several novice people I have taken shooting fire multiple rounds of 9mm out of my .40 usp compact

A 9mm cartridge can slip past the extractor and lodge in the barrel. If someone assumes a failure to feed and chambers another round, things can get real interesting real fast.

Steeltalon
Feb 14, 2012

Perps were uncooperative.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVIu3A7Hrs8

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010


I lived about two blocks from there.

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit



College Slice

I wish all journalists were this guy because he's great and also not afraid to get right up in a firefight with a phone.

grellgraxer
Nov 28, 2002

"I didn't fight a secret war in Nicaragua so you can walk these streets of freedom bad mouthing lady America, in your damn mirrored su

Grimey Drawer

The ol' staggering standard rounds and hollow points:

https://twitter.com/BaltimorePolice/status/872430839031844864

Seen better days:

https://twitter.com/BaltimorePolice/status/872137624609226752

Proper Kerni ng
Nov 14, 2011



Is the barrel on that nickel-and-dime-plated embarassment doin' a or is it just a trick of the light?

hazardousmouse
Dec 17, 2010

That ain't a noodle, chirpy!



Shima Honnou posted:

I wish all journalists were this guy because he's great and also not afraid to get right up in a firefight with a phone.

Stay safe god dang ghost!

Sten Freak
Sep 10, 2008

Despite all of these shortcomings, the Sten still has a long track record of shooting people right in the face.


College Slice

I had a Davis Industries 380 I sold to a friend in the 90s and sometimes wonder where it ended up.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014




i have questions about the one spent cartridge

grellgraxer
Nov 28, 2002

"I didn't fight a secret war in Nicaragua so you can walk these streets of freedom bad mouthing lady America, in your damn mirrored su

Grimey Drawer

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

i have questions about the one spent cartridge

I figure dude probably fired the pistol once, and the spent cartridge became jammed. At that point, having no gun repair skills, dude just used it as an object for brandishing. Once cops got a hold of the pistol, they were able to break it down and remove jammed brass.

Doctor Grape Ape
Aug 26, 2005

Dammit Doc, I just bought this for you 3 months ago. Try and keep it around for a bit longer this time.


Proper Kerni ng posted:

Is the barrel on that nickel-and-dime-plated embarassment doin' a or is it just a trick of the light?

This, what the hell is going on there? It looks like it could be missing a second pin under the chamber, maybe that's allowing it to droop?

Miso Beno
Apr 29, 2004


Tryin' to catch me ridin' dirty


Fun Shoe

Doctor Grape Ape posted:

This, what the hell is going on there? It looks like it could be missing a second pin under the chamber, maybe that's allowing it to droop?

Sounds like the right answer to me.

my turn in the barrel
Dec 31, 2007




I can actually play along at home with this one. Much like EAA, FIE was an importer of all kinds of cheap saturday night special guns back in the 1960s-1990 when they went out of business.

They would take whatever they could get cheap, brand it with nifty names like Titan, Tiger, Texan, Titanic, The Best, Musketeer, and Guardian.

Many of the guns were Rohm, Eig and Arminius level crap guns. Occasionally you would get a decent gun from a smaller brand who needed the capital to grow. In this case the Titan was actually a .25 acp Tanfoglio pistol called the GT 27. Originally these guns were solid steel framed but when the GCA of 1968 tried to ban saturday night specials the importers started to make the frames in the US out of aluminum and Zamac. Further the FIE ones were supposedly entirely made out of Zamac and can break slides if fired often.

I have an Excam production frame version my brother gave me. He got it from a dude who must have kept it in a tacklebox or a trunk as it was all rusty and the aluminum frame had turned a mottled poo poo brown like the one above.

I buffed the aluminum back to a mirror finish and keep forgetting about it when I have another gun going but I will reblue it someday.




Here is a site with more in depth info.
http://www.guns.com/review/gt-27-tanfoglio-pistol/

It should also be noted that FIE also imported other decent Tanfoglio guns like the TZ-75 which is a CZ75 clone which later was imported by Excam after FIE went out of business in 1990, which was later updated and is now imported by EAA as the Witness. If I had to guess most of those old saturday night special importers were in someway related like the Ring of Fire manufacturers were.

grellgraxer
Nov 28, 2002

"I didn't fight a secret war in Nicaragua so you can walk these streets of freedom bad mouthing lady America, in your damn mirrored su

Grimey Drawer

The gently caress is that pistol on the right?

https://twitter.com/BaltimorePolice/status/874751684949442561

Is this pre-WW2?

https://twitter.com/BaltimorePolice/status/873861422597492737

Rockin all the ammo brands.

https://twitter.com/BaltimorePolice/status/873504742600826881

and one in the chamber:

https://twitter.com/BaltimorePolice/status/873232812618416130

Bunk ammo, 1950s era?

https://twitter.com/BaltimorePolice/status/873228754184699904

my turn in the barrel
Dec 31, 2007




BB gun on the right.

Looks like a top break smith or possibly a cheaper brand so roughly turn of the century. Sixgun can probably tell what exact model/caliber it is by sight.

my turn in the barrel fucked around with this message at 12:34 on Jun 14, 2017

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit



College Slice

The gun on the right is a toy, the old revolver is probably as old as WWI because people stopped making break-tops a long time ago, and the other revolver looks like an H&R 732, produced between '57 and '86.

Anchor Wanker
May 14, 2015


Kinda want that H+R, not gonna lie.

grellgraxer
Nov 28, 2002

"I didn't fight a secret war in Nicaragua so you can walk these streets of freedom bad mouthing lady America, in your damn mirrored su

Grimey Drawer

An airsoft rifle and some manner of analog radio.

https://twitter.com/BaltimorePolice/status/875115338626732032

my turn in the barrel
Dec 31, 2007




Looking at this closer on a larger screen instead of my phone it's most likely an IverJohnson .32 top break. Most likely dates from 1900-1941.

https://www.gunauction.com/buy/8657828

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grellgraxer
Nov 28, 2002

"I didn't fight a secret war in Nicaragua so you can walk these streets of freedom bad mouthing lady America, in your damn mirrored su

Grimey Drawer

If you're wondering where all the .22 ammo went:

https://twitter.com/BaltimorePolice/status/875870143791935488

Some kind of .45? They even got the dude's testin' key.

https://twitter.com/BaltimorePolice/status/875822113931788288

Lil' backup pistol:

https://twitter.com/BaltimorePolice/status/875425620834086912

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