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IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Calaveron posted:

I'm rewatching season 2 and I cannot believe there are fools who think Lillian is a bad character. She is a delight and any scene with her is the best scene of the episode

Yeah I really don't understand the hate. She was great in this season.

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Ancillary Character
Jul 25, 2007
Going about life as if I were a third-tier ancillary character

IRQ posted:

Yeah I really don't understand the hate. She was great in this season.

The people complaining are probably the rich gentrifying types ruining NYC neighborhoods, so Lillian hits a little too close to home for them.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy
Oh snap!

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



We're getting season 4!

https://twitter.com/KimmySchmidt/status/874665920945192962

CelestialScribe
Jan 16, 2008

Ancillary Character posted:

The people complaining are probably the rich gentrifying types ruining NYC neighborhoods, so Lillian hits a little too close to home for them.

Not really. Carol Kane is a terrible actress who can't form a sentence without sounding like she has a speech impediment. And her story lines aren't funny.

ThNextGreenLantern
Feb 13, 2012
I was surprised to find out "I Beat That Bitch With A Bat" is a real song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRowQGqkjRA

I can't fix America!

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

yessss

that last scene of S3 would have been a wonderful series finale tho

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



IRQ posted:

Yeah I really don't understand the hate. She was great in this season.

Carol Kane is awesome.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Slowpoke Rodriguez posted:

Jane Krakowski as a Native American is eyeroll-worthy no matter what the jokes around it are, because "ha ha, this white lady is an indian" is what it boils down to. I found the redskins meeting very funny, but I'm pretty glad it seems to be over with. That said, if we lose her parents I will be pretty pissed.

Despite my objections, this show, and particularly this season is the first time I have really loved Jane Krakowski. She was the weak link in Ally Mcbeal, she was the weak link in 30 Rock, and I never watched anything else she was in.

Titus was definitely the MVP of this season, dude deserves an Emmy for Lemonading.

I'm pretty sure David Cross left because his character's whole shtick was "Isn't David Cross repulsive?"

What the gently caress kind of unfunny monster thinks Jenna was a weak link on 30 Rock!? :psyduck:

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy

CelestialScribe posted:

Not really. Carol Kane is a terrible actress who can't form a sentence without sounding like she has a speech impediment. And her story lines aren't funny.

She's from New Yawk and she's hi-larious.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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I don't think her mush-mouthed speech is because she's from New York. None of my friends from NY plop words from their mouths like that. She's always had that weird slur to her voice and I think it works pretty well for certain characters she plays, but saying "she's from NY" doesn't automatically make her easier to listen to if you don't like slurred speech.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
The Redskins still have that name and it's still racist as hell, but the last time it was in the news feels like ancient history, especially with the Trump-era multiple scandals per week news cycle.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

What the gently caress kind of unfunny monster thinks Jenna was a weak link on 30 Rock!? :psyduck:

Seriously. Kenneth was the weak link on 30 Rock, everyone knows that.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

PostNouveau posted:

Seriously. Kenneth was the weak link on 30 Rock, everyone knows that.

Not in a universe where Tracey Morgan exists.

Poppyseed Poundcake
Feb 23, 2007
If she doesn't take her top off this season I am done with this show

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Not in a universe where Tracey Morgan exists.

:eyepop:

It's hard to be this wrong, but here we are

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
It's too hard for me to find the line between Tracy Morgan the person and the characters he plays. Seeing him in interviews makes it seem like Tracy Jordan wasn't a character and they just let him exist on the show.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:

She's from New Yawk and she's hi-larious.

Apparently lots of people are pretty sheltered and have trouble understanding accents and dialects of English they're not familiar with. That's excusable if you speak English as a second language, but otherwise: really???

Trillhouse
Dec 31, 2000

Chris was the worst part of 30 Rock. I don't know if he counts sense he didn't show up until the end, but he was by far the least funny of Liz's boyfriends.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Trillhouse posted:

Chris was the worst part of 30 Rock. I don't know if he counts sense he didn't show up until the end, but he was by far the least funny of Liz's boyfriends.

agreed. wesley snipes is my head-cannon liz lemon soul-mate :colbert:

CelestialScribe
Jan 16, 2008

PT6A posted:

Apparently lots of people are pretty sheltered and have trouble understanding accents and dialects of English they're not familiar with. That's excusable if you speak English as a second language, but otherwise: really???

I have lived in New York and have friends from New York. None of them talk like her. The way she pronounces words is really strange.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy
Seriously, Lillian is fine. She slurs her words like some people overenunciate whilst gentrifying.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



Every one of you are wrong. Tracy, Jenna, Kenneth, and Criss were great on 30 Rock.


Hazel was the absolute worst.

irlZaphod
Mar 26, 2004

Kiss the Joycon to Kiss Zelda

I don't think either 30 Rock or Kimmy have weak links as such, all the characters have great comedic moments at times imo.

I think we can all agree, though, that 30 Rock definitely needed more Devon Banks.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Cojawfee posted:

It's too hard for me to find the line between Tracy Morgan the person and the characters he plays. Seeing him in interviews makes it seem like Tracy Jordan wasn't a character and they just let him exist on the show.

I think that's pretty much the case though.


CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:

Seriously, Lillian is fine. She slurs her words like some people overenunciate whilst gentrifying.

I know it's also just kind of how she sounds, but it's also perfect for the role. She's a drug addled old crazy catlady, do you people want her to sound like the queen?

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

agreed. wesley snipes is my head-cannon liz lemon soul-mate :colbert:

Hard agree. Also it makes me happy that IRL he's Sarah Silverman's boyfriend. :allears:

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
I guess the weak 30 rock link would be uh, Judah Friedla
No wait he was perfect those episodes where Tracy makes a porn game and goes all Salieri

30 rock was a drat good show

King of Foolians
Mar 16, 2006
Long live the King!

Davros1 posted:

Every one of you are wrong. Tracy, Jenna, Kenneth, and Criss were great on 30 Rock.


Hazel was the absolute worst.

I agree 100%.

Also Lillian on UKS is fine but what made her suck so much this season was having her own plot. She works better as a side character for other people to play off of or to tag along on adventures.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




I don't think she sucked this season, but I agree. Lillian works best when she's off doing her own thing we don't see much of, and gets dragged into other people's hijinks. Focusing on what she's doing is fine, but not as often as this season.

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
This discussion going on for so long made me have a dream last night where Carol Kane was giving a speech with perfect diction. So thanks for that.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




irlZaphod posted:

I don't think either 30 Rock or Kimmy have weak links as such, all the characters have great comedic moments at times imo.

I think we can all agree, though, that 30 Rock definitely needed more Devon Banks.

I think the bumbling sheriff is this show's weak link, honestly.

SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

King of Foolians posted:

I agree 100%.

Also Lillian on UKS is fine but what made her suck so much this season was having her own plot. She works better as a side character for other people to play off of or to tag along on adventures.

I feel this way about Jacqueline and to some extent, Titus as well. Some Titus subplots are okay, heavy focus on him nearly every episode is overkill. Jacqueline was redeemed somewhat by having some character growth near the end of the season.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

30 Rock's weakest moments weren't characters, they were just individual episodes or plotlines that didn't work: "TGS Hates Women," a lot of Jack's romance stuff in seasons 3 and 4, a lot of the stuff with Hazel, etc.

Hometown Slime Queen
Oct 26, 2004

the GOAT
Honestly, my favorite characters in this entire show are Jacqueline's parents and I'm not entirely sure why. I just love them. :3:

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

like a cigarette should posted:

Honestly, my favorite characters in this entire show are Jacqueline's parents and I'm not entirely sure why. I just love them. :3:

It's because Gil Birmingham is awesome

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Lilian is the best, especially "my husband would be spinning in the wall if he heard this" a few episodes before she's standing next to a very shoddily replastered wall.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

Strom Cuzewon posted:

Lilian is the best, especially "my husband would be spinning in the wall if he heard this" a few episodes before she's standing next to a very shoddily replastered wall.

It's totally plaster, not expired coupons and cake frosting

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


like a cigarette should posted:

Honestly, my favorite characters in this entire show are Jacqueline's parents and I'm not entirely sure why. I just love them. :3:

Hey me too! They chose some great actors for them.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
This show is hysterical but I swear it wouldn't be half as funny if it didn't have the soundtrack it has

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Strawman
Feb 9, 2008

Tortuga means turtle, and that's me. I take my time but I always win.


Calaveron posted:

This show is hysterical but I swear it wouldn't be half as funny if it didn't have the soundtrack it has

Yeah, but it's just not the same since Art Smelly died :smith:

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