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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Why do dictators always make themselves win 95%+ of the vote nobody believes it. Why not just go for 80%?

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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
Why don't dictators just use the FPTP system to ensure they can sweep to power with say 40% of the vote???

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

getting away with claiming 98% support is a display of power in a way

also of saying 'not even 3% dissent will be tolerated'

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Do you think Putin is sitting around going "this year we're doing 96.7% of the vote"

The Brown Menace
Dec 24, 2010

Now comes in all colors.


actually why dont they crank that poo poo way the gently caress up

win with 150% of the vote. poo poo, gently caress that, 420.69% of the vote. create two presidencies, win both of them. sky's the limit

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
more concerned with rigging erections, tbqh op

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
The only vote I know they rigged was having guy sebastien beat shannon knowl

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

Lightning Lord posted:

Do you think Putin is sitting around going "this year we're doing 96.7% of the vote"

He wins honestly doesn't he bc Russia is an authoritarian garbage fire of a country by ancient tradition

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

shovelbum posted:

He wins honestly doesn't he
Yeah in a kind of locking up all the opposition leaders repeatedly, controlling the media, and hiring gangs of people to beat the poo poo out of suspected wrongthinkers kind of way.

Joe Son
Jul 23, 2009
if you know what's best for your country, you are obligated to rig elections

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich
When Napoleon did it, and some socialist governments, it was almost certainly for the purpose of portraying themselves as fully representative of the Rousseauian "general will."

Most tin-pot dictators are just lazy hacks, though.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
Putin wins honestly by making sure every voting precinct has the exact same vote percentage 🤔

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
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logikv9 posted:

Putin wins honestly by making sure every voting precinct has the exact same vote percentage 🤔
From what people have said in the Eastern Europe thread, that's less him telling people exactly what percentage to hit, and more those people just sucking up to him in a really obvious manner. I mean, Putin's party only gets a little over 60% of the vote, so he's really not doing the "The people stand as one behind me"-routine. more of a "Russian's are tired of foreign lies and domestic crazies, so they vote for the stability I offer"-routine. Which is probably more of an embellishment of the truth, rather than outright fabrication.

Lamebot
Sep 8, 2005

ロボ顔菌~♡

The Muppets On PCP posted:

more concerned with rigging erections, tbqh op

dicksail

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
Just make a system where you have a field of 40 people and you win with 26%. You always can get 26% and make it believable.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Just do the biggest middle finger possible, dont tamper with the election, lose it, and then do nothing because the entire military is in your pocket

Yeah i won with 10% but we have guns and you don't, so I'm still president, deal with it bitch.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008



rudatron posted:

Just do the biggest middle finger possible, dont tamper with the election, lose it, and then do nothing because the entire military is in your pocket

Yeah i won with 10% but we have guns and you don't, so I'm still president, deal with it bitch.

Ah yes the African method. Works well until you piss off the military.

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

With enough controls on media it's quite possible that 90%+ election results are sometimes real.

Imagine if instead of splitting into Democrat and Republican, there were just a single Property Party and the only opposition was communists. If Property partisans controlled most of the media plus orders of magnitude more campaign funding it's possible they'd win ridiculous majorities without rigging.

platzapS has issued a correction as of 12:39 on May 23, 2017

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

Or say you're opposition but you think you're in the minority, you might just not bother voting if you don't trust the ballot to be secret. Especially if Dear Leader has concentrated polling stations in pro-supporter neighborhoods and it would take hours to cast a ballot. There are plenty of ways to influence elections that aren't outright fraud.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

platzapS posted:

With enough controls on media it's quite possible that 90%+ election results are sometimes real.


check out the recent Falkland islands referendum

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

Jose posted:

check out the recent Falkland islands referendum

LOL 1,513 to 3, for a solid 99.8% victory.

(PS I'm the one person who couldn't figure out the ballot)

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

platzapS posted:

With enough controls on media it's quite possible that 90%+ election results are sometimes real.

Imagine if instead of splitting into Democrat and Republican, there were just a single Property Party and the only opposition was communists. If Property partisans controlled most of the media plus orders of magnitude more campaign funding it's possible they'd win ridiculous majorities without rigging.
what if the democrats and republicans are effectively already a single Property Party and they have essentially the same wealthy constituents supporting the same general economic policies

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Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Peanut President posted:

Ah yes the African method. Works well until you piss off the military.

Or until all your neighboring countries get together and say 'gently caress it, you had your chance' and successfully invade you to install the guy who got elected.

ECOWAS is getting fed up with this poo poo.

Tunicate has issued a correction as of 20:54 on May 26, 2017

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