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Either I'm blind or there's no "The Surge" thread so I've created this to discuss. New game just came out today, check out details below. http://www.thesurge-game.com/ "The Surge is an upcoming science fiction action role-playing game video game in development by Deck13 Interactive, and published by Focus Home Interactive. Deck13 Interactive described the game as "Rise of the Robots and Souls-style, super-challenging third-person melee combat, but through the lens of a sci-fi setting". The game is scheduled for release in May 2017 (NOW), for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One."
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I'm cautiously optimistic about this. I got burned by Lords of the Fallen cause I was expecting something like Dark Souls but instead got a mediocre action RPG that tries really hard to be like Dark Souls. This looks a lot cooler and seems like it has its own identity, what with the whole sci-fi setting.
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May 16, 2017 03:08
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I am one of the 7 people who enjoyed Lords of the Fallen so I got this. It looks sweet. Downloading now on my tin can and string internet so it should be ready in like 3 hours, well after I'm asleep. There's always tomorrow.
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May 16, 2017 03:09
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game good or game bad
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May 16, 2017 03:36
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Twitch consensus seems to be that it's middle of the road.
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May 16, 2017 03:38
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vandalism posted:I am one of the 7 people who enjoyed Lords of the Fallen so I got this. It looks sweet. Downloading now on my tin can and string internet so it should be ready in like 3 hours, well after I'm asleep. There's always tomorrow. Would it be worth picking up Lords of the Fallen on the cheap?
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May 16, 2017 04:17
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After playing it for an hour and getting past the first boss I can say it's pretty average and definitely feels like an indie game. Lots of tiny niggling annoyances and bugs, like getting stuck in geometry/enemies. It also feels overly samey/grindey, dark souls felt like a natural organic world that was a joy to explore but this is pretty boring in comparison. Maybe it gets better with play?
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May 16, 2017 04:24
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s.i.r.e. posted:Would it be worth picking up Lords of the Fallen on the cheap? I had a pretty good time with it. They did a good job making you feel much more like a heavy stompyman than Dark Souls' rollyman. Don't go in expecting as big or deep an experience and you'll be fine. Haven't played the Surge yet but what I've seen from some Twitch streams makes me want to grab it.
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May 16, 2017 09:47
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I just got done playing about three hours of this. It's no Dark Souls, but it's miles ahead of Lords of the Fallen. Combat feels nice and weighty, the finisher system is satisfying and adds a nice dimension to the loop, and the first boss was pretty alright. Also, and this may be a divisive opinion, but there's part of the level that is almost pitch black except for your flashlights and enemy lights, and it was tense as hell and really fun. Maybe it's because I came into it with low expectations, but I like it way more than I thought I would. It's a solid 7/10 souls-like and well worth playing.
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May 16, 2017 09:49
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Is it loot based or kind of "nab the item once and then never backtrack again"?
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May 16, 2017 09:49
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poptart_fairy posted:Is it loot based or kind of "nab the item once and then never backtrack again"? In the middle somewhere. You collect weapons by chopping them off enemies, then upgrade them by doing the same. Basically, first time you lot a weapon, you get the weapon, but after that you get mats to upgrade. It can feel grindy if you go out of your way to upgrade all you can right away, like I did, but you get mats pretty easily just by fighting dudes like normal. Power level is also way less open than DS. You level, your skills go up, you want to modify them, you use equipment and implants, which are basically buffs or medpaks or something in between. e: It's not Diablo styled loot
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May 16, 2017 09:55
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Kontradaz posted:After playing it for an hour and getting past the first boss I can say it's pretty average and definitely feels like an indie game. Lots of tiny niggling annoyances and bugs, like getting stuck in geometry/enemies. It also feels overly samey/grindey, dark souls felt like a natural organic world that was a joy to explore but this is pretty boring in comparison. Maybe it gets better with play? I've only been watching streamers but they forgot to put landmarks like in the Souls series so every environment I've seen has looked like sci-fi corridors with poor lighting. Does the enemy variety get better? I've only seen AI player bots, forklifts, and drones
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May 16, 2017 11:44
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What is the yellow bar for when you fight bosses?
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May 16, 2017 13:05
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Lakbay posted:I've only been watching streamers but they forgot to put landmarks like in the Souls series so every environment I've seen has looked like sci-fi corridors with poor lighting. I'm only at the start of the second real area, so I can't say much about variety yet, but it does seem that a lot of the footage shown was from early game...at least what I've seen. Seedge posted:What is the yellow bar for when you fight bosses? It's a stagger meter. Whack boss till it falls over, smack weak points till it gets up, rinse, repeat. I have no idea if that system holds true for all bosses, but the first one made good use of it to turn a somewhat meh boss into a neat balancing act.
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May 16, 2017 13:18
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sexy mouse posted:game good or game bad game good, friend. The combat has me hooked. I'm a big fan of Dark Souls but I like the faster pacing in this game.
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May 16, 2017 13:48
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Good Game.
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May 16, 2017 15:00
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There's a pretty funny exploit, if you die (on PC) you can just quickly Alt F4 and when you reload into the game it just puts you back to one of the nearest checkpoints? You can avoid some lovely deaths that way.
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May 16, 2017 15:04
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Is there any way to breakdown items/implants?
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May 16, 2017 16:33
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I don't believe you can destroy weapons, but you can destroy other gear and implants. At the bottom of the screen it should give a controller / keyboard button and "Destroy" next to it.
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May 16, 2017 17:38
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I'm really surprised how much better the combat is in this game than Lords of the Fallen. Weapons feel heavy and powerful without being too slow and the energy system system and weak point targeting adds depth without just aping souls combat. Biggest weakness imo is how samey and maze-like some levels look. The second area is especially bad about this, there are like 5 identical looking shortcut tunnels that lead into completely different places. The third area is not nearly as bad though so maybe it gets better.
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May 16, 2017 18:31
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Not sure why you would want to compare your game to Rise of the Robots.
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May 16, 2017 21:13
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So progression is feeling really nice and productive. I was getting clowned a bunch, so I upgraded my weapon and a leg piece and I feel massively stronger. Maybe that will taper off later on, but I'm liking that upgrades aren't always easy to get, and they actually feel like upgrades.
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May 16, 2017 22:25
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Dimo ArKacho posted:So progression is feeling really nice and productive. I was getting clowned a bunch, so I upgraded my weapon and a leg piece and I feel massively stronger. Maybe that will taper off later on, but I'm liking that upgrades aren't always easy to get, and they actually feel like upgrades. Same. Only upgraded a weapon so far but it took the first boss from being a slog to being done in a few minutes. Guess that makes sense when your max upgrade is +4.
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May 16, 2017 23:03
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Good game so far, and a definite improvement over Lords of the Fallen. A lot of the problems with that game are fixed, and a few still remain (i.e. fast weapons having long attack chains that are surprisingly high commit). The problems that do persist from Lords of the Fallen though have been still made a lot better.
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May 17, 2017 07:15
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This game is fantastic! I am loving it so far, targeting enemy bodies for specific loot is a really great idea and I love just the raw number of animations every weapon has. The only criticism I have of it so far is that targeting enemy bodies is a pain in the rear end and is very finnicky, so I'm always short on body materials because I hardly ever have time to lock on. I also streamed my first 3-ish hours of the game and it went really well and was great fun, you can watch the archive here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkKH3NbfvpM (stream starts at 10:00) edit: Also, I saw a loading screen tip that claimed you can "receive boss equipment upon defeating them, but can obtain unique versions by killing them in special ways". What does that entail? Does anyone know how to do such a thing? I've only beaten the first boss so far and I didn't really see any "special" ways to win the fight. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 07:33 on May 17, 2017 |
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May 17, 2017 07:30
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CJacobs posted:Also, I saw a loading screen tip that claimed you can "receive boss equipment upon defeating them, but can obtain unique versions by killing them in special ways". What does that entail? Does anyone know how to do such a thing? I've only beaten the first boss so far and I didn't really see any "special" ways to win the fight. I just googled that, because I got a weapon, but wasn't sure if it was special or just a boss drop. Apparently, the 'secret' to that fight is to bust up the bubble of circuits underneath the head, not the faceplates. It won't outright kill him, and at some point you'll stop doing damage and have to target the front, but as far as I could tell, that was the only real key to it. I didn't even realize that was a special way to fight the boss...but whatever, it's an easy way to get the weapon. You get a giant fuckoff sword thing, which is pretty nice and has some good knockback and stun on it.
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May 17, 2017 07:48
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Hmm. I guess what I assumed is that you always get that sword since I have on both my main and side playthrough, but that you get a different thing for doing it a 'special' way. I suppose that is the 'special way'. What do you get if you don't do that??
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May 17, 2017 07:56
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CJacobs posted:Hmm. I guess what I assumed is that you always get that sword since I have on both my main and side playthrough, but that you get a different thing for doing it a 'special' way. I suppose that is the 'special way'. What do you get if you don't do that?? You might be right. I just read that on some guide site, could be wrong. I have the exact same thing, and I can't figure out any other way to kill that boss, so I dunno.
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May 17, 2017 08:08
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Killing it the hard way by not hitting the head a la beating the Asylum Demon with your busted sword, maybe?
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May 17, 2017 08:10
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If it's anything like Lords you'll need to kill it without getting hit.  Definitely keeping my eye on this. It's weirdly appealing, but I've got too much stuff on at the moment.
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poptart_fairy posted:If it's anything like Lords you'll need to kill it without getting hit. I just looked a little deeper, and it seems like the special condition for PAX is to beat him without letting him get hit by his own missiles. It seems like you get the same weapon with a vertical shockwave effect, and maybe it starts at level 2. Still no actual video confirmation tho, just GameFAQs saying things...
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May 17, 2017 09:34
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I'm digging this game. It might be a little heretical to say but bosses aren't my favorite part of souls games, it's progressing through the level and finding better ways to kill or avoid enemies. THis game ramps that up by basically making every enemy "red eyed" difficulty level from the get go. gently caress the security dudes in the second area, at least they don't respawn.
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May 17, 2017 10:49
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Game got really hard on the second level. Hating that I can never stun dudes. Sneaking on some guy leads to them smacking right after your first attack with no chance to dodge after the swing.
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May 17, 2017 11:22
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The fast enemies with the twinblades are the bane of my goddamn existence. Also, just when I think the game can't drop any cooler weapons on me, it continues its constant chain of one-upping itself with more and more badass things to smack suckers with.
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May 17, 2017 12:11
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Oriental Hugs posted:Game got really hard on the second level. Hating that I can never stun dudes. Sneaking on some guy leads to them smacking right after your first attack with no chance to dodge after the swing.
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May 17, 2017 12:18
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That's pretty much all there is to it. Having higher Impact makes enemies take less hits to stagger. Certain weapons like the bigass wrench are pretty much guaranteed to stagger humans on almost every hit, whereas ones like the chainsaw sword take a couple good whacks at least.
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May 17, 2017 12:21
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On the fence about buying this game at release price but drat if it doesn't look surprisingly good. Watched the quicklook on Giantbomb and I appreciate how meaty the combat looks and I think the whole look of the rigs and the ability to bolt whatever you want onto them is pretty drat cool. Waiting to hear more opinions but I'll probably wind up checking it out - only issue I have is that the environments aren't all that interesting so the combat will hopefully carry the game.
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May 17, 2017 12:23
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I hope for their Soulslike Part Drei we get a customisable MC who doesn't look like a bellend unless chose to make them that way.
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May 17, 2017 12:34
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Songbearer posted:On the fence about buying this game at release price but drat if it doesn't look surprisingly good. Watched the quicklook on Giantbomb and I appreciate how meaty the combat looks and I think the whole look of the rigs and the ability to bolt whatever you want onto them is pretty drat cool. Waiting to hear more opinions but I'll probably wind up checking it out - only issue I have is that the environments aren't all that interesting so the combat will hopefully carry the game. One of the Steam reviews said it was short, 6 bosses/areas. Though I am also looking for opinions on it. Certainly looks good and a more unique setting, though it sounds short and I'm not sure how much replay it has.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:I hope for their Soulslike Part Drei we get a customisable MC who doesn't look like a bellend unless chose to make them that way. Gotta admit, part of the reason why I haven't bought this game is that I'm incredibly tired of Gruff McWhitedude as a protagonist 
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