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Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Previous thread that spans 8 years of Twin Peaks discussion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWa0dZMHYeE

Many thanks to those who participated in the series rewatch from August 2019 to May 2020. It was a fun tradition and I enjoyed revisiting the series with y'all!


Watch in this order to (help) avoid being lost: Season 1 > Season 2 > Fire Walk With Me > The Missing Pieces > Season 3

It also helps to familiarize yourself with Lynch's film work like Mulholland Drive, Lost Highway, Inland Empire, etc., as Twin Peaks shares themes and actors with them.



And remember:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKiIroiCvZ0

Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Jun 16, 2021

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Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

RedneckwithGuns posted:

Given the whole Rachel Dolezal situation recently I think we're ripe for a return of OG trans-racial representation Mr. Tojamura.


God, that part was so hard to get through. That accent :ohdear: Hahaha

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Also this is topical: Flying Lotus remixed the Twin Peaks theme recently, though personally I find it pretty boring and it sounds like a remix that anyone could do. There are any number of piano/guitar covers of the theme song on YouTube that are more interesting to me than this.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Mraagvpeine posted:

I am definitely not looking forward to seeing James in the revival.
I can't wait to see his forehead !

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Is there a consensus we can come to as to when FWWM takes place? Is it a prequel to the original series or does it take place during an alternate timeline?

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Jerusalem posted:

I started watching Twin Peaks for the first time properly just recently. I'm an episode away from the end of season 1 and am really liking it, then I saw that season 2 is 20+ episodes and according to the OP the middle third are "mad sketchy" so I doubt I'm gonna get through them in a rush :smith:
If you treat Season 2 as close to the same length as Season 1, you'll be fine. The main plotline gets wrapped up in like the first third of the season, so after you finish with that, just skip to the finale. You'll be bypassing a lot of really terrible subplots and getting some closure at the end of the series ( :lol: just kidding :v: ).

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Lord Krangdar posted:

But then you miss out on Josie's fate
Being trapped inside a doorknob ? :v:

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

For me, I noticed a dramatic dip in quality after the green zone ends that it doesn't really recover from until the end. I watched it because I'm a completionist, and there are some moments in there that are so stupid they're fun, but I absolutely would not call most of it necessary, even if you're a fan of the the first season/first third of the second season.

Like the guide says, every episode gives clues to the mythos of the series, but I'd say you're better off watching a Season 2 recap video on YouTube or something to get a summary of those clues than actually watching dull episode after dull episode after dull episode.

Something like this, though obviously only watch it if you've watched the good parts of Season 2 and you're sure you don't want to watch all the bad episodes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tr3lyH41fM

Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 08:14 on May 17, 2017

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

cptn_dr posted:

Yeah, but if you skip Earle, you skip... this.
That was one of those moments that I'd completely forgotten from my first watch of the series, and when I was watching it all last week, I belly laughed at it because it's so loving ridiculous :allears:

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

FWWM is supposed to take place in the days leading up to Laura's death, but there are several things in the movie and The Missing Pieces that make that timeline very unclear, like Annie saying "My name is Annie. I've been with Dale and Laura. The good Dale is in the lodge, and he can't leave. Write it in your diary."

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Raxivace posted:

They're such goofballs and its great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B62P6Gm9jpE

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

bobkatt013 posted:

But there is poo poo already in that in the show Dale and Laura sharing the same dream and happening weeks apart
There's also Philip Jeffries disappearing in and out of time after investigating "Judy".

quote:

In an early draft (dated July 3rd, 1991) Phillip Jeffries first appears in a Buenos Aires hotel where the head clerk hands him a note from a "young lady." Soon after, Jeffries appears in Cole's office in Philadelphia where he tells the assembled agents he's "not gonna talk about Judy." Jeffries says, "I want to tell you everything, but I don't have a lot to go on. But I'll tell you one thing: Judy is positive about this." Then Jeffries drops a fascinating detail: "Her sister's there, too. At least part of her."

This early draft of the script provides strong evidence that Judy was a living person whose note to Jeffries compelled him to go to Philadelphia to tell Cole, "everything." (After all, "Judy is positive about this.") This script also introduces a second mysterious person to identify – Judy's sister. It is possible that this sister may be Josie Packard who "died" in the TV series but whose spirit seemed to live on in the walls (and drawers) of the Great Northern hotel. Robert Engels attempted to clarify some of these early draft mysteries in an interview that appeared in Wrapped In Plastic 58: "The thing behind Judy has to do with where David Bowie [Phillip Jeffries] came from …. He was down there [Buenos Aires], and that's where Judy is. I think Joan Chen [Josie] is there, and I think Windom Earle is there. It's this idea that there are these portals around the world, and Phillip Jeffries had one hell of a trip to Buenos Aires and back! He really doesn't want to talk about Judy because that reminds him of whatever happened to him." When asked if Josie, therefore, could be Judy's sister, Engels replied, "Yes. Yes, I think that is true."

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Stato-Masochist posted:

Well now, I'm not gonna talk about Judy. In fact, we're not gonna talk about Judy at all, we're gonna keep her out of it.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

And to quote David Lynch himself when he gave a surprise Q&A at a Television Critics Association event:

quote:

Q: Are the events in Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me important to the revival?

David Lynch: I can say it’s the story of Laura Palmer’s last seven days, it’s very much important for this.
So mining FWWM/The Missing Pieces for clues to how Season 3 will play out might not be such a bad idea.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

EmmyOk posted:

This needs to be in the OP at least once and maybe even twice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78M7f6dk3Bg

also worth posting in the new thread



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RIxmB4MIoA

Added! Along with the video of Angelo erotically explaining how he and David Lynch hosed which resulted in the creation of Laura's Theme.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Also, if you're on Facebook and you're a fan of the show, join the Twin Peaks LogPosting™ group for the love of god. It's given me so much entertainment in the week or so that I've been a member. So many of their posts are obscure though and will only make sense if you're caught up on everything TP related.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

SaviourX posted:

I legit signed on to logposting last month, got overloaded on memes and macros in a week, and then shut off notifications.
It's basically flooded my news feed for the last week but it's way more entertaining than what most of my friends post :haw:

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Raxivace posted:

There are people watching both for the first time now with the new season coming out and being advertised.
Yeah, I'll probably stop spoilering the original run after Sunday, but I'm sure there are people who have never seen the show before who are specifically watching it because there's a new season coming out.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Woah, Dan Briggs from Between The Buried And Me did a really surreal, awesome version of the theme

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Gaspy Conana posted:

I hope people are able to learn to love whatever it is we get if David decided to go in some super inaccessible unexpected direction with it.
The head of Showtime said this season is "the pure heroin version of David Lynch", and apparently there's no network interference this time like there was last time, so yeah, it's probably gonna be unbelievably weird.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Mraagvpeine posted:

I heard episodes 1 & 2 on 21st, 3 & 4 on 28th, and 1 episode a week after.
That's what I've heard as well!

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Well good thing he and Mike are one and the same and Mike is coming back for the new season then :haw:

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

CJacobs posted:

*Michael J Anderson smashes his head on a mirror* HOW'S LYNCHEY? HAHAHA... HOW'S LYNCHEY?
I stopped appearing in David Lynch movies and became a giant dick. It struck me as funny, CJacobs. Do you understand me, CJacobs? It struck me as funny!

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

el oso posted:

The "Just You & I" scene is brilliant and anybody who doesn't love it is a dum dum.
It's loving hilariously stupid, if that's what you mean!

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

I literally just finished watching Blue Velvet for the first time. Honestly it didn't feel very Lynchian outside of a couple characters, like

A True Jar Jar Fan posted:

Dennis Hopper is completely nuts here and it's fantastic
and lines like "You put your disease in me."

It's definitely more accessible than any other Lynch stuff I've seen, but it also doesn't exactly feel indicative of his style as a whole either, so I don't know that I'd tell anybody to watch it as an introduction to Lynch.

I'll have to watch The Straight Story at some point. Honestly, seeing the G rating and "Walt Disney Pictures Presents" makes me very curious as to how the hell he got involved with that because those are two things I would never associate with Lynch :stare:

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:

if you think Blue Velvet isn't 'lynchian' then you don't know what that term means at all
What I meant was it didn't come close to having that cerebral mindfuck feel of just about everything else I've seen of Lynch's, outside of Dennis Hopper's character with the oxygen mask and the wild poo poo that comes out of his mouth.

Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 22:13 on May 19, 2017

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Jimbot posted:

Oh rad, PS4 has a Showtime App I can get and since I'm a PS+ member I get a small discount (two bucks off). Not bad!
Oh yeah? I was wondering which app I should go with. I was gonna subscribe tomorrow. The iPhone app gives you a 30 day free trial though, and I think the PS4 app only gives you a 7 day free trial. Although I guess after I activate my 30 day free trial, I could just watch it through the PS4 app using the same login, right?

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Is there a "best" way to subscribe to Showtime? The iOS app has a 30 day free trial while the Amazon add-on and PS4 apps only have 7 day free trials, but if I sign up using the iOS app, can I only watch through there or can I use my login across all devices? I mean I guess not with Amazon because that would be tied to my Amazon account...

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

I rewatched both Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive for the first time in years today to get ready for new Twin Peaks. Man, those make little to no sense while watching them, but they're fascinating when you fit all the pieces together in your mind afterwards. They go from seemingly making no sense to making complete sense, it just takes some thought to get there.

Except Mulholland Drive which becomes abundantly clear in like the last 10 or 15 minutes of the movie.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

I guess we can stop spoilering seasons 1 and 2 now, since everyone who was rewatching/watching the show for the first time should be done by now.

Less than 12 hours to go until multiple hours of new David Lynch-directed material for the first time in years. This is crazy! :dance:

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Wait so I signed up for the 30 day free trial through the Showtime iOS app but I went to download the PS4 app and I don't see it listed. Is it only available if you sign up for Vue and then sign up for Showtime through Vue? :negative:

e: Oh, well at least I can use my same login with Showtime Anytime on my PC. That works!

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

sout posted:

Oh it airs tonight, right? I knew it was pretty soon at least. Funnily enough I just watched FWWM for the first time. Wonder what kind of tone this new season is gunna have: Fire Walk With Me or season 2 Ben Horne antics.
Probably both.
I'd assume more FWWM and less weird Ben Horne poo poo because FWWM was all Lynch's doing and the weird Ben Horne poo poo was the writers trying to emulate Lynch's weirdness after Lynch had distanced himself from the show. The new season is 100% Lynch-directed.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

man nurse posted:

So if I'm not willing to add Showtime via my tv provider, basically my only other option is to watch it via free trial on the app on my iPhone?

David Lynch would never approve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKiIroiCvZ0
The login from the free trial you make on the iPhone app can be used with Showtime Anytime, so you can watch it on your PC. There's also the option to add the channel to your Amazon account, and once you do that, you may be able to watch Showtime stuff through Amazon Video apps on various device, though I'm not sure about that.

e: Also this episode description is hilariously vague:

Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 22:12 on May 21, 2017

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

man nurse posted:

How do I log in to Showtime Anytime with the Apple login? When I try to log in on the Anytime site, it asks me to select from a list of TV providers.
For me there were 2 login options, one for if you signed up with the Showtime app and one if you had Showtime through a TV provider. I clicked the first login option, entered my email/password from the app and it signed me in.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

man nurse posted:

Yeah, I can sign in to the Showtime website that way, but not the Showtime Anytime site or app. It looks like the free Apple trial doesn't actually include Showtime Anytime, which really sucks because I wanted to see episodes 3 and 4 tonight.
Oh, are they 2 different things? Well that's confusing and sucks :(

CottonWolf posted:

How are we going to handle spoilers, considering that streamers will be ahead of people who are watching on TV? Black bars for stuff that's aired, then black bars with a warning for stuff that's only been on streaming?
I guess only black bars for episodes 3 and 4, since they aren't technically airing on TV til next week?

I'm going to a concert tonight and watching the episodes when I get home, so I'll probably avoid the thread altogether til I've watched them all.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

If you're a member of the FB group and you don't want to be spoiled, you should probably unfollow it. There are already spoilers being posted in there. Not big ones, just little details here and there, but still.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Escobarbarian posted:

ONLY A FEW HOURS NOW JESUS gently caress

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Mraagvpeine posted:

Looking back, there is something that I didn't understand. What does the clue "the owls are not what they seem" refer to?
Bob takes the form of an owl sometimes when he's not possessing humans.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Goodbye thread! I'll see you after I watch all these new episodes after I get home from this concert I'm at. ENJOY!

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Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

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I just finished watching episode 4. Man, was that more Lynchian than I could've possibly hoped for :allears: It's way less original series and way more FWWM/Mulholland Drive/Lost Highway/Blue Velvet and I am totally okay with that. The "pure heroin version of David Lynch" comment was spot on especially with stuff like the creepy demon spirit in the glass box that's going to be in my nightmares tonight and the entire first 10 minutes of episode 3.

While it's pretty far from most of the tone from the original series, the humor has not been lost. Everything with Dougie at the casino and his house had me laughing uncontrollably, as did the Wally scene, although that was painfully awkward and I hope he's not in the remainder of the season much.

I've seen 4 episodes of this show so far and I feel like I have barely any more answers to the questions I had at the end of Season 2/FWWM than when I started, and not only that but lots more questions have been raised, so thanks David! :lol:

Annabel Pee posted:

Has anyone got a list of the three credits songs so far?
Chromatics - Shadow
The Cactus Blossoms - Mississippi
Au Revoir Simone - Lark

Section 9 posted:

I will just be happy when I can buy a soundtrack with all of them. I'm really hoping that they have a Julee Cruise one at some point, and I really want to hear the entirety of the American Woman remix.
Oh god, that remix was so loving unsettling :ohdear: Perfect atmosphere for that scene.

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