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Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Genre labels can be a bit dodgy, but there seems to be a void we could fill with this thread. With hard rock! Since not much hard rockin' gets posted in the indie rock/pop/folk/electronic thread, and if it's not certified steel it doesn't get posted much in the metal thread.

There is that bit of heavy metal / hard rock overlap, especially glam metal, and there's even some with alt rock. Who knows, but the magic could be this thread doesn't have the strictest of requirements. If it's rock 'n' fuckin' roll as Lemmy often said, put it in here. If it's more headbang worthy than your standard rock fare, maybe just a bit crunchy, lets hear about it!

One of the greats is Electric Six. They're often danceable, but the crowd does become a mosh whenever that hard surf guitar hits in Gay Bar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HSwfS_dk2Y


Here's the latest single from Turbonegro, originally full on punk, now with more of a hard glam rock style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_GQK_eCNf8

Symphonic metal (aka radio friendly heavy metal with female vocalists) is not seen much in the metal thread, could have a haven in here. Within Temptation for example. Or maybe something like Rage Against The Machine, something retro like Aldo Nova, whatever rocks!

I didn't notice a J-rock thread in here, so here's some Gackt!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXp0v93ZRTs

If you have hard rock to post and it needs a home, here's a place to put it. Or there could be a... skyfall?

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Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Good stuff! Rock and even some metal could be posted about in here, since yeah hard rock is a somewhat broad/undefined area. On wikipedia, a lot of bands will have several genres listed, hard rock is often one of the middle ones. Motley Crue is listed as heavy metal / hard rock / glam metal. Electric Six is listed as alt rock / dance rock / new wave / hard rock on there, etc.

There is a lot of rock music that is not hard or heavy for the most part, I guess a lot of the bands in the indie thread for example. The bands that sound more pondering or sad or something like that. But yeah I think just "rock 'n' roll" would often be classified as hard rock these days, by sounding energetic and well, rockin'. Since we don't have a rock 'n' roll thread here either, that stuff could go here too.

Just an overall common ground of hard rockin'. To encourage posting of bands that don't seem to fit in with the other threads.

Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at May 18, 2017 around 17:54

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

^ That is righteous.

Diamondsnake is one of my underrated favs, oddly enough Moby is in the band! And the singer/main guy also has a Bee Gees metal tribute band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGTFhz5cWTk

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

On the classification thing, while it's interesting, you can post whatever you think fits. There isn't a general rock topic to post in, so even if something is considered by some not hard rock enough, it's all good, if you think it fits post away. And on the other end, hard rock that may be metal, that's okay too. We have several metal topics (stoner, black, etc), metal that is hard rock-ish isn't posted about much in the general metal topic as is. Except for some 80s classics.

This thread is between a rock and a hard place. It's a hard rock place, fill it with your rocks or metallic-ish deposits that are maybe too glossy for a metal thread, and a rock that is perhaps too rough for say the indie thread, anyways it's all just descendants of rock'n'roll.

This song seems appropriate, What is Rock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSfo0Jr0O_s

Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at May 19, 2017 around 23:31

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Shark Sandwich posted:

So is this a thread for modern hard rock or what? Because "hard rock" encompasses a good 50 year swath of music and I don't think E6 and Gackt are exactly representative of that.

The thing is, seems very few bands identify as hard rock as the main thing, there are countless subgenres made for every kind of band. But a lot of them will have hard rock listed among several subgenres on their wiki page, or you might just determine that yep this band rocks hard. You can be a hard rock band while also being dance rock and alt rock, like Electric Six. The J-rock scene, especially visual kei (another name for glam metal kinda) is often hard rock, so Gackt fits too.

There are bands that could be called just hard rock, like Guns N Roses or Aerosmith, but this thread isn't intended to be limited to just those bands. Since by now there are many many ways you could categorize bands, but these different sounding bands may all have some hard rock in their formula as well.

Could post some older bands if you'd like, overall the idea is if somebody wants to bring a band to people's attention, in case somebody hasn't heard it, post it in here. If you consider it to be rock that is hard, to your standards, post away.

So for this hard rock thread, it's up to the poster to just post what they think fits. Since this area is a little less easily defined than say what to post in the New Retro Wave thread. And the idea is this could be a place that fills a few gaps in what gets posted in this subforum overall, with sort of a common thing to it.

I could call it the Hard Rock / Harder than average modern Alt Rock / J-Rock / Rage Against The Machine style funk metal / Glam metal / Poppy hair metal / Groovin rock thread also. Or home for rock without a home that is possibly hard. I don't have a short answer for this question it would seem.

Short version, post bands you think could be considered hard rock, even if that band is hard rock mixed with other subgenres.

Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at May 21, 2017 around 01:19

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

^ Said it much better than I could!

BigFactory posted:

Vertical Horizon and Motorhead are basically the same band

I've seen Motorhead live (my fav band!), and as we know, Lemmy says "We are Motorhead, and we play rock 'n' roll" (sometimes more colorfully). He himself chose not to label his band with a subgenre, even though some albums are full on metal, etc. It's rock 'n' roll to Lemmy, even though it's much heavier than just about any other rock band.

The other band you mention, seems they're on the not so heavy side of alt rock (being your point), post what your heart tells you.

Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at May 21, 2017 around 01:31

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

SchwarzeKrieg posted:

Not sure if this is what you had in mind and the first two would probably do alright in the metal thread but hey they're all rockish and hardish so

You did great! I'm really digging this Scorpion Child.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

A human heart posted:

he doesn't say that much anymore for some reason

The end of Lemmy: The Movie doesn't seem to be on youtube but, it's pretty cool. Lemmy said how he'd like to go out, and the gist is he vanishes and a plaque says fooled you again or something. Anyways, I like to think we've been fooled here.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

That is a cool name for a dog who sounds cool! I don't have a conspiracy theory, just took that opportunity to mention something cool Lemmy said. But do watch the movie Eddie and The Cruisers if you haven't, by the way.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

stay depressed posted:

*sprinkles good taste dust itt*

We have indie and post-punk threads already, if hard rock isn't to your taste.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

stay depressed posted:

just posting what i think fits even if it's mixed with other subgenres

You're welcome to do so, just with your remark it sounds like you perhaps didn't enjoy the bands so far, which I find to be more in the hard rock area, subjective as it is. But maybe I'm misinterpreting your comment or taking it too seriously.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Elrobot posted:

jus' goofin'

Thanks for bringing those bands to my attention, good stuff! Nice grooves.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Dave Grohl is a cool dude.

The Protomen by the way deliver the goods 10 times outta 10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMrFiOjxk5s

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Electric Six covering the Pokemon theme, live! They have a new album coming out this fall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5NZzEn1aCc

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

The beauty of art, yes? All these different interpretations.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Always cool to get new stuff from Maynard and notable/influential cats like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgH1DfWV2Ac
(start a minute in)

New Andrew WK song sounds very triumphant, classic rock in the Queen/Steinman-Meat Loaf kind of area, which is a very nice area.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Seventh Arrow posted:

Paul Gilbert would like to provide you all with a public service announcement.

It is beautiful indeed having the Racer X guy give sensible road advice, I like that.

I saw Andrew W.K. again last week, that's a good time. One of the guitarists rocking in his band these days has a video game cover band, Descendants of Erdrick. Everybody should have one.

Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at May 21, 2018 around 08:16

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Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_ijc7A5oAc

This Ghost song topped the Billboard Mainstream Rock Songs chart. I dig that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9i1f_vt43c

Here's one of my favorite songs by The Pillows. Rock n roll, 90s style! Got to see them live last month too. Was beautiful man.

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