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texaholic
Sep 16, 2007

Well it's floodin' down in Texas
All of the telephone lines are down


Will IB offer any milestone/LL increasing rewards outside of the weekly crucible milestone?

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poor life choice
Jul 21, 2006


Hey, I have applied to Goldman Shaxx and Co. PSN Brownview. Think I saw some comments about openings. I posted in a/the discord but remain completely bewildered by there being like 50 different threads so don't know if I did it right. It would be great to get an invite before reset, if that sort of thing matters in terms of welfare engrams.

ElNarez
Nov 4, 2009


Random rolls were terrible and it's good that they are gone. Any system where two thirds of your weapons are trash is a bad system. It's good that it's gone, and no one actually misses it.

poor life choice
Jul 21, 2006


A lot of the fixed roll guns arenít good. Unless Iím just missing the joke you are also describing the D2 experience.

ElNarez
Nov 4, 2009


poor life choice posted:

A lot of the fixed roll guns arenít good. Unless Iím just missing the joke you are also describing the D2 experience.

I'm not saying the current system is good, I'm saying the old system was terrible and no one should wish to go back to it.

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001




ElNarez posted:

I'm not saying the current system is good, I'm saying the old system was terrible and no one should wish to go back to it.
Nah it ruled

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?


It was acceptable in the Rise of Iron/Triumph era where the perk layouts and heavily curated list of possible perks meant you were almost guaranteed to get a usable, good gun with a high chance of getting a great gun, it rained loot so getting that last 1% god roll wasn't unbearable and the vendors refreshed every week and almost always had something worth getting. Plus all the raids being brought up meant there were several set-perk weapons as worthy competition, if you didn't feel like leaving it up to RNG. The Machine raid weapons were good for having synergistic and unique perk sets w/o being too OP, imo.

I mean trying to get a good grasp/loop was still horrendous though.

Mazerunner fucked around with this message at May 22, 2018 around 12:22

texaholic
Sep 16, 2007

Well it's floodin' down in Texas
All of the telephone lines are down


I enjoyed running the weekly hand cannon kill bounty in crucible with a vendor bought palindrome. I got a good deal of eyaslunas that way, granted I never got the eyasluna I wanted but it was a fun carrot to chase. The crucible vendor sold plenty of great to god rolled palindromes so I never had a weaker gun. I just wanted a god roll eyasluna.That also doesn't describe 3 years of random rolls in D1, just the very end.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

A man's life of 50 years
is nothing compared
to the age of this world

Life is but a fleeting dream


I can count on one hand the number of god roll guns I got in the hundreds of hours playing D1 and to be honest I can't remember how many of them were actual drops and not vendor sales like the wormwood or clever dragon.

hitchensgoespop
Oct 22, 2008


My opinion was rolls weren't the problem. 90% of the perks were either useless or boring.

CheeseFactory
May 12, 2009

MAYBE A DINGO ATE YOUR K/D


I love random rolls because i got this bad boy as my first IB drop when it was available and it was the greatest gun ever.

https://youtu.be/UyP8EC5lrI8

Look at it. Just loving look at it.

cvnvcnv
Mar 17, 2013

___________


I enjoyed getting god rolls better than the god rolls. Like the Clever Dragon just mentioned, everyone lost their poo poo for the PB CB HCR roll when I got the far superior SB CB HCR. Effectively the same stability but with a hearty range push.

That was a favorite.

Random rolls were good, became even better.

cvnvcnv
Mar 17, 2013

___________


*lays flowers at the grave of random rolls*

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011


Chasing for a god roll saladin vigil in archon forge was loving fun and I wish we had that in D2. Random rolls were fun

cvnvcnv
Mar 17, 2013

___________


Real talk, has anyone gotten one of the "found in strikes against the most challenging opponents" Catalysts? Because I've seen and heard exceedingly little on some of these things being found. Like, does anyone at all have the Wardcliff one?

Nightfalls only? Heroics? Standard strikes? Only particular strikes in the playlists? What are the criteria?







PathAsc posted:

Chasing for a god roll saladin vigil in archon forge was loving fun and I wish we had that in D2. Random rolls were fun

All I wanted was the sniper with HH but could never get it

A Buff Gay Dude
Aug 21, 2016

The only diamond elo player left in Bone Krew


ElNarez posted:

Any system where two thirds of your weapons are trash is a bad system.

Buddy I got some bad news

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

cvnvcnv posted:

Real talk, has anyone gotten one of the "found in strikes against the most challenging opponents" Catalysts? Because I've seen and heard exceedingly little on some of these things being found. Like, does anyone at all have the Wardcliff one?

Nightfalls only? Heroics? Standard strikes? Only particular strikes in the playlists? What are the criteria?


All I wanted was the sniper with HH but could never get it

"Most challenging" to me says NF. I don't have any either but that's my guess.

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?


The reddit thread I found has a bunch listed as heroic/nightfall boss kills/completions but doesn't have the actual what you do to upgrade them, which says to me that nobody actually has them.

IronSaber
Feb 24, 2009

oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...

Gonna be a voice of dissent and say no, random rolls were not fun. They sucked. I am glad they are gone, because I am not a poopsocker who can spend 40,000 hours grinding for one single decent weapon.

Fight me.

A Buff Gay Dude
Aug 21, 2016

The only diamond elo player left in Bone Krew


"I really wish I didn't get so many bad weapons from random rolls"

*A single finger on the monkey's paw closes*

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011


I sure do enjoy that it took 9 months to get more than 3 "good" weapons worth equipping in each slot in D2

Lol

el B
Jan 30, 2004
holler.

Personally I love deleting the same weapon over and and over and over and over and over and over again with no chance ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever getting a "single decent" version of that weapon.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!


deleting people with main ingredient continues to be the most fun i can have with this very bad game.

https://i.imgur.com/jN1YuBU.gifv

i was so confused i needed a minute to ask for a minute. also, xim good.

A Buff Gay Dude
Aug 21, 2016

The only diamond elo player left in Bone Krew


Maker Of Shoes posted:

deleting people with main ingredient continues to be the most fun i can have with this very bad game.

https://i.imgur.com/jN1YuBU.gifv

i was so confused i needed a minute to ask for a minute. also, xim good.

Isn't the new raid fusion main ingredient on roids?

ItBreathes
Jan 6, 2013


Fixed rolls wouldn't be so bad if all the fixed rolls weren't so bad.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011


Maker Of Shoes posted:

deleting people with main ingredient continues to be the most fun i can have with this very bad game.

https://i.imgur.com/jN1YuBU.gifv

i was so confused i needed a minute to ask for a minute. also, xim good.

MI deletions are the equivalent of eating rear end in d2

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011


A Buff Gay Dude posted:

Isn't the new raid fusion main ingredient on roids?

That's what it looks like

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!


A Buff Gay Dude posted:

Isn't the new raid fusion main ingredient on roids?

so was the ib wizened rebuke one but its got a strange recoil pattern that just doesn't work for me. i'll have to actually raid (lol) and try it eventually. main ingredient is just so ridiculously forgiving.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

What if they'd met?



Raiding


Is good

A Buff Gay Dude
Aug 21, 2016

The only diamond elo player left in Bone Krew


Maker Of Shoes posted:

so was the ib wizened rebuke one but its got a strange recoil pattern that just doesn't work for me. i'll have to actually raid (lol) and try it eventually. main ingredient is just so ridiculously forgiving.

Wizenend Rebuke is slower charge higher inpact so it doesn't have the "counterbalance but we called it precision frame also it's a perk but not a perk because it's intrinsic" thing going. The new raid one is the same archetype as MI and looks awesome.

A Buff Gay Dude
Aug 21, 2016

The only diamond elo player left in Bone Krew


Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!


A Buff Gay Dude posted:

Wizenend Rebuke is slower charge higher inpact so it doesn't have the "counterbalance but we called it precision frame also it's a perk but not a perk because it's intrinsic" thing going. The new raid one is the same archetype as MI and looks awesome.

ooooo i thought MI was the same archetype as WB. me reading weapon perks in this game be like

https://i.imgur.com/WSpD9oi.gifv

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Maker Of Shoes posted:

ooooo i thought MI was the same archetype as WB. me reading weapon perks in this game be like

https://i.imgur.com/WSpD9oi.gifv

That's still better than getting punted into a laser and instakilled because airborne is on.

A Buff Gay Dude
Aug 21, 2016

The only diamond elo player left in Bone Krew


Maker Of Shoes posted:

ooooo i thought MI was the same archetype as WB. me reading weapon perks in this game be like

https://i.imgur.com/WSpD9oi.gifv

Easy mistake because they are the same model but one has a wolf challenge coin clipped into the side

cvnvcnv
Mar 17, 2013

___________


GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Raiding


Is good

It really is, but I'm not much a fan of it in D2.

D1 raids were unique and visually interesting and felt like a journey. The only thing so far that fits that for me is Argos Pts 1 & 2. Awesome to look at, I feel like I'm in a unique space far removed from where I began, and it's really fun. Leviathan is easy and kinda boring and you go nowhere, and Spire looks like the same piss with the addition of some poo poo.

Hopefully September's Raid of Elders in the Reef will shake things up all nice like.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!


airborne is rad because it activates when ur on stairs. if you physics into a wall with like shoulder charge and take a pixel of damage and it ends on stairs it straight kills you

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GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

What if they'd met?




Turn on your monitor

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