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Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010


Let's open with a note that my vinyl order of This is Cave Music and Red Sky came in. The former is spinning up on a linear tracking turntable with fresh stylus right now and

Listen along with No. 6

That established, I just got back from my favorite gun shop:


Beardless is still my studly hero for sending this pony shoe knife


Boring compensated 9 millimeter.


9x17mm, that is!

But a superior caliber isn't enough to make this vestigial compensator-ed pistol fully bitchin'. Let's pop the grips and take a peak inside:


The long bar is the magazine disconnect safety. It blocks the sear when the magwell is empty. The leetle spring is for the mag catch. Don't lose either. Or let the spring pop out of position and bend it when clamping the grip back on, find the mag release dead, curse softly, take it back apart, and put it together properly.


gently caress you.


The lower interior of the right grip has a little spring to keep pressure on the base of the mag disconnect bar.


Fell free to "lose" a piece when reinstalling the grip.

Now to increase the potential of wee roscoe:


Stow the eight-round mag for these here tenners. Well, these spare tenners as it also shipped with a ten-rounder in the box.


Bob Ross (peace be upon him) would describe their tight fit in my kydex 3895 mag. pouch as "a happy little accident."

Now to red, white, and blue the Hi-Point as a proper patriot does:


poo poo, wrong package. Toy accordions are fun on a bun, though.


Awwwww yeah.


Okay, now it's ready for the sandpit after tomorrow's short shift and see if it runs.


Does the compensator work? It's on a 9mm Corto so gently caress no. E: It does vent a fair bit of gas with my handloads so it's doing something. Also looks neat and is a muzzle weight.


Last round hold open works, at least.

TL/DR: Red Sky is also a great album.

And the next couple posts will be reserved for comparisons, range reports, and the kydex I'm going to roll for this portly little son of a whore.

Butch Cassidy fucked around with this message at May 21, 2017 around 19:57

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Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010


Reserved for technical bullshit.

Ever wondered how the CF 380 COMP compares to a forty caliber HK USP compact? No? Well, you're going to learn, anyway!

Loaded Weights:

LCP (6+1) with 95 grain ammo - 12 ounces

Glock 42 (6+1) with 95 grain ammo - 16 ounces

Sig P238 (6+1) with 95 grain boolits - 16 ounces

40 caliber Shield (6+1) with 180 grain HST - 24 ounces

...

Beretta PX4 compact (12+1) with 180 grainers - 34 ounces

HK USP compact with (12+1) with 180 grainers - 35 ounces

CF 380 COMP (10+1) with 95 grainers - 41 ounces

Beretta 92 Elite (18+1) with 124 grainers - 41.5 ounces





With 92 Elite and Glock 42:








Running round count: 338 (A bit more but rounding down)

Failures: One failure to eject a Liberty Civil Defense. I'm not actually going to blame that on the gun rather than the gimmick load, but clearing the failure pointed out a problem, see notes. The 10-round magazines are junk, also mentioned in the notes.

Bobbles: Top round in one mag hung up the slide. Rap on the rear knocked it into battery. Have noticed this as common in new Hi-Point mags. Ten-round mags don't activate last round hold open nor do they drop free.

Notes: My hands require curled thumbs to avoid slide bite. With weak loads, the slide cycle is sluggish and it is a pistol that could slow you down. Sights are actually pretty visible and decently proportioned if not made of confidence inspiring material. Very gentle but comically long-duration recoil impulse. The extractor not hopping case rims when trying to close the slide on an already chambered round makes clearance of a failure to eject a show-stopper. You have to depress the rear of the extractor to lever it out enough while closing the slide to get it to hop the rim and then crank the slide back to try clearing the stuck case. Or lock the slide back and pry the case out with a knife, cut nail (if you're ninety and still one of the people that always keep one tucked in their back pocket kerchief), or other similar rigid tool. The 10-round mags suck and are a constant source of failures, do not buy unless you have patience to tweak them or get them serviced and then reserve them as pure range mags.

Butch Cassidy fucked around with this message at Jun 4, 2017 around 22:58

Sten Freak
Sep 10, 2008


It is a gun

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Detroit





College Slice

Sten Freak posted:

It is a gun

I mean, technically true.

Mortabis
Jul 8, 2010


Cyrano compared your High Point thing to trolling a car show with a beat up el camino but IMO it's more like a trabant.

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010


Going to have to deburr the edges of the racing stripe before hitting the range. They were left sharp and are trying to slice my fingers when manipulating the slide. Don't want to get blood on my grips. Then they'd just be red, red, and blue.

snotball007
Dec 5, 2011

Disturbing in the least.

Recoil Magazine has a concealment issue on newstands now. I got a chuckle from them showing the same model gat, but with the obligatory evidence control number on it.

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010


It's as tall (with the pinkie extension 8-rounder) and long (to the face of the slides, longer with the compensator) as my USP compact.

Wa11y
Jul 23, 2002

Did I say "cookies?" I meant, "Fire in your face!"

Butch Cassidy posted:

Going to have to deburr the edges of the racing stripe before hitting the range. They were left sharp and are trying to slice my fingers when manipulating the slide. Don't want to get blood on my grips. Then they'd just be red, red, and blue.


Thomas Jefferson posted:

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010


Mortabis posted:

...trabant.

Doctor Grape Ape
Aug 26, 2005

12 year streak breaker
Merry Christmas Doc

"Machine a slot for the mag disconnect? gently caress THAT! TONS OF PINS!"

Parts Kit
Jun 9, 2006

durr
i have a hole in my head
durr


OWLS!
Sep 17, 2009


poo poo, I'd carry that.

Hennig
Jan 4, 2014


I know this is a running troll joke... but gently caress me that's disgusting.

ShitheadDeluxe
May 14, 2007


All gun sciences are equally important, even hipointology. You'll get a fake Nobel cast in zamak for this, Butch!

Force de Fappe
Nov 7, 2008



You need to stop this.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK


Slippery Tilde

I want to shoot this. Not as in, "put it in my hand and fire it" but more as in "set up a video camera, screw it to something sturdy, and fire 50 BMG API rounds through it for others to enjoy".

ef;b

https://youtu.be/GFV2vQPTQy4?t=1m30s

B4Ctom1 fucked around with this message at May 20, 2017 around 16:28

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007
The Bartender

Good buddy of mine used to have a Ruger (I think) pistol of some flavor...full size, all steel, no plastic. Don't remember the model. It was a clunky but perfectly serviceable gun that for some unknown reason he traded for a Hi Point. I didn't have the heart to tell him what he'd done, and he didn't realize it for about 3 years. Poor bastard.

Bummey
May 26, 2004

you are a filth wizard, friend only to the grumpig and the rattata


Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010


gently caress

It's actually really fun and I like it. The ten-round mags all doublefeed and need to be sent back to MoM. The eight-rounder runs like a top and I will order a few more. Recoil isn't so much recoil as feeling the slide hit its rearward travel and bump back into battery. Everyone agreed that describing it as bubbly was most appropriate. Even PDX1 was tamed just dandy. Also noticed that it can only feed rounds from a magazine. You can't drop a cartridge in the chamber and drop the slide as the extractor won't hop the rim.

As for the compensator, it kinda works. I put masking tape over the ports to see if it was even venting enough gas to do anything. My vision went confetti on the first shot. My use of Unique for powder may be a contributing factor. I would not buy the standard CF 380, however.

Anyway, no one complained about the trigger, all found the safety easy to use, and everyone enjoyed shooting it. One buddy now wants a Hi-Point pistol and cursed me for it. We only crudely got the sights on steel so it needs a range trip to properly regulate and see if it can group. Which I'm genuinely looking forward to.

I expected to merely accept this gun's existence and proceed to rarely shoot it and keep it as a holster mold for the C9, C9 COMP, CF 380, and CF 380 COMP. I had actually only bought it as a holster mold with side personal challenge to see if the pistols were as bad as I said they were. But it cost $171.26 after transfer and is plenty of fun for the money. gently caress alls of yours opinions.

Sperglord Actual
Nov 27, 2011



poo poo, now I kind of want one.

Parts Kit
Jun 9, 2006

durr
i have a hole in my head
durr


Sperglord Actual posted:

poo poo, now I kind of want one.
https://youtu.be/L78yVFeyvRo?t=1m36s

Sperglord Actual
Nov 27, 2011



At least it's not an expensive sickness!

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010


Filing receipts, I was incorrect about the price. The CF 380 COMP ran me $167.00 total after transfer.

Doctor Grape Ape
Aug 26, 2005

12 year streak breaker
Merry Christmas Doc

I kind of want to throw my LGS for a loop and purchase one of these the next time I'm in. They know me for all the nice stuff I have transferred through them, they might think I've gone crazy if I ask to look at one of these. That comp is just stupid enough to push me over the edge.

Also I just noticed the weight of this thing in your OP, holy loving poo poo

e: double http://www.hi-pointfirearms.net/pro...GRIP3809&cat=15

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010


It's as long as and only one half ounce lighter than a Beretta 92 Elite! Taller or shorter than the Italian depending on mag selected, however.

Wendigee
Jul 19, 2004


OWLS!
Sep 17, 2009


I absolutely loved shooting this thing. Between it being heavier than a pig, and the comp actually doing ~something~ it kind of felt like shooting a blowback airsoft pistol. Except you were pushing .380 downrange. Trigger is downright nice which still weirds me out. Construction is as hilarious as expected, but meh, for 170~ish new with warranty, I would not complain. 10/10 would shoot again, pending more shooting would probably have no issues recommending this as a gun to buy over anything used in the same price range. (Hilarious discounts on good guns aside.)

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010


My wife just did some dryfire with the potmetal bouncehouse and PX4 compact. She liked the Hi-Point more.

Hates her a double-action trigger but I love her despite such character faults. Also dislikes aggressive grip texturing. And slide safeties. Opposites really do attract!

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010


A poster got a bit trenchant with me on HPFF when I mentioned the double-feeds. We had a brief slap fight about letting the mags break in before commenting on their function. In the spirit of fair play, I left the 10-round mags loaded for a few days, unloaded them, fully compressed and released the followers with a tongue depressor 24 times each, reloaded them and hit the range. One still spewed rounds. Looks like the spring breaking in and weakening might be enough to keep from pushing cartridges through the feed lips in the long term. Not an elegant or proper solution but if it works, I can live with it on a range toy. Will end up closing the feed lips a bit, though. I had quickly tweaked them a hair in one that then ran best of the three. I would still suggest the eight-round mags for anyone wanting a suggestion for the most likely reliable mags.

Was also getting failures to eject with my handloads. They are powder puffs that won't reliably run in my Glock 42 and fail similarly in the Austrian in cold weather as the lube thickens up. Going to buy some factory ammo before I say anything definitive about the issue, though. I predict it will run fine with full power ammo. If so, I'll bump up my powder charge a hair.

I continue to like the sights and it hits as well out to 25 yards as the Beretta PX4 compact we were also shooting. The trigger has started breaking in to almost be smooth enough to run like a short double-action which is nice and has also lightened up a bit. The safety was even more intuitive this second day out. I really, really enjoy shooting this gun.

Shooting log updated in the second post.

ShitheadDeluxe
May 14, 2007


Butch Cassidy posted:

Not an elegant or proper solution but if it works, I can live with it on a range toy.

I love it any time an American company embraces the "If it's stupid and it works, it's not stupid" design ethos of the soviet union.

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010


The ten-round .380/9mm pistol magazines are pretty universally regarded as the single worst thing Hi-Point makes and I've even seen reference to employees admitting it. I'm certainly glad they took the time to design devoted mags for the .380 carbine because that hilarious thing runs like a top.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010
I'm conducting an experiment to see if removing your shitty avatar will improve your shitty taste in black metal

Are the carbine magazines compatible with the pistol?

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010


Not reliably in the .380 or 9mm.

The forty and forty-five caliber pistols use the same magazines as the carbines, however. The large bore pistols are also regarded as the most reliable Hi-Point handguns which I can believe just from my experience with mag. design.

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010


Having a kydex workbench in the house may just serve to enable my baser impulses:

Diabeesting
Apr 29, 2006

turn right to escape

Those grips are a christmas miracle. Hydrodip the kydex into American flags as well, thanks in advance

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010


Not a chance in hell am I paying for the material to make that:

https://www.knifekits.com/vcom/prod...oducts_id=12013

The day I finally break down and score a S&W 4566, however.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005



Butch Cassidy posted:

Not a chance in hell am I paying for the material to make that:

https://www.knifekits.com/vcom/prod...oducts_id=12013

The day I finally break down and score a S&W 4566, however.

Speaking of weird requests, do you have access to a Piexon JPX and a TLR-3?

Butch Cassidy
Jul 28, 2010


No and no but I wish I did because that would be the hottest of messes.

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infrared35
Jan 12, 2005



Butch Cassidy posted:

No and no but I wish I did because that would be the hottest of messes.

Please let me know where to send it; my e-mail is user name at gmail.

I think Piexon makes holsters to accommodate a light, but the only one I've seen is for their own weirdo light.

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