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flashy_mcflash posted:Unpopular opinion but if the DT movie gets me to a place where I can hear Idris Elba say "bumhugs" I can forgive just about anything. Not seeing Eddie or Susannah at all is a real bummer, but they're too much for just one movie anyway.
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Filthy Casual posted:Not seeing Eddie or Susannah at all is a real bummer, but they're too much for just one movie anyway. There is no way you could film Susannah and not either make her a horribly racist joke or undercut her whole story. King really poo poo the bed with her despite the unusual and interesting things he wanted to do.
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super sweet best pal posted:Yeah, that's why it's so strange they're doing it now and not back in the early 2000s when the success of the LotR movies would've had producers looking for fantasy serials to adapt and King was still a pretty big name. The poster in the OP doesn't even have a big "Stephen King" prominently splashed along the top or even anywhere, which is half the point of adapting this over paying way less for another sci-fi/fantasy series by someone unknown to non-nerds, his name used to be free advertising. I remember in the early 00s there were a lot of attempts to get an adaptation of The Talisman going.
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May 26, 2017 06:27
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Inzombiac posted:There is no way you could film Susannah and not either make her a horribly racist joke or undercut her whole story. The whole Odetta thing makes a lot more sense in 1987 than it does now. Remove that and the weird demon rape thing and you have a good character.
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May 26, 2017 07:08
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Hodgepodge posted:The whole Odetta thing makes a lot more sense in 1987 than it does now. Basically book 3-5 Susannah.
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Go straight to the bad rear end black lady in a wheelchair and we're in action. Hell, she can be pregnant with a non-demon-rape baby, it'd be pretty revolutionary.
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I know it's a blockbuster and all but I was kind of hoping the Dark Tower movie would be more spaghetti western and less Equilibrium. The thing with him reloading by pouring bullets from his hand like water was kind of cool but tossing six of them in the air in the exact shape of the cylinder and then then slamming the gun down to catch them all at once was anime levels of weightless, unimpressive flashiness. Also unless the trailer is pulling a fakeout framing the story through Jake finding a portal to another world instead of Roland finding a kid from modern America in the middle of his Heavy Metal postapocalyptic western hellscape seems like a huge misstep.
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May 27, 2017 01:49
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Basebf555 posted:If you want to boil it down to two or three words, sure. But its really not about just a twist at the end. It's at the center of almost everything in the entire story in ways that are better left unspoiled. Sounds like a bunch of kaka
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May 29, 2017 20:02
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They set it up so Jake is the main character rather than Roland
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Fried Watermelon posted:They set it up so Jake is the main character rather than Roland I could actually understand this decision as Jake being much more sympathetic to the audience, as Roland is supposed to be a narrow-minded, monster on a mission and only sees Jake as a tool to help him. That's how I remember it in the books, anyway.
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It's a very lazy crutch to use Jake as a fish out of water so Roland can explain the stakes and setting of his strange world from the start rather than letting us slowly discover things through natural character interactions. Not necessarily that this will be the case but if Jake is really the framing character then this is likely the reason.
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Old news from September but I missed it: I guess the plans for a TV series are still going ahead, based on Wizard and Glass http://ew.com/article/2016/09/21/dark-tower-tv-series-stephen-king-wizard-glass/ a more recent article from April where Ron Howard basically says "maybe" http://www.tvguide.com/news/the-dark-tower-tv-series-ron-howard-confirms/
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:It's a very lazy crutch to use Jake as a fish out of water so Roland can explain the stakes and setting of his strange world from the start rather than letting us slowly discover things through natural character interactions. Not necessarily that this will be the case but if Jake is really the framing character then this is likely the reason. It's going to be a lazy, formulaic movie that's indistinguishable from a superhero movie.
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Mantis42 posted:It's going to be a lazy, formulaic movie that's indistinguishable from a superhero movie.  It feels like someone trying to jump on the ultra-profitable cinematic universe thing. Only it won't really work with King's stuff because too much of it is close to canonized. Like, good luck even incidentally tying Kubrick's Shining to something like this.
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The only connector between The Shining and The Dark Tower is that you could say that The Shine is almost certainly related to the psychically talented young people that The Crimson King is using to break the beams. That's really it though, there's no reason to have some official Shining tie-in or anything like that. Salem's Lot is the only one with a direct connection(of the novels that have been adapted to films), and even then the events of that book all take place before the character in question enters the world of The Dark Tower. Plus, very few people give a poo poo about Salem's Lot.
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Basebf555 posted:Salem's Lot is the only one with a direct connection(of the novels that have been adapted to films), and even then the events of that book all take place before the character in question enters the world of The Dark Tower. Plus, very few people give a poo poo about Salem's Lot. And It, but you don't really need to make that explicit for Dark Tower films to work.
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Hodgepodge posted:And It, but you don't really need to make that explicit for Dark Tower films to work. That's really not even what I'm talking about as a direct connection though. A (Dark Tower spoiler)major character from Salem's Lot crosses over and becomes a major character in The Dark Tower series, and there are a few other King stories that have very strong connections like that but those haven't been adapted to film. The one exception would be Hearts in Atlantis, but good luck finding anyone who actually saw that. The point is that if they wanted to turn this into a big shared universe thing and include a remake of Salem's Lot, nobody would be crying foul as if it was some big offense. Very few people still care about the Salem's Lot movie.
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I care.
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Regarding shared universe chat: I just want to reiterate that I have a strong gut feeling that the showdown at the end of the film between Roland and The Man In Black is going to happen in The Overlook. That snowy, burned-out environment looks like nothing else that is shown in the rest of the footage, and showing the hotel itself in a framed picture is a bit too on-the-nose.
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Basebf555 posted:The one exception would be Hearts in Atlantis, but good luck finding anyone who actually saw that. Hey, I liked it 
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Basebf555 posted:The only connector between The Shining and The Dark Tower is that you could say that The Shine is almost certainly related to the psychically talented young people that The Crimson King is using to break the beams. That's really it though, there's no reason to have some official Shining tie-in or anything like that. They go to the world where The Stand takes place. The Man in Black is Randall Flagg
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Fried Watermelon posted:They go to the world where The Stand takes place. The Man in Black is Randall Flagg Which apparently won't be the case in the movie because the rights to The Stand are held by another studio. Which sucks.
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Fried Watermelon posted:They go to the world where The Stand takes place. The Man in Black is Randall Flagg True, I'd forgotten about that one. The point is the same though, if they want to remake The Stand and incorporate it into a Dark Tower cinematic universe, nobody will be complaining about the sanctity of the original miniseries.
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On the topic of a shared Stephen King universe, I'm pretty sure that's what Hulu's Castle Rock show is supposed to be. The teaser explicitly mentions characters like Cujo, Annie Wilkes, and Alan Pangborn. Nobody knows exactly what it's supposed to be about, but Hulu is pitching it as their Stranger Things.
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Fart City posted:On the topic of a shared Stephen King universe, I'm pretty sure that's what Hulu's Castle Rock show is supposed to be. The teaser explicitly mentions characters like Cujo, Annie Wilkes, and Alan Pangborn. Nobody knows exactly what it's supposed to be about, but Hulu is pitching it as their Stranger Things. They probably have a list of the lesser known/older stories that they can pull from, much like how comic book television shows have very strict rules about what they can and can't use. I doubt we'll be seeing IT or The Overlook on that show, and I'd guess they might not even be able to use Derry, just Castle Rock. Who knows though, I'm just pulling that out of my rear end.
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Fart City posted:On the topic of a shared Stephen King universe, I'm pretty sure that's what Hulu's Castle Rock show is supposed to be. The teaser explicitly mentions characters like Cujo, Annie Wilkes, and Alan Pangborn. Nobody knows exactly what it's supposed to be about, but Hulu is pitching it as their Stranger Things. Man if they do like a full season of Needful Things as the penultimate season and then an adaptation of The Stand (like take and expand on the town's story from Ogunquit but excise Frannie and her family) to end the run, it would be so loving good.
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Man if they do like a full season of Needful Things as the penultimate season and then an adaptation of The Stand (like take and expand on the town's story from Ogunquit but excise Frannie and her family) to end the run, it would be so loving good. They can adapt Night Surf since that's a short story that takes place within the same universe as the Stand.
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ruddiger posted:They can adapt Night Surf since that's a short story that takes place within the same universe as the Stand. Not ... exactly? Also Night Surf falls into the same trap as most of apocalyptic fiction of taking place after society has already collapsed and gone. From the humanist view of what goes as each layer of civilization is peeled away, straight towards prepper porn.
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I thought both of them used A6 or Hong Kong flu or something to refer to the sickness?
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The Great Burrito posted:I thought both of them used A6 or Hong Kong flu or something to refer to the sickness? I believe "Captain Trips" is the name used by both stories.
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:I believe "Captain Trips" is the name used by both stories. This is correct.
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I think the trailer looks fine, maybe even great, especially compared to the vast majority of King adaptations. I'm kinda excited. My wife's reading book 3 right now; I never made it past book 4.
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:I believe "Captain Trips" is the name used by both stories. That is correct, but I missed getting it, so went with the common misspelling of Tripps.
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Rando posted:Old news from September but I missed it: I guess the plans for a TV series are still going ahead, based on Wizard and Glass I felt wizard and glass was the strongest book by a wide margin so I'm pretty keen for that.
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BlindSite posted:I felt wizard and glass was the strongest book by a wide margin so I'm pretty keen for that. While The Gunslinger will always be my favorite, Wizard and Glass was def the best read in terms of quality writing imo. It's the only one I really want to go back and read again. I haven't touched the series since I finished it when the last book came out...
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Wizard and the Glass was my favorite too. I hope they do it justice (They won't).
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While I love Elba, the trailer didn't really fill me with hope that this will be good. As someone said, it looks like it's trying to cash in on the superhero fad. I also really loved W&G, it was my favorite of the series. The Wind Through the Keyhole was also surprisingly good, I wish that King had taken his time on the series instead of rushing to finish it, because 5, 6, and 7 are garbage.
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Is it me or is the ad campaign for this not really as robust as it should be? I saw a trailer for DT played in front of Baby Driver this weekend and even as someone who is a fan of the books and will (probably) see this in theaters, I had no idea when the actual release was. For whatever reason I thought this was getting released in October or November, not the August movie dumping period. I'm hoping it does well because I like all Elba, McConaghey, etc and would love to see the DT series get a proper adaptation, but sheesh it seems like someone is dropping the ball.
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:but sheesh it seems like someone is dropping the ball. The Crimson King is doing everything he can to sabotage it?
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