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AWSEFT
Apr 28, 2006



Desi posted:

So, for the OP, "Desi - CYOW/CYQT, ATPL, FI, FII, MEI, Mitsubishi MU2"

Speaking of the MU2.....

Have a great buddy whose dad owned an MU2. He always tells me how awesome an airplane it is and how much he likes it. Years later he told me it was the MU2 that killed his dad.

Something about the how the engine pulled itself to idle, on an approach, because of a faulty ITT sensor. Even with all of his experience it dragged him into the ground.

AWSEFT fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Mar 20, 2019

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MrYenko
Jun 17, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...


http://www.oncequietneighborhood.com

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?

Mostly non U.S. citizens!!!

The Slaughter
Jan 28, 2002

cat scratch fever

Once a quiet neighborhood next to the airport this whole time and his site is now 7 years old so it hasn't been quiet for awhile.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006
THE VOLKSWAGEN DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

They're building a new community right next to Springbank airport too, it's going to be full of people like this I imagine.

Nuggan
Jul 17, 2006

Always rolling skulls.


drat, I flew from Orlando to St Augustine and back today. I hear the Massey guys on the radio all the time. I'm mad I didn't detour by Massey Airpark on my way to see the unnecessary downwind firsthand.

vessbot
Jun 17, 2005
I don't like you because you're dangerous

I find a certain hilarity in these disjointed, repetitive, Timecube-like websites. But you can't expect people not to get pissed off about the noise, if they're not fans of the activity.

And if it drives potential noise complainers away from moving into to the new development, then that's a good thing for everybody.

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...

There is a guy near MCAS New River that calls the base operations every night to complain. I know this because the tenet squadrons have a rotating duty in base operations during night flights.

This idiot built his house at the end of a runway of one of the most used helicopter out lying fields (old WW2 style A frame with a bunch of fields for CALs). If you spent ten minutes near where he lives at any time of day you'd be over flown by some kind of helicopter.

Now that being said a four-ship of MV-22s at 150 feet over your house at midnight, every night would either drive you insane or collapse your house eventually.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Again, Torts took him to a very high mountain and showed him Nationwide and all its splendor.

"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will lay down and block for me." -Jackets 15:16




The first word which caught my attention glancing over that page is "incompetant". Why doesn't this guy bitch about the threat of removing cars from the beaches in Volusia County? Also:

quote:

To All You Gay Epic/ERIK Flyers
that seem to have to invade Massey Airpark 2 and 3 at a time

I bet they are having a gay time flying airplanes. As a straight male, I had gay times flying airplanes from time to time. Touch and goes are fun as hell, especially with a little bit of a crosswind, but not to the point where "I ran out of rudder" is an uttered phrase. I'm looking for a fun female who wants to have gay times with me in an airplane.

quote:

Q: What do you see when an Epic/ERIK flight instructor bends over?
A: A cockpit

God drat.

I've probably told this story before, but our training partner had some NIMBY complaints a few years ago about airport operations for an airport which opened in the 1940s. They shut the hell up when the airport director (and maybe the FBO owner, can't remember) said "You REALLY want to get the lawyers involved?"

i am kiss u now
Dec 26, 2005



College Slice

I used to live right at the 27 approach end of KSAN and then right next to MCAS Miramar. Talk about jet noise (living next to KSAN was cool though, I could grab my scanner, go out on the balcony and watch the planes land from my 12th story apartment). I think most people get used to it after a while. I got to the point where I could sleep with all the windows open well into jet operation times and outside of noise abatement procedures. These people have literally nothing better to do with their time and just want something to complain about.

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?

I lived a mile from KTUS and would sit outside on the edge of the wasteland and watch A-10s all day. I miss it.

Rickety Cricket
Jan 6, 2011

I must be at the nexus of the universe!

For an OP update, got my CFII back in December and Commercial Multi in Feb.

Also got my class date for the airlines! End of July I'll be off to CTP school for the ATP written. What a journey it's been.

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?

Has anyone here done the CTP training for the ATP written?

Just curious about what it's like, I may end up doing it next year. It's not necessary but I want my ATP drat it.

vessbot
Jun 17, 2005
I don't like you because you're dangerous

I wrote this about my experience at CAE. Since it's all FAA approved curriculum material, it's bound to be similar anywhere else you go for it.

It's 4 days of classroom and 3 sim sessions. The sims are introduction/familiarization, nothing is checked and it is literally impossible to fail. There is a short and easy written at the end of the classroom section, corrected to 100%. (There has been some confusion in at least 1 guy's 135 clueless employer thinking this is the ATP written, which it is most certainly not!) Everything is presented as an introduction to general airline/jet concepts for someone coming out of Cessnas and Seminoles. Absolutely no preparation is needed, and I would recommend to anyone to put 100% of their study time into ATP written prep (such as Sheppard, ASA, etc.) which is actually long and hard. The classroom work is not prep for the ATP written, other than some naturally occurring coincidences given the subject matter. To be clear, it's the "ATP-CTP" course, and at the end you get a certificate which is a prerequisite to take the ATP written. Yes, the written is scheduled and done completely on your own. CAE can recommend a few testing centers nearby, but has no relationship with them and easier for most people to do it where you live.

vessbot fucked around with this message at 03:53 on May 28, 2017

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?

I've taken the ATP written and passed it easily, it's just since expired. If that's the hardest part It sounds like I'm golden, considering I interned at flight safety and have like a thousand hours in a sim.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005



It's a whooole lot easier to ignore noise complaints now that somebody did some basic data analysis and showed that, as an example, 80% of all the complaints to Reagan National were from the same loving guy calling 19x every day.

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005


Alaska announced they're starting service out of Paine Field in 2018, and one of the first comments when the story was posted on their internal website was from an Alaska flight attendant complaining about the increased noise over her house.

WTF?

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013



Grimey Drawer



Ain't gonna lie, if I won the lottery, I'd go to the states, get a PPL, get a plane (preferably the noisiest I could manage) and fly a big rear end banner from the back of it saying "eat poo poo NIMBYs" until they had to bring me down with AA fire.

The Slaughter
Jan 28, 2002

cat scratch fever

vessbot posted:

I wrote this about my experience at CAE. Since it's all FAA approved curriculum material, it's bound to be similar anywhere else you go for it.

It's 4 days of classroom and 3 sim sessions. The sims are introduction/familiarization, nothing is checked and it is literally impossible to fail. There is a short and easy written at the end of the classroom section, corrected to 100%. (There has been some confusion in at least 1 guy's 135 clueless employer thinking this is the ATP written, which it is most certainly not!) Everything is presented as an introduction to general airline/jet concepts for someone coming out of Cessnas and Seminoles. Absolutely no preparation is needed, and I would recommend to anyone to put 100% of their study time into ATP written prep (such as Sheppard, ASA, etc.) which is actually long and hard. The classroom work is not prep for the ATP written, other than some naturally occurring coincidences given the subject matter. To be clear, it's the "ATP-CTP" course, and at the end you get a certificate which is a prerequisite to take the ATP written. Yes, the written is scheduled and done completely on your own. CAE can recommend a few testing centers nearby, but has no relationship with them and easier for most people to do it where you live.

Typical FAA that this is part of their "fix" for the Buffalo crash. What a joke... I'm so glad I had a grandfathered ATP written and beat the deadline.
In other news, I missed upgrade by 3 numbers today. Three. Went to a 5/21 hire and I'm 6/4. Damnit. But, supposedly we're upgrading 16 a month now, sooo.... hopefully won't be too much longer to wait if the music continues.

Rickety Cricket
Jan 6, 2011

I must be at the nexus of the universe!

I'll be doing an in-house CTP for my airline

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011



shame on an IGA posted:

It's a whooole lot easier to ignore noise complaints now that somebody did some basic data analysis and showed that, as an example, 80% of all the complaints to Reagan National were from the same loving guy calling 19x every day.

Denver is the same way, something like 99% of the noise complaints are 2 or 3 people, a majority of which are one dude that calls like 10-15 times a day.

KodiakRS
Jul 11, 2012



Who the hell is complaining about Denver? The airport was built waaaay out in the middle on nowhere on purpose. Partially to avoid noise complaints.

AWSEFT posted:

Have a great buddy whose dad owned an MU2. He always tells me how awesome an airplane it is and how much he likes it. Years later he told me it was the MU2 that killed his dad.

The MU2 really is the motorcycle of the aviation world isn't it? The people who fly them insist they're great planes and not at all dangerous if you know what you're doing but the accident statistics tell an entirely different story.

KodiakRS fucked around with this message at 15:13 on May 28, 2017

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005



Fun Shoe

Carth Dookie posted:

Ain't gonna lie, if I won the lottery, I'd go to the states, get a PPL, get a plane (preferably the noisiest I could manage) and fly a big rear end banner from the back of it saying "eat poo poo NIMBYs" until they had to bring me down with AA fire.

Bonus points if you get something like a Harvard that at max rpm can break the sound barrier with the prop tips and become really incredibly loud, like louder than anything with pistons has the right to be.

MrYenko
Jun 17, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...


I feel like areas with really bad noise complaint issues need to have annual Lear 23/707-120 flybys, to remind them of the bad old days.

vessbot
Jun 17, 2005
I don't like you because you're dangerous

Like the 727 "Whisperjet?"

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Again, Torts took him to a very high mountain and showed him Nationwide and all its splendor.

"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will lay down and block for me." -Jackets 15:16



i am kiss u now posted:

I used to live right at the 27 approach end of KSAN and then right next to MCAS Miramar. Talk about jet noise (living next to KSAN was cool though, I could grab my scanner, go out on the balcony and watch the planes land from my 12th story apartment). I think most people get used to it after a while. I got to the point where I could sleep with all the windows open well into jet operation times and outside of noise abatement procedures. These people have literally nothing better to do with their time and just want something to complain about.

We vacationed in Puerto Rico when I was a kid and stayed across the street from roughly the 1000-footers on Runway 8 at SJU. We were typically awakened by the howl of a Fine Air DC-8 setting takeoff power and/or the PRANG F-16s taking off in the morning. You'd get a little bit of everything there, from DC-3s to 747s and Convair 440s to L-1011s and DC-10s. Saw my first 777 there, too.

We had a balcony which allowed us to see the Eagle ATR ramp and a couple of the AA jet gates, as well as part of the runway. What was really fun was when we discovered the fire escape, which allowed us a better view from the roof of the building. I only saw reverse ops a handful of times but seeing a DL 767-300 pop up from behind the trees for the first time was very .

SJU also had the Aeroparque, which was a hangout on the airport property inside Runway 8. The place had a playground for kids and some picnic tables outside and an observation deck and bar on the second floor. Place would be packed on Sundays. Puerto Ricans seemed to love their airplanes.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Biscuit Hider

I've joked to friends and co-workers that what we need are a handful of people who phone up the airport a thousand times a year to complain that the airplanes aren't loud enough.

ausgezeichnet
Sep 18, 2005

In my country this is definitely not offensive!

Nap Ghost

MrYenko posted:

I feel like areas with really bad noise complaint issues need to have annual Lear 23/707-120 flybys, to remind them of the bad old days.

I grew up about eight miles south of O'Hare and vividly remember DC-8's and 707's (and Convair 880's ) flying over at about 5-6000 ft and all conversation ceased. Seriously, you couldn't yell over it. Brutally loud.

I'd love to see a Convair 880 low pass today. Four black smoke trails and loud enough that it can split molecules.

gently caress yeah!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTxi8V99614

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011



This is the most mid century thing I think I've ever seen. Noisy 4 hole TWA jetliner pouring black smoke taking off over a factory belching even more smoke with a clear smog layer, amazing.

foghorn
Oct 8, 2006

Haters gunna hate.


Oh hey, new thread. Long time lurker, figured I should add my name to the list.

Foghorn - KGTU ASEL PPL IR

Question: how bad is it getting a ferry permit? I have a PA28-180 whose annual is about to expire and I can't get it to my preferred mechanic (30 minute flight south) before the end of the month. Should I get the ferry permit? Or try a local mechanic instead? I suppose having a local guy is better, but my old mechanic already knows the plane inside and out, rebuilt some of it, and has very easy payment terms.

Also, I realize I should have figured this out ahead of time, but life happened.

Captain Apollo
Jun 24, 2003

King of the Pilots, CFI

I'm in texas and can fly it wherever tomorrow. I own a 180D. Where are you trying to get it?

foghorn
Oct 8, 2006

Haters gunna hate.


I've got it based at GTU but my mechanic is over at CVB. I was thinking I would have a CFI buddy fly me back and do an IPC at the same time.

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran

foghorn posted:

I've got it based at GTU but my mechanic is over at CVB. I was thinking I would have a CFI buddy fly me back and do an IPC at the same time.

That'a Apollo. He's a CFI, he can do your IPC, and he wants to be your buddy.

He'll even do it for no money, but not for free, .

Captain Apollo
Jun 24, 2003

King of the Pilots, CFI

So I'm doing an engine overhaul on my Cherokee 180. I've got a lycoming 360. Ask me any questions.

I am so tempted to also install dual Garmin g5s (AI and HSI) and a 430w and be ads-b compliant (fan USA thing).

However, I am also really tempted to just sell it all (after overhaul) and buy my dream airplane, an S or V35 Bonanza.....

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013



Grimey Drawer

How long have you been practicing medicine?

Captain Apollo
Jun 24, 2003

King of the Pilots, CFI

PhD, actually.

Dalrain
Nov 13, 2008

Experience joy,
Experience waffle,
Today.


Captain Apollo posted:


...and a 430w and be ads-b compliant (fan USA thing).

We just did this exercise on our club Cherokee 180, and we ended up deciding against the no-longer-in-sale GPS platform. You should do yourself a favor and price out a GTN650, it's amazing how close even a used 430w is in price. (In that the 430w is still worth huge money, almost the retail price of the brand new 650) The price delta between the two for our club plane was about 2k.

Also, if you're going to do this, do it NOW. Or at least get in line now. All the shops in northern California are booked out to September right now for this kind of work. The deadline to claim the ADS-B rebate is also September, +90 days to get the work done.

Edit: We skipped the G5, but that was just because ~money~, otherwise we would have gone that way too.

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?

Carth Dookie posted:

How long have you been practicing medicine?

I remember sitting in a bar in CO while the guy next to me bragged about his V-tail Banana. I asked him what kind of dentist he was and his friend lost it.

He was a root canal specialist. True story.

helno
Jun 19, 2003
hmm now were did I leave that plane

Captain Apollo posted:

So I'm doing an engine overhaul on my Cherokee 180. I've got a lycoming 360. Ask me any questions.

What occurred with your engine that pushed you to overhaul it?


Seconding the just get a GTN650 or a new Avidyne.

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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006
THE VOLKSWAGEN DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Question about airports with pilot-controlled lighting: is there a chance that some airports disable these systems after a certain time of night? On two consecutive flights, at two different airports, I've had trouble activating them. Last night, I know the system was working, because the lights were on as I was approaching the airport, and then turned off, evidently permanently, as I was inspecting the windsock. On both of those flights, when I've returned to my home airport (which uses the exact same type of system once the control tower is closed) the system worked exactly as expected, multiple times (I tested the dimming system, just to make sure I wasn't getting lucky for some reason).

It wasn't a distance thing either, because I was literally over the airport's beacon and I could see the runway.

It's strange, because I don't think I did anything wrong, I tried multiple times, yet I'm still at a loss as to why two separate airports would give me the same issue on two different days. The only thing I can think of is that it was quite late in both cases (night begins at 10:30PM here right now, so these would've both been after 11PM). I've done night landings at both airports in the past, during the winter when night started much earlier. Is there any other thing I could be overlooking?

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