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Gwent feels quite generous to me as well. I was particularly surprised when I hit level 10, tried a ranked game and was just showered in kegs for some reason.
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I'm pretty sure I'm bad at this game  If I recorded myself playing a game and posted it up, would anyone be willing to review it? We used to do this semi-regularly in the Hearthstone threads but maybe it's harder for Gwent..
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I guess I should have checked if I was set up to record before I asked. Had to wrestle with my terrible Australian internet and a busted microphone so excuse the quality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E2HQKYrn5o My current deck:  based off this but with only the default gold cards, and teched for low ranked metagame as best I could manage.I already noticed a few mistakes, especially with the reaver hunters at the end, but I'm sure there's more I was completely oblivious to. Very grateful for any help 
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Jun 8, 2017 15:00
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Minrad posted:Before I start, i'll just say: I'm personally not a fan of Foltest over Henselt. I think Foltest gives you a lot more reliability in winning round 3 and getting neneke value, and reavers are already excellent at winning round 1 usually. I also prefer mages w/ frost over light cavalary and kaedwani siege support, you have a lot more control over how turn 1 goes and how your deck gets thinned. This game in general is kind of weird because he concedes round 1 so early; in my experience round 1 is usually a much bigger struggle which is ideal for you to thin your deck more so you can draw into your combo pieces during round 2. Thanks for these comments, they're very helpful. I've held off on crafting Nenneke because I've seen several people refer to her being bugged - what's the issue there?
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Jun 8, 2017 18:26
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My experience is that Cavalry are almost more trouble than they're worth even with the Foltest/Siege Support synergies. I get that I'll see more explosive starts as I rank up and hence they'll come out more consistently, but yeah I'd be surprised if you stuck with them.
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Jun 8, 2017 18:53
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Just played a hilarious game. Dude was way ahead in round 3 and played Villetretenmerth, reasonably expecting my last 3 cards to be Reaver Hunters - except I never drew any. Instead they were two Reaver Scouts with no valid targets, and a Triss Merigold that I had to blast my own guy with to ensure Villetretenmerth couldn't hit it. Poor guy fried his own board and lost by a single point.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:38
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D.Ork Bimboolean posted:This is really the core of card advantage in any CCG. Disclaimer: I'm still pretty new, but I'm focusing on NR too and have been playing/watching a lot in the last week so I'll add my two cents: 1. I would play almost anything ahead of the Light Cavalry. Especially at low ranks and without Thaler, you really can't get them to proc consistently. Aretuza Adept+Torrential Rain+Blue Stripes Commando is a nice package that gives even more deck thinning, or Temerian Infantryman even. 2. Shani isn't played at all in a lot of the really high ranked NR decks. I certainly wouldn't craft her first, you already have decent golds. Operator/Reinforcement/Dethmold are way higher priority and some of your silvers suck balls. Probably even Cleaver would be an upgrade IMO.
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Jun 12, 2017 12:26
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Got nearly 4k scraps without any shenanigans at all, just milled everything that was nerfed. Pretty much enough to build one full deck, just got to make a good decision as to which one..
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Jun 13, 2017 14:13
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No Wave posted:Remember, at least until the open beta ends: Do NOT press that mill spare cards button! I just got 6000+ extra scrap because of the nerfed duplicates I could mill. Until I have at least one properly competitive deck I value 1000 scraps now over 2000 scraps later.
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Jun 13, 2017 14:43
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Why do people always leave Crones so late? A 20 power swing in round 1 is really nice and it has the added benefit of not loving up your later mulligans. Am I missing something?
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Jun 15, 2017 09:05
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http://www.gwentdb.com/decks/21943-wangid1 This deck got rank 1 recently and seems kinda neat. Or play Skellige.
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Jun 17, 2017 08:31
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Lester Shy posted:Did Spell Scoiatael get hit too hard by the recent nerfs to be viable? I just opened Ithlinne and I'm trying to decide if spending 1600 scrap to finish the deck is worth it. I haven't played a single Scioatael game, but I love annoying, non-interactive decks. It's strong enough for multiple players to reach top 10 with.
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Jun 21, 2017 11:49
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Dagon does pretty well against Skellige..
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Jun 22, 2017 09:59
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Consume Monsters is tier 1 IMO. Definitely is good against normal skellige, although axemen can be tricky. Vranmouth eat the eggs.
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Jun 24, 2017 02:49
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Cnidaria posted:Really the main problem with Nilfgaard is that it doesn't have the strength to be a top tier deck. thats.. kind of a big problem
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Jun 24, 2017 04:25
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Well the guy who just hit rank 1 heaped praise upon Ge'els. Another example of Big Twitch trying to control your thoughts? Or maybe.. it's actually good to pull a gold and a silver from your deck?
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Jun 26, 2017 01:16
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Magic Underwear posted:Are there any good decks that aren't going all in to win round 1? It's stupidly valuable because it makes spies really good and you control how long round 2 goes etc. I have this bad instinct of giving up round 1 for 1 CA and I'm getting screwed over. Semi-related but they really need to give some kind of bonus to the player that goes first in round 1. I heard a suggestion that the player that goes first r1 always goes second r3, it sounds good to me. Amusingly based on the first paragraph, the best way to beat Kambi is to win r1 and bleed them r2 until they're forced to use key combo cards.
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Jun 26, 2017 09:38
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For all the whinging, the game isn't in that bad a state from where I'm sitting. There are players of every faction at 4k mmr. Pretty sure it would take just a few well-placed tweaks to break things open.
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Jun 26, 2017 17:22
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So It Goes posted:I generally want less cards like crones and roach and the other blacklist cards in the game that have extremely high variance between the reward of being pulled from deck as a combo and the risk of being terrible if drawn. A lot of the best decks are always going to be the minefield of navigating risky mulligans. I know you can not play those cards but the point is a lot of them are so good you can't avoid playing them to climb ladder. I wouldn't mind more avallach type cards that can punish those builds and ideally make some of them less auto include.  Besides the frustrating RNG aspect, it also makes mulligans completely routine. There's no real decision-making involved in mulliganing Foglets or whatever, you just have to.
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Jun 26, 2017 18:56
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Subvisual Haze posted:D.Shackles also completely wreck her, which more and more decks are carrying now. I mean you're still 5 points up on the exchange, it's not that much of a blowout. Succubus is now a staple of Monsters decks and that's much worse to get shackled.
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Jun 26, 2017 19:12
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Jun 27, 2017 11:04
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MiddleOne posted:This current meta is so lame. ???
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Jun 27, 2017 11:23
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botany posted:Okay, I see. I'm not good enough either to say that one is better than the other, my reasoning was just that especially with all the deck thinning you should be able to draw into a witcher in R3 fairly reliably. I don't know, I might run your version a little bit and see how it works out. What is your typical R3 finisher? Witchers are your round 3 finisher, typically worth 26-29 points which can pretty easily win you the round even if you start a card down.
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Jun 27, 2017 12:42
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Currently watching a 37 card NR deck battle a Scoiatael player with Swallow Potion in his deck. Both players top 50 global. I don't think this game is figured out quite yet
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Jun 27, 2017 16:01
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At this point I'm like 99% sure Crones are a trap and should not be played. Getting one turn a few points above rate isn't worth half your silver slots and horrible mulligans.
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To expand on my last post and try to stimulate a bit of discussion (and brag a little I guess) I'll post my deck. It's not blazingly original but I haven't seen anything quite like it. from ~3k-3200 RIP nilfgaard I really like most of the choices in here. No crones means you can put in some nice tech silvers and I can play foglets+frost dogs while almost never having a really brutal mulligan. I don't see myself going back. Random notes:
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Jun 30, 2017 17:22
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Crones are good, but they would be better if every single deck wasn't all-in on winning round 1 at all costs. If you can pop them in round 1, having a crone in hand is basically an extra gold worth of points, but the way the mulligan system works can really gently caress you over hardcore going into r2 and 3, and especially if the opponent is running Avallc'h. Every silver I play besides Cyprian is really good, like i said BTM is absurd right now. Probably won 4-5 of those games off its strength alone. And crones wouldn't just force me to cut, say, Katakan and Fiend (which i don't want to do) but also the frost dogs that I really like. I actually am considering cutting a harpy and the fog for a third frost+dog, 5 power + frost + deck thinning is better than any other option I can think of. I have tried Caretaker, it's quite good. Whether it's better than Ciri I really don't know.
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No Wave posted:I certainly don't buy into the thinning argument for crones (thinning your deck of silvers to get to your... bronzes?) but their place in weather and consume makes sense. Both decks play cards that generate value over longer intervals (vran warrior, frost hounds, etc so getting 20 in one turn is reaply important if someone passes on you early. I wonder if it'd be crazy to play Toadgierd in weather monsters. Okay, I don't have any Nekkers to buff, but is that really such a big deal? Only problem is which other silver to cut besides Cyprian. I feel like my least favourite is Katakan, but that fills some of the gap Crones leave by being a big one-turn play (and can randomly hose Queensguard players, or eat a NR's witcher or something). Subvisual Haze posted:Bringing in crones and the foglets makes for such awkward round one mulligans. Awkward seems too mild - it's legitimately game-losing. Even when you don't draw into a second crone and go "whew, that went ok" all you did in your mulligan phase was not get completely screwed. It is actually nice to be able to shape your hand somewhat for the matchup.
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Quaint Quail Quilt posted:I know monsters is probably overpowered and overplayed I directly blame you dicks for shooting it into the ground you dicks, why has your net deck deck forsaken me, I haven't even looked at netdeck I've lost 4 out of 5. Now I'm going to have to play Griffin's and anti weather Karma weather and also weather. Do you... are you okay? Should we call someone? 
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Monsters are as good as Skellige right now.
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Electronico6 posted:Axemen, Shieldmaidens, Hjalmar, and renewed Hjalmar put Skellige a cut above still. This is a very popular view, but I don't know why. #1 on the ladder is a monsters player who got there on the back of making GBS threads on Axemen. The top 20 is full of monsters players. I personally climbed to rank 17 with weather monsters, with a positive winrate against every faction, and I know drat well that I played badly and lost more than a few games to boneheaded mistakes. Apparently losing to Monsters feels better to people somehow but it's just as nerf-worthy as far as I'm concerned. Succubus in particular is a hosed up card, apparently it was a meme before I started playing but it's a large-to-ridiculously-enormous point swing and there is no reliable counter to it. The most played deck isn't automatically the best deck. But fear not Skellige-haters, I'm pretty confident the faction is going to get poo poo on Nilfgaard style.
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Well those changes were pretty extreme holy moly.
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Consume isn't dead but it is a bit weaker abd NR was already a bad matchup.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:How is it weaker? And I've had mixed success against NR, it's not as rough as matchup as monster weather. Well, harpy and succubus are certainly nerfed. Most people were playing the hybrid version so Eredin/Dagon, Caranthir are also hurt. I suppose people will go back to playing the Unseen Elder pure consume version which may indeed be very good with weather so nerfed. I still think you're gonna get hosed by machines if NR is popular. King Pawn fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Jul 4, 2017 |
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Trogdos! posted:However, going from 1 card down to 2 down to win an otherwise tied round probably isn't going to end well for you. Well, you're probably playing the last round one card down either way. It really depends on the specific situation.
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After milling all of my nerfed cards I went to delete my old decks. The axemen deck had 6 cards left in it. I think it's dead.
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Superjj just got rank 1 with Unseen Elder consume monsters, ladder's gonna be stuffed with them for the next few days. What's good against that poo poo?
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Jul 6, 2017 16:46
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It got buffed a lot and people like Nilfgaard for whatever reason. The people netdecking really hard are either on consume monsters or Swim's spell dwarves thing.
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Trogdos! posted:I disagree that it got "buffed a lot". My reveal list gained a whopping 3 more total points and Bonhart's maximum potential was nerfed. Reveal was underrated and decent before the patch and continues to be just that, decent. People have just latched onto the next thing highlighted by the patch notes after turning their SK decks into scrap. Yeah, I put that poorly. Nilfgaard is the only faction I haven't really played yet so I was talking out of my rear end a bit. Why is Serrit not played, by the way? Just on the face of it the power level seems very high.
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