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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Jack2142 posted:

I think the problem with all the Battletech Games where you run into Lights v Assaults issues is simply the fact you have 4 slots total. If the choice was bringing in a lance of say Jenner's vs a single Atlas I could see the logic of going with the four light mechs.

In general it is the hard cap of drop slots and not tonnage which makes it kinda pointless to bring lights along once you get bigger stompy bots.

Total lance tonnage could help with this, but so could environments. Worlds where the soil, ice, foliage, etc mandates certain classes or at least severely restricts terrain could work.

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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Speaking of builds, beyond very basic/obvious stuff, where should I be focusing upgrades to the spaceship? Things that straight up make mech repairs faster make sense, but vague things like "power grid improved" don't really explain themselves.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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wiegieman posted:

If you get 3 parts and sell a completed mech, it will be worth a lot of money.

Fighting battles is my part time job. Mostly I run a used light/medium mech dealership.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Psykmoe posted:

Surprised to find out that this doesn't have drop tonnage limits. I loved MechCommander back in '98 and even that had missions with lower tonnage to force you into solving missions with something other than your four biggest mechs every so often.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see that later or in an expansion. It would help vary choices and gameplay.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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MadJackMcJack posted:

Back armour is essential for punchy mechs since survivors will inevitably run behind you to shoot.

Back armor goes on my punchers and my leeroy jenkins close-in laser hunchback. I really like my close-in laser hunchback and how he just jumpjets into the fray, shits lasers all over people, hopefully survives the next round, and gets the gently caress out of there or finishes up, as required.

On the rest, maybe enough to handle a medium laser hit or possibly two medium laser hits for the CT rear armor in case of speedy little scout-bots getting behind me.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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I just poo poo a billion lasers and missiles at everything I see. I score a hell of a lot more headshots than I receive. On the other hand, I don't yet have big blap-guns that just torch someone in a shot or two, so maybe that's why my death by a thousand pricks method lands more headshots.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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If you don’t cheese the game a lot it’s more fun.

Game is probably boring if you powergame and exploit it to max potential.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Lead out in cuffs posted:

I think that's very much intentional, and I get the impression it's fairly true to the spirit of the TT versions of the campaign rules (at least as implemented in MekHQ and the like).

:xcom:

Yeah, I watched a promotional play/interview video before buying and the developers were very clear on saying "sometimes, you just need to cut your losses and GTFO."

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Finally have a Kintaro, Wolverine, Hunchback, and obligatory Shadowhawk. Now I just need a Griffin to round out a line of premier 55T mediums. Meanwhile, a Thunderbolt and Dragon sit ignored in storage.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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ditty bout my clitty posted:

But isn't the thunderbolt a good mech?

I've had no problems with it, and used it as a pretty good brawler. I just got it way before the Kintaro, and so I want to try out all these mediums at once. Then again, I also just got a Black Knight and haven't even refit it yet, so maybe it's time to start running heavies.

Wolverine looks too good not to run it.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

Just once I'd like a mission to take out an enemy lance actually be facing a lance and not two or three :sigh:

More enemies? More salvage.*

*Make sure the salvage is not you

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Synthbuttrange posted:



hahahahah gently caress I'd completely forgotten what a tabletop Kintaro looks like.

TT Kintaro is sassy as gently caress

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Sensor lock probably will get long in the tooth, but removing evasion then breach-shotting someone is pretty satisfying.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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RIP Behemoth. You fought hard, but getting DFA'd then immediately rushed and punched by two more mechs is a lot to handle in one round.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Blazing Ownager posted:

God I wish I didn't miss this. I'm at like 40-1 and the 1 loss was a gimmick lance designed specifically to counter me by a friend and it was still razor close and more on me.

Dang, sucks you missed the chance to be super good in public.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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You’re never stuck. Bad pilots die. Then get new ones!

mlmp08
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When I lost Behemoth, nobody reacted even a little bit beyond a very generic status report that a mech was down.

I don't think Behemoth was popular with the crew.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Vigilance owns so much.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Ran into my first grasshopper and very neatly disabled it with most systems in tact. And then killed all its allies. Only lost some B-team recruit on the mission, which I'm fine with, given that it was a 2-skull mission that ended up being a multiple-Heavy and a lance of very capable medium mech ambush on my lance.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Got a grasshopper and strapped it full of MGs and lasers and charge into battle.

It kills stuff real good until I inevitably overextend and get loving creamed while my more sensible mechs haul the remains back to the drop ship.

Maybe I need a more reasonable load out and tactic.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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sandoz posted:

if your armor is maxed and you are using vigilance constantly you shouldn't have too many problems with it

I think my issue was I forgot to pop vigilance at the worst possible time.

I got bruised up in one mission using vigilance. When I forgot to use it as the reinforcements jumped me, it was a one way ticket to hosing rookie guts out of the cockpit and replacing a lot of limbs and systems.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Psion posted:

she never got targeted by a single one of those for me, position/evasion matters to their AI just like anything else



Same.

If anything I protected her so much that she was utterly untouched and I had to have her charge up to save one of my mechs that had been escorting her.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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If you don’t powergame correctly, I will post about it on the Internet.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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IOwnCalculus posted:

Second part of Grave Robber.

Hm. One vehicle left, I'll just DFA it.

LL destroyed

Enemy Mechs Spotted


Still pulled out a victory.

I finished that with 3 of 4 Alive, though Arano’s Atlas crosses the finish line with no arms and a limp. RIP Griffin redshirt, your suicidal DFA helped clinch the deal.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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BadOptics posted:

Dekker, PLEASE stop getting shot in the face.

Edit: The guy has to be like 85% metal at this point in my campaign.

That just makes him more dedicated.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Now that I'm a lot better at the game than when I first started out, injuries are pretty drat even across the board. The only one that felt like it was just a headshot taking machine is the Catapult, but that's probably just confirmation bias after a particularly long-range slugmatch where my Catapult-K2 and the enemy Catapult-K2 ate 2 headshots each in the course of maybe 4 rounds.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

I still don't understand how that ever saw the light of day :psyduck:

Sorry, all shows sucked back then, save a rare handful, and I used my meager childhood work earnings to buy Battletech toys despite us still being on food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches.

I had at least an AxMan, Mauler, and something that looked a lot like either a Jenner or Catapult. They typically faced off against various green army men with artillery and tank support or got knocked over by air power (and a dog).

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Asimov posted:

I found a ninja turtle action figure buried in the playground sandbox, and drat that was about the best day I ever had as a child with limited income.

I once used wax molding of a rich kid's toy combined with melting some scrap plastic in my back yard and then coloring it with markers to make a super janky copy of a licensed GI Joe toy.

In a moment of empathy, when he realized this, he just gave me a bunch of old DC comics toys to tide me over. So many batmans fought each other.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Emy posted:

For long range, that would be LRMs and AC/5s. Both have 3 missile hardpoints, though one is limited to a single-slot launcher due to being in the head. The 2H can actually fit two AC/5 thanks to having more ballistics hardpoints, but you're mostly limited by weight anyway, so it depends on how paper-thin you want to make your armor.

Yeah.

Catapults and black knights have made my shadow hawk more or less obsolete but twin AC/5s are really nice for a direct fire supporter.

And if that doesn’t work out, go punch someone!

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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I've had almost no trouble salvaging a every medium in the game, a fair mix of heavies, and now I have an assault (story) and 2/3 of two different assaults (procedural missions).

What I'm woefully light on is anything beyond a handful of + or ++ weapons. RNG or should I be central coring everyone if I want to scavenge better weapons instead of risking blowing up arms and shoulders?

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Catapult K-2 feels like it does the exact same thing as a Black Knight, except worse.

I got a Battlemaster and threw an AC-20 on it, but it mostly just blunders about while my Highlander, Black Knight, and Jäger to the real work.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Sounds like this is what happens after each battle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htiJY1lLhMg

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Multiple people who beat the game using very different tactics and mechanic and pilots: Your way is doomed to failure!

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Let me cash in morale or just c-bills for close air support.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Give me a really stupid looking support mech that squirts coolant on friendly mechs.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Cyrano4747 posted:

By the time you're even 300 days into the campaign it doesn't matter. You will max out your morale without even trying. If anything they need to tweak it so it decays over time and it's something you need to actively manage.

Yeah.

You can just overpay people early on in the campaign and it lasts forever.

:v: I am the new recruit! You hired me yesterday, because everyone on your staff is drat near dead and floating in Bacta tanks
:clint: Welcome. Tell me about how happy you are.
:v: I heard you paid people a lot of money a year ago, and thus I am super happy even though you pay me market rates now and threw me into your worst mech.
:clint: Good. Glad you're so happy for Good Economy Steves of this world.
:v: Can I get paid too?
:commissar:

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Chronojam posted:

I had a base defense where one building died on mission start. Still like the game though.

When you want your insurance fraud scam to look legit, you hire a lance and tell the insurers you really, really tried!

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Coming back to this game after a looooong hiatus with a new campaign and just played the Smithon campaign mission. I beat it first try, but ended the match with 3 of my pilots injured, every mech at least partially damaged, if not massively so, and almost out of ammo, just plinking away miserably at a couple of enemy similarly crippled mechs until I just DFA'd them.

What I'm saying is that lol, this owns.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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Welp, really enjoying this now that I'm back post multiple DLCs dropping in bonkers new poo poo. RIP to the two mechwarrior recruits I brought out to get "easy XP" and then promptly got one killed and one put in the hospital for like months on end while my veterans cleaned up the entirety of the enemy lance/convoy. Oops.

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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

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As someone who was away from the game for a long time and is romping around in mediums and encountering heavies now, what are some of the new funs that really shine?

In past games I ran a lot of SRM spam, PPC++s, and laser builds because cannons seemed meh aside from headhunting.

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