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ElwoodCuse posted:There is no goddamn asterisk this game was reffed exactly how cup final games have been for years The NHL expressly included a rule this year to avoid situations like the one we saw in the deciding game of the Cup Finals, then inexplicably declined to actually use it. Quick whistles happen and the breaks even out over the long run, but man that was a bad call given the circumstances. Two years ago it's just one of those things, today it's one of the most puzzling decisions in league history. The only reason I can think of that it wasn't reviewed and deemed a goal is that the league and/or refs forgot that was possible. I was a fairly neutral party leaning towards the Preds because I was a bit sick of repeat winners (but having nothing against the Pens), but man that was a bad, bad call. I wouldn't go far as to say there's an asterisk beside that win, but Preds fans certainly have a legitimate point of consternation with what transpired.
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ElwoodCuse posted:There is no goddamn asterisk this game was reffed exactly how cup final games have been for years The * is the fact that Preds fans will be talking about this poo poo for the rest of their lives, especially if they don't win one in the next few years.
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bump_fn posted:can we say the Penguins are a dynasty now no, they have to beat the Blackhawks in the finals which is something Pitt has been unable to do for the last 25 years
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Jun 12, 2017 16:50
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A dynasty is like three cup wins in four years isnt it
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Benson Cunningham posted:The * is the fact that Preds fans will be talking about this poo poo for the rest of their lives, especially if they don't win one in the next few years. 
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Benson Cunningham posted:The * is the fact that Preds fans will be talking about this poo poo for the rest of their lives, especially if they don't win one in the next few years. They had 5 powerplays plus Rinne grabbing Hags who based on Rinne's positioning was almost certainly gonna have a chance to score on the wrap. Terrible call for sure but it's not like they weren't given every chance and then some to get it back.
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In 2009 there was handwringing about calling the Red Wings a dynasty even thoughquote:Five Stanley Cup titles in 12 years. The Red Wings have won, on average, a Stanley Cup every 2.4 years since 1997. Thirty teams enter each season with the express hopes and dreams of winning Lord Stanley’s Cup and the Wings have had a shot in each of the last 18 postseasons, a truly remarkable accomplishment.
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funny Star Wars parody posted:A dynasty is like three cup wins in four years isnt it 3 in 4, and 2 have to be in a row. And then we change it again if either Pittsburgh or Chicago does that.
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I don't think we've had any true dynasties since the Islanders/Oilers in the 80s. Chicago and Pittsburgh are probably as close as you get in the modern era. If the Penguins win again next year, then yeah maybe.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I don't think we've had any true dynasties since the Islanders/Oilers in the 80s. Chicago and Pittsburgh are probably as close as you get in the modern era. If the Penguins win again next year, then yeah maybe. I think 3 in 4 would get them that status. Doesn't have to be 3 in a row.
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Ginette Reno posted:They had 5 powerplays plus Rinne grabbing Hags who based on Rinne's positioning was almost certainly gonna have a chance to score on the wrap. Terrible call for sure but it's not like they weren't given every chance and then some to get it back. Sure, but they had a clear goal taken from them, and they were given a bunch of opportunities to score another. It's not the same. You're free to disagree obviously, but for me this one feels a little different than 09 or 16.
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Ginette Reno posted:I think 3 in 4 would get them that status. Doesn't have to be 3 in a row. Yeah I agree, 3 in 4 for Pittsburgh would make them a dynasty in my mind. That's why I can't say Chicago is a dynasty. 3 in 5 is obviously insanely good, but no sequential wins.
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Benson Cunningham posted:Sure, but they had a clear goal taken from them, and they were given a bunch of opportunities to score another. It's not the same. I mean if you can't enjoy a cup win based off of one bad call that's too bad. Jamwad Hilder posted:Yeah I agree, 3 in 4 for Pittsburgh would make them a dynasty in my mind. That's why I can't say Chicago is a dynasty. 3 in 5 is obviously insanely good, but no sequential wins. Lot of roster turnover too which is kinda why you need the sequential wins. The first Chicago cup team was obviously much different from the third one.
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Ginette Reno posted:I mean if you can't enjoy a cup win based off of one bad call that's too bad. No poo poo I'm going to enjoy it, but if you don't get why the circumstances under which the last game ended suck I don't know how I can explain it to you any better.
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bump_fn posted:can we say the Penguins are a dynasty now Yes.
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mastershakeman posted:no, they have to beat the Blackhawks in the finals which is something Pitt has been unable to do for the last 25 years Except for that SCF sweep the Pens handed them
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Except for that SCF sweep the Pens handed them Look at this guy who sucks at math AND getting jokes
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gently caress YOU.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Look at this guy who sucks at math AND getting jokes Oh word? Seems my math is exact, humorless apologist
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ive been waiting for someone to post this picture and i'm hurt anyways
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the last time the blackhawks and the penguins met in the scf there was a terrorist attack and a helicopter crashed into the arena so despite the potential ratings bonanza i think that probably spooked the nhl from rigging things to make the two teams meet in the final again
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Congrats to the Pens...in some ways it's a little amazing it took them this long between their first cup with Crosby and Malkin and these past two cups, just considering how much of a head start having two generational talents on the team gives you. Once they finally spent a little time getting a few good young players drafted and developed and made a few smart trades it really kicked things into gear. On the other hand, their cup wins seem a little funny in how they were able to buck the possession stat trend and win by being a counter punching force with some mediocre D (this season at least). But again that goes back to having two generational talents in your forward group. I think all the "what can we learn from the Pens!" articles that are already coming out basically need to start with "first you need some exceptional forwards" because for all the focus on speed and etc about the Pens, you still need guys skilled enough to put the puck in the net. At any rate, interesting how it shook out from one perspective but kind of boring from another in that it'd have been a lot more fun for everyone not a Pens fan to see Nashville win.
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Levitate posted:Congrats to the Pens...in some ways it's a little amazing it took them this long between their first cup with Crosby and Malkin and these past two cups, just considering how much of a head start having two generational talents on the team gives you. Once they finally spent a little time getting a few good young players drafted and developed and made a few smart trades it really kicked things into gear. I mean it helps that the past two years they fell rear end backwards into a superstar goalie and a young borderline star scorer. Especially Murray. I don't know if people appreciate just how good Murray is. He's kinda taken for granted a bit considering the team he's on but he's an elite goalie.
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I'm happy with this result, having been a Pens fan as long as I can remember. Lot of guys I work with are pretty salty, and straight up hate Crosby, but whatever. I'd be happy for the Preds if they had won, fwiw.
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Ginette Reno posted:I mean it helps that the past two years they fell rear end backwards into a superstar goalie and a young borderline star scorer. Especially Murray. I don't know if people appreciate just how good Murray is. He's kinda taken for granted a bit considering the team he's on but he's an elite goalie. Nobody who saw him in the playoffs this year should doubt his legitimacy. Having two credible #1 goalies you can pick from is just huge.
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Ginette Reno posted:I mean it helps that the past two years they fell rear end backwards into a superstar goalie and a young borderline star scorer. Especially Murray. I don't know if people appreciate just how good Murray is. He's kinda taken for granted a bit considering the team he's on but he's an elite goalie. My theory is that Matt Murray will probably continue to be overlooked as an elite goalie because he has a dull name, a dull and ugly face and no noticeable personality. He's really awesome though.
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Jun 12, 2017 18:03
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If Matt Murray is elite this season then so is Jimmy Howard.
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Ginette Reno posted:I mean it helps that the past two years they fell rear end backwards into a superstar goalie and a young borderline star scorer. Especially Murray. I don't know if people appreciate just how good Murray is. He's kinda taken for granted a bit considering the team he's on but he's an elite goalie. Yeah, you guys got ridiculously lucky that MAF played as well as he did until he finally turned into a pumpkin, but by that time Murray was all ready to go.
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WOO HOO THE PITTSBURGH PENGUINS HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP! I've been smiling like a butcher's dog all morning. But this: This is not cool, dude.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Yeah I agree, 3 in 4 for Pittsburgh would make them a dynasty in my mind. That's why I can't say Chicago is a dynasty. 3 in 5 is obviously insanely good, but no sequential wins.
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This was the first Cup finals where I wanted both teams to win since, like... Actually, this has never happened since I started watching hockey in the early-90s.
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I'm excited that Thunder Bay, ON could get it's 2nd HOFer if Murray continues the career trajectory he appears to be on
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The last dynasty was Edmonton.
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https://twitter.com/SNFaizalKhamisa/status/874324497993801728
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https://twitter.com/renlavoietva/status/874330582632861697 !!!
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He's got three Cups, everyone saw how good he was in the playoffs and Murray is obviously "The Guy" in Pittsburgh. I'm surprised this didn't come out earlier.
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Duckman2008 posted:Preds Defensemen as well right? I don't think they can protect all 4. They can and are. They're locked up.
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The Pittsburgh Penguins Have Won The Stanley Cup
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