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appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

Yeah Ground RB just auto does the little brackets if you vaguely look near a plane now. Same as in Air RB when you hit like "x" or whatever on a plane to target it for callouts.

Kinda weird, i guess it's from all the "BAN PLANES PLANES OP" from German mains?

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hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Yeah it’s a stupid new thing, aircraft now have a oval bracket thing around them that ignores any sort of line of sight

Fuckin gaijin

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013

Warbadger posted:

Not when you lock them. Just always on for everything in the air. That's definitely new with this patch.

Well that's bullshit!

Xerxes17
Feb 17, 2011

Wait, that's an intentional change and not a bug?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

dialhforhero posted:

Rank II is solid but the overall choice of toys, ammo, and balance is best expanded by rank III.

2/3rds of my rank 3 matches end up in the 4s. That's always fun.

Though I feel worse for that poor player with 1 tank in a higher tier and is running around in a reserve tank at the end.

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013

Xerxes17 posted:

Wait, that's an intentional change and not a bug?

It definitely could be either one of those!

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Fortuitously the flying Panzer was never put into full production

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

twistedmentat posted:

2/3rds of my rank 3 matches end up in the 4s. That's always fun.

Yeah, extra fun when you're doing a GE wager. I always had issues with the 3s being uptiered if I picked anything other than the lowest BR tanks in that tier. That 0.2 extra BR meant that I was usually fighting guys who were running a lowest possible 4 Tier BR lineup. I know there is wiggle room with the matchmaking, but (for me), playing 3 means I'm ending up as someone's seal to club.

Luitpold
Aug 2, 2009
Talking of excrement ...
Every time i've gone into the goon discord for this game I've never found anyone that wanted to play, or they wanted to only play tanks which I have no real interest in. I just wanna do planes and navy poo poo once in awhile. Maybe I'm just looking at the wrong times and time zones? I'd love to play with other goons but so far no luck 1 year on.

Zipline
May 9, 2013
Some quality MEXAS skins hitting the fansites

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️
Man sometimes I am okay at this game and most times I suck poo poo. There is definitely a time and day NOT to play this game.

Mazz
Dec 12, 2012

Orion, this is Sperglord Actual.
Come on home.

dialhforhero posted:

Man sometimes I am okay at this game and most times I suck poo poo. There is definitely a time and day NOT to play this game.

3 losses in a row is usually my que to :getout:. It's generally a sign that poo poo is not going to go your way that day and any further will just make you angry at a video game.

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

heh heh heh YES

https://giant.gfycat.com/AffectionateLikableAmericanavocet.webm

Stevefin
Sep 30, 2013

The KV tanks have got a really huge buff with the new shell system, a lot of the weakspots are now immunity zones

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Stevefin posted:

The KV tanks have got a really huge buff with the new shell system, a lot of the weakspots are now immunity zones

Turret ring?

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

I think all the turret ring weak spots are gone now. Or like you can break the turret ring, but the shell won’t get inside.

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013
That's been my experience so far, too. Though I'm still getting some very silly shots. For example, I killed a Panzer IV/70 from the front by shooting it under the gun at close range, using the AMX-13 FL11.

Stevefin
Sep 30, 2013

The bottom corners of the turret cheeks are also pretty much unpenable since the shell hitbox is bigger now for KV1s

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
I had my first ever B-25 vs B-25 head on today at ~4500 meters. I'm glad to announce I flew away with zero damage somehow and the other person had an engine & wing on fire. Not entirely sure why their gunners didn't return fire at all as we almost kissed fuselages (passed over them with about a 20m clearance) so I assume they were all dead too. All I know is my tail gunner went to town.

Turning around to role play my B-25 was actually a P-47 I was delighted to find I had a surprise friendly fighter escort who finished them off. Nice way to start a match.

To be clear this is highly unusual for me lol


Edit - this is all bullshit. I watched the replay day after and totally missed 2 fighters swooping in immediately afterwards. I was useless as usual and didn't even cause the engine fire. Oh well!

DancingShade fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Sep 8, 2020

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Stevefin posted:

The KV tanks have got a really huge buff with the new shell system, a lot of the weakspots are now immunity zones

Weird, I'm finding mine gets wrecked constantly by Shermans and pzivs

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

Got a mixed battle and took close to 20+ hits as a 3.7 T-34, just waggling around. Liking this no more turret neck pixel poo poo.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

appropriatemetaphor posted:

Got a mixed battle and took close to 20+ hits as a 3.7 T-34, just waggling around. Liking this no more turret neck pixel poo poo.

I feel it's going to rehabilitate the M60A2 a bit, as well.

Zipline
May 9, 2013
Going by the dates of 2017, 2018, and 2019's various sales, we can expect 2020's anniversary sale to run Oct 26th - Nov 8th, followed by the Black Friday/Cyber Monday sale Nov 27th - 30th, and the Christmas/New Years sale Dec 26th - Jan 1st. Given that almost everything will be on 50% discount (SL, GE, and packs), and special packs will be made available, what are you planning to buy?

For veterans, what recommendations for purchases do you have for newer players? Any specific vehicles to look out for? Anything we shouldn't overlook, like decals or crew experting costs?

Mazz
Dec 12, 2012

Orion, this is Sperglord Actual.
Come on home.
Get a Ru 251 if you haven’t (and play tanks). Good tank that will prep you for high tier poo poo while being a lot of fun to play. Leos are all basically improved 251s all the way up to 10.0. Only real weakness is it lacks a stabilizer but most things do at 6.7.


Also always buy as much premium time as you can when It’s 50% off. It’s a very reasonable deal then if you play the game at all regularly.

Mazz fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Sep 9, 2020

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


Yeah the 251 basically prints SL. Totally worth it on sale.

Dr.Radical
Apr 3, 2011
I’m thinking of getting a year of premium when the sale hits. Getting into the higher tier jets takes a way longer for me and some of the repair costs slow me down (F11-1F).

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


Premium time is definitely super worth it. For SL printers (and lower tier airplane research) consider the Japanese Corsair, and the US and Chinese Zeros (said Zeros sitting at 3.3 and tier 3 so you can even do event tasks in them).

For tanks you should pick up the T-III (the Soviet captured Pz 3), because it gives you a hammer and sickle decal.

Vorenus
Jul 14, 2013

dialhforhero posted:

Man sometimes I am okay at this game and most times I suck poo poo. There is definitely a time and day NOT to play this game.

Friendly reminder that after 2AM EST or so you have drastically higher chances of encountering Chinese players whose high ping and skill DLCs will let them kill you in obnoxious ways.

Mazz posted:

Get a Ru 251 if you haven’t (and play tanks). Good tank that will prep you for high tier poo poo while being a lot of fun to play. Leos are all basically improved 251s all the way up to 10.0. Only real weakness is it lacks a stabilizer but most things do at 6.7.


Also always buy as much premium time as you can when It’s 50% off. It’s a very reasonable deal then if you play the game at all regularly.

I absolutely love the 251 but highly recommend targeting ammo racks as in my experience the HEATFS post-pen damage is wildly inconsistent. Then again, what in this game isn't inconsistent? (other than bad pubbies)

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013
Another thing to consider with the upcoming sale is talismans, since those will be 50% off too. Sometimes the best premium is one you make yourself! This is especially true at higher tiers, when a lot of premiums are very expensive but not necessarily good enough to be worth money.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


Yeah I'm still trying to decide if I slap a talisman on the T-62 or the T-72A because both are fun as hell.

Leaning towards the 62 because 8.3 seems to be the more fun "complete" tier for the Soviets. T-62/BMP-2/T-55A/T-10/Shilka/Mi-4AV. One hell of a lineup.

Zipline
May 9, 2013

Solumin posted:

Another thing to consider with the upcoming sale is talismans, since those will be 50% off too. Sometimes the best premium is one you make yourself! This is especially true at higher tiers, when a lot of premiums are very expensive but not necessarily good enough to be worth money.

What is a good rule of thumb for buying talismans? I haven't bought any before and am considering putting one on my favorite tank, the T-44, but since that's 6.3 a talisman on it will be essentially pointless if I have all the tanks in the rank above already researched, right?

Mazz posted:

Also always buy as much premium time as you can when It’s 50% off. It’s a very reasonable deal then if you play the game at all regularly.

How many years at a time do you buy? I was planning on getting 1, but I mean, do you recommend more?

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


Zipline posted:

What is a good rule of thumb for buying talismans? I haven't bought any before and am considering putting one on my favorite tank, the T-44, but since that's 6.3 a talisman on it will be essentially pointless if I have all the tanks in the rank above already researched, right?


How many years at a time do you buy? I was planning on getting 1, but I mean, do you recommend more?

Given the frequency of sales there's no point getting more than a year at a time.

In terms of talismans yeah, you do have to keep mind there's a harsh penalty for RP when researching a vehicle more than a tier above/below the vehicle being used.

IMO the sweet spot is T5 or low T6 for talismans since everything below that is sub 100k RP and doesn't take much time at all to research with premium. Also consider a BR with multiple decent vehicles. Ex: I talismaned the BMP-1 because it's fun as hell but also at 7.3 I can slot in the IS-3 and the 7.0 T-44-100 is still competitive.

Mr Luxury Yacht fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Sep 9, 2020

Mazz
Dec 12, 2012

Orion, this is Sperglord Actual.
Come on home.

Zipline posted:

What is a good rule of thumb for buying talismans? I haven't bought any before and am considering putting one on my favorite tank, the T-44, but since that's 6.3 a talisman on it will be essentially pointless if I have all the tanks in the rank above already researched, right?


How many years at a time do you buy? I was planning on getting 1, but I mean, do you recommend more?

Just a year. Sales are 2-3 times a year so you can refill early but a year is the best bang for your buck assuming you plan to play for a decent portion of the year. The best part about a year though is you can walk away for a couple months and patches and come back and still have a ton of time left. It doesn’t take too long to justify the $40 on grind time saved too assuming you’re not too strapped for cash (in which case don’t spend it on lovely F2P games in general).

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013

Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

Given the frequency of sales there's no point getting more than a year at a time.

In terms of talismans yeah, you do have to keep mind there's a harsh penalty for RP when researching a vehicle more than a tier above/below the vehicle being used.

IMO the sweet spot is T5 or low T6 for talismans since everything below that is sub 100k RP and doesn't take much time at all to research with premium. Also consider a BR with multiple decent vehicles. Ex: I talismaned the BMP-1 because it's fun as hell but also at 7.3 I can slot in the IS-3 and the 7.0 T-44-100 is still competitive.

I agree with this. I put a talisman on the AMX-30 (1972) because it's a great tank that is both better and cheaper to talisman than the premium version. My second one is on the AMX-32 because it helps grinding the Leclerc and all the expensive tier 4, 5 and 6 tanks.

Zipline
May 9, 2013
Input on my sale plan? Drew it up based on comments in this thread so far, but open to changes.

Buy for $$$:
1 year premium
M4A1 FL10 French autoloader Sherman to grind France from current 5.3 to 7.7, plus it’s Egyptian which is nifty
T-55AM-1 to grind Soviets to top tier
AMX 30 Super to grind France to top tier

Buy for SL:
USSR 8.3 lineup (currently grinding Object 268, T-62, Object 906, BMP-2, IT-1, and T-10M in that order)
China 5.7 lineup (currently grinding IS-2, ISU-152, ISU-122, M36 in that order)
Italy 6.3 lineup (currently grinding FIAT 6614 and AUBL/74 in that order)
German 5.3 lineup if I have time before the sale (still grinding Jagdpanzer IV, Ostwind, Sturer Emil, Tiger H1, Panther D, Panzer IV/70, and Nashorn in that order)
USA 5.7 lineup, again if I have time (grinding M4A3E2, M18, M4A2 76 W, M4A3 76 W, and M36 in that order)
AH-1G
Expert USSR GRB crews at 4.3 and 6.3, Chinese GRB crews at 5.7 (and maybe 4.0?), Italian GRB crews at 3.7, Swedish AAB crews at 3.7

Buy for GE:
T20 perhaps, it seems fun
T14 as again, it seems fun and isn’t too expensive
BV-238 as it looks pretty cool
T-126 and T-35 for the same reason

I’d like to talisman some vehicles but I’m not sure what. Any suggestions? Or any other notable national lineups I should look to Expert? Should I buy some GE to invest in crew XP perhaps?


Solumin posted:

I put a talisman on the AMX-30 (1972) because it's a great tank that is both better and cheaper to talisman than the premium version. My second one is on the AMX-32 because it helps grinding the Leclerc and all the expensive tier 4, 5 and 6 tanks.

In that case do you recommend not even buying the AMX 30 Super and instead talismaning those tanks when I eventually get them?

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
I have a few, items i am waiting for the sale to buy for SL





plus uh the t72 bmksjks

Solumin
Jan 11, 2013

Zipline posted:

Input on my sale plan? Drew it up based on comments in this thread so far, but open to changes.

Buy for $$$:
M4A1 FL10 French autoloader Sherman to grind France from current 5.3 to 7.7, plus it’s Egyptian which is nifty
AMX 30 Super to grind France to top tier

In that case do you recommend not even buying the AMX 30 Super and instead talismaning those tanks when I eventually get them?

Upfront, I have to say I've never driven the AMX-30 Super myself. I really do like the AMX-30 family in general, and the Super is probably the best one of those because it actually has a stabilizer. The APFSDS round is really quite nice at ~360 mm pen, too. However, it doesn't have much of a lineup, just the AMX-30 B2 BRENUS and the AMX-30 ACRA at 8.7, or the AMX-32 at 9.3, and I'm not sure the chassis really holds up at 9.0.

On the other hand, it costs $60 (or $30 if you get it on sale) which is more than enough to buy a talisman for the AMX-30 (1972) and the AMX-32 or -40.
Personally, I don't think it's worth the money, though if it was cheaper I'd consider as a lineup filler for the AMX-32/AMX-40. Considering how much grinding you're apparently planning to do, I'd say save your money and get talismans on those two tanks later. If you'd rather be able to get dug into high-tier France now, then buy the Super.

Besides that, the M4A1 FL10 is a fantastic purchase. I actually used it to grind France from reserve to tier 4.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


The SL booster that comes with a premium talisman can be pretty clutch in high tier if you play tanks exclusively. The lower rewards means that SL can be an issue in T6 and up.

WirelessPillow
Jan 12, 2012

Look Ma, no wires!
I'm seeing a lot of mention of Sale, how do people know one is coming?

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mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




WirelessPillow posted:

I'm seeing a lot of mention of Sale, how do people know one is coming?

They've done sales at roughly the same times three years running.

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