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Party Bug
Mar 13, 2008

SALT BECOMES EMPOWERMENT

> LATEST UPDATE: Woodpunk

Welcome to the roguelite thread.

In this thread, once a week, a roguelite game will be chosen by popular vote and I will (probably) make as informative a playthrough of it as I can, given the time allowed. Generally one video per game, but possibly more if the game is worth showing off.


What is a roguelite, roguelikelike, or a roguelikelikelikelike?
Games that fall into the roguelite genre can (generally) be boiled down to a set of four criteria:

- Composed of procedurally generated content
- Features perma-death
- Focus on non-tile / turn based gameplay.
- Is not the game Rogue

Obviously this leaves a lot of room for different genres and types of games, so it's sort of a wide umbrella. Spelunky, Binding of Isaac, and Rogue Legacy are three popular examples of the roguelite genre that everyone is probably aware of.

Wasn't this The Swindle thread?
The thread has transcended into a higher state to better serve mankind.

Voting
Check the latest update in the thread to see what game is being voted on, I'm too lazy to update it here.

Updates


The Swindle: Days 1 - 5
The Swindle: Days 6 - 9
The Swindle: Days 10 - 12
The Swindle: Days 13 - 15
The Swindle: Days 16 - 17
The Swindle: Days 18 - 20
The Swindle: Days 21 - 22
The Swindle: Day 23


Flinthook (1/?)
Flinthook (2/?)


The Binding of Isaac (1/1)


Necropolis (1/2)


Neurovoider (1/1)


Slayer Shock (1/2)
Slayer Shock (2/2)


Nongunz (1/4)
Nongunz (2/4)
Nongunz (3/4)
Nongunz (4/4)


Out There Ω (1/1)


Cryptark (1/3)
Cryptark (2/3)
Cryptark (3/3)


Not The Robots


Spelunky


Renowned Explorers (1/3)
Renowned Explorers (2/3)
Renowned Explorers (3/3)


Dungeon Souls - The Archer (1/3)
Dungeon Souls - The Barbarian (2/2)
Dungeon Souls - The Rogue (3/3)


Has Been Heroes


Super House of Dead Ninjas


Okhlos: Omega


Caveblazers (1/?)


Gloom


Receiver


Noir Syndrome


Monstrum


Risk of Rain


Overfall


Sunless Sea


Kingsway (1/3)


Leap of Fate (1/4)


Moon Hunters


Strafe (1/2)
Strafe (2/2)


Blazing Beaks


Heat Signature


Ascendant


Convoy (1/2)
Convoy (2/2)


Vintage Year


Galak-Z: The Void


Deep Sky Derelicts


Spartan Fist


Legend of Dungeon


Bombslinger


Nuclear Throne


City of Brass (1/?)
City of Brass (2/2)


Everspace (1/4)
Everspace (2/4)
Everspace (3/4)
Everspace (4/4)


Brut@l


Abandon Ship (1/2)
Abandon Ship (1/2)


Cthon


In Celebration of Violence


The Swords of Ditto (1/2)
The Swords of Ditto (2/2)


Wizard of Legend


Monolith


The Little Slime


Ruin of the Reckless


Woodpunk

Party Bug fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Dec 22, 2018

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Party Bug
Mar 13, 2008

SALT BECOMES EMPOWERMENT
Reserved for effort posting.

Bozart
Oct 28, 2006

Give me the finger.
pbug how are you so adorable

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Liking the look of The Swindle. The music's good. I get kind of a Gunpoint vibe from it, although Gunpoint did more with hacking.

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost
This game looks pretty neato, I might pick it up if it continues to tickle my fancy.

I'm a sucker for roguelites.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Procedural generation is capable of supporting a lot more weight than it could back in the Mysterious Dungeon days. And that's great! It's neat to see somebody come out with Procedural Mark of the Ninja or Procedural Mascot Platformer.

Party Bug
Mar 13, 2008

SALT BECOMES EMPOWERMENT

Bozart posted:

pbug how are you so adorable

it is a hard life to live

dscruffy1 posted:

This game looks pretty neato, I might pick it up if it continues to tickle my fancy.

I'm a sucker for roguelites.

I'd highly recommend both Swindle and Flinthook. For some reason Swindle has mixed reviews on steam and a lot of people complaining about the controls but they must be playing with their feet or something because it handles fine. Except for the upgrade menu navigation that kind of controls like balls.

Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!
Platforming was too floaty for my tastes and I bailed early. Mind I play these games with keyboard which probably didn't help matters.

Cathode Raymond
Dec 30, 2015

My antenna is telling me that you're probably wrong about this.
Soiled Meat
Has anyone played the Vita version of The Swindle? If the Vita controls are decent then I'm definitely going to pick it up.

Party Bug
Mar 13, 2008

SALT BECOMES EMPOWERMENT
:20bux: UPDATE :20bux:

> Days 6 - 9_

The Slums are done, time for The Warehouse District. It's harder, I guess?

Cathode Raymond posted:

Has anyone played the Vita version of The Swindle? If the Vita controls are decent then I'm definitely going to pick it up.

Can't help you there, sadly. I've only played it on PC.

cokerpilot
Apr 23, 2010

Battle Brothers! Stop coming to meetings drunk and trying to adopt Tevery Best!

Lord General! Stop standing on the table and making up stupid operation names!

Emperor, why do I put up with these people?
Holy crap everything gets really really aggressive when you get spotted.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.
This is a good game that I enjoyed immensely up to a given point (the last level) and then hated enough that I had to put it down for a week before finishing it. Still a fun ride.

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels
I am also rather a fan of roguelikes, and thus will be following this thread with my Steam Wallet in hand. That said, are you taking suggestions for the Rogue's Gallery?

Party Bug
Mar 13, 2008

SALT BECOMES EMPOWERMENT

Lazy Bear posted:

I am also rather a fan of roguelikes, and thus will be following this thread with my Steam Wallet in hand. That said, are you taking suggestions for the Rogue's Gallery?

Sure! If you've got something you'd like to see or think should be shown off go ahead and drop it in here. I've got a decent sized list already, but I might have missed something cool.

Quiet Python
Nov 8, 2011
I've been messing around with a game called "Tomb of Tyrants" which is kind of like "You Must Build a Boat" crossed with "Dungeon Keeper" but with rogue-like unlocks.

I hope you'll be taking a look at "Renowned Explorers: International Society" at some point.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
So they expect you to have bombs and lockpick in this district. Do they expect you to have other powers too?

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
As far as suggestions go: are you going to do Leap of Fate? It's sort of a hack'n'slash card game with random skill trees and permadeath.

Party Bug
Mar 13, 2008

SALT BECOMES EMPOWERMENT
:iiapa: UPDATE :iiapa:

The Binding of Isaac

Isaac is a bad fine on a technical level I guess game and I'm bad at it.


Glazius posted:

So they expect you to have bombs and lockpick in this district. Do they expect you to have other powers too?

Hacking level 2 (the one that opens doors) and bombs are the only upgrades you're really expected to have. The game will start throwing security stations in now and then and those require Hacking 3, but it's not a strictly necessary upgrade. Yet.

Quiet Python posted:

I've been messing around with a game called "Tomb of Tyrants" which is kind of like "You Must Build a Boat" crossed with "Dungeon Keeper" but with rogue-like unlocks.

I hope you'll be taking a look at "Renowned Explorers: International Society" at some point.

anilEhilated posted:

As far as suggestions go: are you going to do Leap of Fate? It's sort of a hack'n'slash card game with random skill trees and permadeath.

Leap of Fate looks cool, I'll definitely check it out. Same with Tomb of Tyrants. And Renowned Explorers is on the list too, that one I might do a few on.

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

I'd like to see someone with some skill in Crypt of the Necrodancer.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

The fun in BoI is the crazy upgrade synergies you can get if you can avoid death long enough (and if you're very lucky, that doesn't have to be long) because there are tons of them and outside of a dozen very specific items none of them make it harder to kill things or survive. Of those specific exceptions several will make the run if collected right away and you're used to their drawbacks and/or get things to make any usage problems go away; very few actively 100% bad items exist and even some of those can actually get saved. Unlike Gungeon or other later arena-ish roguelikes things aren't really balanced around being anything but awesome shattering power when combined, and that's when I feel like it's at its most fun. It's just too bad Edmund lost sight of that and started making weird choices to try and make it harder in Afterbirth.

I don't know for sure what if anything you have to do to unlock the Dr. Fetus challenge but once I got used to that and beat it I really liked it thanks to it being very poor player friendly so long as you are at least good enough to avoid the obvious downside (being able to find secret rooms for free helped as well). Brimstone is available at the start though and the only issues with that are having to dodge for longer and look up ahead of time items that will mess it up (also you'll see it in a devil room probably before you see it as a regular treasure).

Ignatius M. Meen fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Jun 2, 2017

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels
I dunno how much you like the more classic-format Roguelikes, but I'm a pretty big fan of Tales of Maj'Eyal. It doesn't hurt that it's free(go to te4.org instead of Steam).

Party Bug
Mar 13, 2008

SALT BECOMES EMPOWERMENT
:20bux: UPDATE :20bux:

The Swindle: Days 10 - 12

Just quick few more days in ye olde warehouses.

Party Bug fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Jun 7, 2017

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.
Ya forgot to set it to public, ya nerd :v:

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

There's a weird cut back to the base at 4:48.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

What's to the right of the building?

Party Bug
Mar 13, 2008

SALT BECOMES EMPOWERMENT
Oops I fixed the thing.

Also surrounding the building you're heisting from are invisible walls on both sides, no real exciting stuff.

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.
It's pretty much what's on the left, but without your pod thing.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

This seems like the kind of game I'd enjoy, but I'm having a lot of trouble tracking the gameplay with the palette. Is there a high-contrast mode?

Party Bug
Mar 13, 2008

SALT BECOMES EMPOWERMENT
There's a way you can turn off background blur and camera 'dirtiness', that sort of helps but doesn't make major changes. I'll see if I can't throw up a comparison at some point.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
So now another question - can you get to everything in a district 1 building with 3 bombs, or is RNG going to flip you off sometimes?

Party Bug
Mar 13, 2008

SALT BECOMES EMPOWERMENT
:siren: UPDATE :siren:

Rogue's Gallery: Flinthook (2/?)

There was going to be a video with an actual new game but I decided to eat a burg last night instead of edit it. I'll probably get it up either tonight or tomorrow.

Glazius posted:

So now another question - can you get to everything in a district 1 building with 3 bombs, or is RNG going to flip you off sometimes?

It's pretty rare but sometimes you'll need more than 3. Occasionally the game will generate 2 or more 'enclosed' spaces and 3 bombs won't be enough to get into all of them.

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost

Party Bug posted:

:siren: UPDATE :siren:

Rogue's Gallery: Flinthook (2/?)

I picked up Flinthook after seeing it here and got ~the true ending~ after 32 hours. It was a busy weekend. Also it's still hard, I haven't gotten some secrets yet. But it's really cool!

Also you can use slow-mo to game the Gamblinger. It's not as random as it seems! :ssh:

dscruffy1 fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Jun 9, 2017

racerabbit
Sep 8, 2011

"HI, I WANT TO HUG PINS NUTS."
:frolf:
Man, if only you'd had something that could've frozen all the enemies in place. Something like a - a sub-weapon of some sort.

bagual
Oct 29, 2010

inconspicuous

Party Bug posted:

:20bux: UPDATE :20bux:

The Swindle: Days 10 - 12

Just quick few more days in ye olde warehouses.

you forgot to plant the bug every single run

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.
Using stand powers to win at gambling will get you kicked out of most casinos, scruffy :v:

ArashiKurobara
Mar 22, 2013

dscruffy1 posted:

I picked up Flinthook after seeing it here and got ~the true ending~ after 32 hours. It was a busy weekend. Also it's still hard, I haven't gotten some secrets yet. But it's really cool!

Similarly for me and The Swindle - it's kicking my rear end but it's extremely my jam so I'm enjoying it and really glad to have found out about it! (Flinthook does also look pretty great but just doesn't seem like my thing, which is fine too.)

Party Bug
Mar 13, 2008

SALT BECOMES EMPOWERMENT


Rogue's Gallery: Necropolis (1/2)

:darksouls:

I'll probably post the rest of the run sooner or later but it's kind of boring. I also forgot to mention that Necropolis has a multiplayer component, I might show that off at some point.


dscruffy1 posted:

Also you can use slow-mo to game the Gamblinger. It's not as random as it seems! :ssh:
For some reason I actually never tried this. I feel dumb now.

bagual posted:

you forgot to plant the bug every single run
i'm bad :negative:

AltaBrown posted:

Man, if only you'd had something that could've frozen all the enemies in place. Something like a - a sub-weapon of some sort.
I WILL NEVER LET THE FROST GLOBE INTO MY HEART

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

When's FTL?

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Necropolis seems a little clunky for how whimsical it's trying to be.

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some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
The Swindle seems like the kind of game where I'd play 10 levels, restart twice because I bought all the wrong upgrades, and then forget about and play Darkest Dungeon some more instead

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