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Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.




if the UT balks at that for whatever reason, we could always declare it extra-solar lifeforms or intelligences, since Facility is a proper citizen of our solar system.

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cannonfodder43
Jul 15, 2004


Zaodai posted:



Did they just sneak one by us? As worded, we technically would be expected to report Facility's existence. Was this in the 1C we voted for?

Why would we need to report on facility? I think it is quite clear that it is a citizen of Mars at this point and certainly not an alien. Any new space horrors we meet can be introduced to Putin though.

Greader
Oct 11, 2012


Besides, it says "as soon as practical" and we all know how slow bureaucracy can be.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I was fucking sick of looking at Boris's fucking face. So I changed it to my muse and future lover.


Also I don't expect them to follow that rule either.

Nevets
Sep 11, 2002

Be they sad or be they well,
I'll make their lives a hell


We totally are in the clear keeping Facility a secret for two reasons:

1. Physically Facility predates human civilization, & therefore is most definitely an archaeological site whose discovery falls under section 6 of the Ranganui treaty.

2. Mentally Facility was a near-sentient computer program when we encountered it. It only became sentient after it was exposed to that extra-solar data dump. While physically constructed outside Sol (we assume) it nevertheless became a true life-form inside the Solar system & is therefore not an extra-solar intelligence.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?







drat that second point is actually pretty drat ironclad. Earth seems to love playing by the letter rather than the spirit of our deals, I'm all too happy to return the favor.

Jack2142
Jul 17, 2014

Shitposting in Seattle


Proposal to exile Cryo from the Martian navy and force him to be our ranking attache to the Titan Free State.

POOL IS CLOSED
Jul 14, 2011

I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.


Pillbug

That reasoning should do any lawyer proud.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?







Jack2142 posted:

Proposal to exile Cryo from the Martian navy and force him to be our ranking attache to the Titan Free State.
You call that "exile"? I'll straight up volunteer. I still get to be higher ranking than you in the Martian chain of command and build socialism among the stars with the TFS.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.




Nevets posted:

We totally are in the clear keeping Facility a secret for two reasons:

1. Physically Facility predates human civilization, & therefore is most definitely an archaeological site whose discovery falls under section 6 of the Ranganui treaty.

2. Mentally Facility was a near-sentient computer program when we encountered it. It only became sentient after it was exposed to that extra-solar data dump. While physically constructed outside Sol (we assume) it nevertheless became a true life-form inside the Solar system & is therefore not an extra-solar intelligence.

Point 2 is essentially why I argued for "extra-solar intelligence" if they balk at us specifying new contact. Facility, as it is, was "born" in Sol. Yes, not by human hand, but that isn't pertinent if all Solar life is excluded anyway.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.




And if they start asking questions about why we're so worried about Sol, frame it as us trying to be CERTAIN they're not trying to cut our legs out from under us by somehow edge casing our completely necessary organism grow labs on Mars to try and force us into importing from Terra.

That'd be paranoid enough for them to buy it.

Not Alex
Oct 9, 2012


Speaking of doing stuff, I'd like to sign up for captaincy. Something with a giant gently caress off doom laser is preferable.

Cathode Raymond
Dec 30, 2015

My antenna is telling me that you're probably wrong about this.


Soiled Meat

Facility is not a Xeno intelligence, you infidels, it is the God of Sol, or at least certain upstart religions claim it so.

As a divine being, the treaty does not pertain to Facility any more than it pertains to Jesus or Thor. It's not really possible to say where a god is from but saying it is not from here is ridiculous

It's been here longer than anatomically modern humans and certain upstart and very reputable religions would claim it invented time and space itself. I'll be happy to explain all this to UT if called upon. Not in person though, of course. I'm simply too busy with ecumenical duties.

Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

Crazycryodude posted:

You call that "exile"? I'll straight up volunteer. I still get to be higher ranking than you in the Martian chain of command and build socialism among the stars with the TFS.

Cathode Raymond posted:

Facility is not a Xeno intelligence, you infidels, it is the God of Sol, or at least certain upstart religions claim it so.

As a divine being, the treaty does not pertain to Facility any more than it pertains to Jesus or Thor. It's not really possible to say where a god is from but saying it is not from here is ridiculous

It's been here longer than anatomically modern humans and certain upstart and very reputable religions would claim it invented time and space itself. I'll be happy to explain all this to UT if called upon. Not in person though, of course. I'm simply too busy with ecumenical duties.

...Okay apparently I'm the only sane member of Triton Fleet. Or at least the highest-ranking sane member because Cathode is a fanatical xenofacility worshipper and Cryo is the Communist Revolution distilled down into one man.

Dr. Snark fucked around with this message at Oct 7, 2017 around 01:17

Cathode Raymond
Dec 30, 2015

My antenna is telling me that you're probably wrong about this.


Soiled Meat

Dr. Snark posted:

...Okay apparently I'm the only sane member of Triton Fleet. Or at least the highest-ranking sane member.

Yes but you've always known that.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?







I've changed my mind, I will not volunteer to be our liaison to the TFS. In fact, I would consider it a punishment duty fit only for a dishonorable cur who is a disgrace to Mars and no threat at all to either Terra or any shadowy secret societies that may or may not exist.

There, now that Gridlocked and his masters have been fooled by my cunning deception, I can be assigned to the position and build Full Space Communism Now without being seen as a threat until it's too late for the bourgeoisie to react

Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

Cathode Raymond posted:

Yes but you've always known that.

...A fair point.

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

Then you remember. You have a message to send.

Something everyone must know.

You have the power. You have the means.

Let it be known.




Dr. Snark posted:

...Okay apparently I'm the only sane member of Triton Fleet. Or at least the highest-ranking sane member because Cathode is a fanatical xenofacility worshipper and Cryo is the Communist Revolution distilled down into one man.

Or maybe we are all normal and you are just insane. Now off to the gulags with ye

Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

HiHo ChiRho posted:

Or maybe we are all normal and you are just insane. Now off to the gulags with ye

I outrank you. If anything I could send you to the gulags. But I won't because we need decent officers even if they are all insane.

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

Then you remember. You have a message to send.

Something everyone must know.

You have the power. You have the means.

Let it be known.




Where do you think I was put for escaping from the wreck of the Ziggy?

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!



HiHo ChiRho posted:

Where do you think I was put for escaping from the wreck of the Ziggy?



Apparently you are squatting in third fleets flagship somewhere after being rescued.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?







Oh man you have to show us all our personality traits.

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011


Could I be made insane anti-Terran captain of one of the new fleet?

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!








Officer signups are here.

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013



one of these days i will be promoted from 1st Colonel too Lt General as well as a new ship (can I request the first Pollux class cruiser out of the shipyards)

please show my personality traits

Tythas fucked around with this message at Oct 7, 2017 around 02:15

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!





Apparently you keep trying to climb into a fighter and seek battle.

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013



Saros posted:



Apparently you keep trying to climb into a fighter and seek battle.



look i just really wanna kill things myself and not put my crew at risk

Ha I made LT General at 28 years old no less My career is really going places

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?







Saros posted:






Officer signups are here.

10/10

Why does Tythas get all the good traits grumble grumble

E: Hah, Colonel Cryo has been a she this entire time. And educated on Earth. And really young for a Colonel full general . gently caress it, I'm rolling with it. What a true daughter of the Revolution

Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at Oct 7, 2017 around 02:23

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011


Saros posted:






Officer signups are here.

I can't figure out how to open on mobile.

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

Serial Savior. It's back to shore leave and teaching amateur mathematicians not to draw to an inside straight until I can rustle up another command. Maybe I'll get lucky and get to fight one of our shiny new Taihas.

VanSandman posted:

I can't figure out how to open on mobile.
Someone added you to the captain signup sheet already.

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

Then you remember. You have a message to send.

Something everyone must know.

You have the power. You have the means.

Let it be known.




I love my traits

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?







Woah, is Hauptmann-General a full general like it implies in German? At 24? Y'all need to step it up, Miss Cryo is gonna be Fleet Archon by 30 at this rate.

Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

Alright Saros, do me. I want to learn that I'm actually insane in-game or something crazy like that.

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013



Crazycryodude posted:

Woah, is Hauptmann-General a full general like it implies in German? At 24? Y'all need to step it up, Miss Cryo is gonna be Fleet Archon by 30 at this rate.

I don't know what is more scary me being a leutnant-General or you being a Hauptmann-General

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!





winterwerefox
Apr 23, 2010

The next movie better not make me shave anything

quote:

Martian Colonial Federation space-based non-self propelled tonnage will not be subject to nor influence these tonnage levels.

This line allows Mars to have pods in fleet battles of equal tonnage, if no one noticed.

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

Then you remember. You have a message to send.

Something everyone must know.

You have the power. You have the means.

Let it be known.




Hot drat these are loving spot on


No faith in others

Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service


HiHo ChiRho posted:

Hot drat these are loving spot on


No faith in others

i cant loving argue with that

i dont trust any of you crazy fucks

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?







Oh my god how are all of these so perfect.

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Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Remind me again why we agreed to EQUAL tonnage with the Terrans in OUR system without a reciprocal tonnage agreement in Nova Sol? Because that means they can park a battlefleet in our system, and have reinforcements come through once they clear the nearspace stations.

Also whee! Back to jumping. IT IS THOUGH A THOUSAND MOUTHS CRY OUT IN DISAPPOINTMENT AT THE LACK OF BLOOOOOD.
Soon my pretties. Soon.

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