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What the gently caress It's like... the game knows us somehow 
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Oct 7, 2017 03:43
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IIRC we're all young as gently caress because the game starts everyone out as 21. Also goddamn those traits. 
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Oct 7, 2017 03:47
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We here at the Discord have come to the conclusion that these oddities are the result of the interference of the ghost of Coldest War, haunting those once associated with it. Be warned.
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Oct 7, 2017 03:49
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Current theory: the thread/Saros' computer is haunted by the ghost of Coldest War  E: Snark 
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Dr. Snark posted:We here at the Discord have come to the conclusion that these oddities are the result of the interference of the ghost of Coldest War, haunting those once associated with it. but I wasn't part of coldest war and it's still spot on
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Oct 7, 2017 03:50
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Tythas posted:but I wasn't part of coldest war and it's still spot on Dear god IT'S SPREADING RUN FOR YOUR LIVES
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Oct 7, 2017 03:52
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 Ooops I seem to have forgotten to relieve somebody of command before sending them through two more jumps. 
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Oct 7, 2017 03:53
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I'm digging this new chapter of Aurora astrology. Also I guess my previous association has doomed me as well. Looking forward to it.
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Oct 7, 2017 03:58
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It's not wrong
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Oct 7, 2017 04:11
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Can you post mine? I haven't done much but get nearly killed around the battle to free our comrades at the TFS, but hey. Maybe I'm a surly drunk from the experience. 
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Oct 7, 2017 04:13
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Yeah I don't think I've been in combat for a bit, but would love to see.
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Oct 7, 2017 04:20
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I think I'm still tooling around the new system, and I'm still a bit sore about the fact that the Eureka command staff wasn't invited to dinner on the Terran ship.
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Oct 7, 2017 04:23
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Alright so some alarming news has just come out of the Discord - Mars doesn't have enough population to run our shipyards. And that's right now, without accounting for the future expansions we're gonna need to catch up with Earth. And the people we're gonna need to send to the colonies. Its not bad yet, just a slight penalty, but population crunches are bad news. We should look into opening/encouraging immigration from all sources, and while I'm sure a moderate number of TFS and IC citizens would like to come to Mars, we have to talk about the bloated, overpopulated, climate-hell elephant in the room. We have to start accepting Earthers. There are ten billion people crammed in like sardines down on that rock, half of whom are political dissidents and all of whom would literally kill to get some elbow room. They'll come to Mars as fast as we can ship them, and hooboy do we need them. I'd recommend taking political dissidents and oppressed classes first, both because they're less likely to try and sabotage us and because Earth will probably be glad to be rid of them. Martian passenger ships are an easier sell than mass graves, if nothing else. We need to get on this ASAP, talk to all the relevant people, and take advantage of the relatively low tensions to steal as many Earthers as we can before relations deteriorate again.
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Oct 7, 2017 04:35
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Another problem that came up is our woeful lack of civilian shipyard capacity. The IC blew up all but 3 of our civvie yards, and those three need to go to 1) gatebuilders, 2) troop transports, and 3) tankers. You'll notice there's a distinct lack of freighters and colony ships, which are critical for both shipping as many Earthers as we can to Mars and as many Martians as we can to the colonies. Lucky for us, the TFS has a shiny new civvie shipyard complex they got as reparations from the IC, and desperately want some work for it. I propose that we contact them about contracting as many of their slipways as they're willing to rent us to build 1) colony ships, 2) terraforming ships, and 3) freighters, all of which we're gonna need an approximate metric fuckton of to properly develop our colonies. Just to tidy it all up in one line, Saros, can we contact Earth about opening immigration and contact the TFS about building civvie ships? Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Oct 7, 2017 |
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Oct 7, 2017 04:40
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We should obviously be accepting of peoples wishing to escape the totalitarian dictatorships they find themselves in. Mars is humanity for EVERYBODY.
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Oct 7, 2017 04:55
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Veloxyll posted:Remind me again why we agreed to EQUAL tonnage with the Terrans in OUR system without a reciprocal tonnage agreement in Nova Sol? Because that means they can park a battlefleet in our system, and have reinforcements come through once they clear the nearspace stations.  We're giving some concessions in order to get security though and we should be able to lock down the Ranganui-Nova Sol gate very hard. Fixed defences (not ships) don't count towards tonnage limitsLostCosmonaut posted:We almost definitely gonna go to war later, but then we'll kick Terra's face in and walk up to Putin and give him a wedgie and steal his lunch money. Nevets posted:We totally are in the clear keeping Facility a secret for two reasons: 
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Oct 7, 2017 05:01
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Come visit beautiful Mars! Take a swim in the glittering maria*, go for a hike up Olympus Mons**, or search for alien artifacts in the canals***! Our friendly customs agents are ready to usher you into the vacation of your dreams! No fruits or vegetables, please. *Water coming soon. **Surface travel outside domed areas is unadvised & uninsured. ***Artifacts not guaranteed. Canals may appear to be ravines upon closer inspection.
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Oct 7, 2017 05:01
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Nevets posted:Come visit beautiful Mars! Take a swim in the glittering maria*, go for a hike up Olympus Mons**, or search for alien artifacts in the canals***! All of those things work just fine in Martian Dreams, the definitive authority on visiting Mars.
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Oct 7, 2017 05:09
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As the most important member of the Martian Navy, I would like to see my dossier.
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Oct 7, 2017 05:25
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I'm also p important in the navy. I think I even have a kill! Also! Any and all acceptance of citizens from earth will result in us being hosed over by spies. We've kept a clean ship why change things? Automatic mines and personel to run our pdcs are all we need. Send all wealth to mars so we can build her up into a better earth!
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Oct 7, 2017 07:16
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Speaking of ship construction, we should contract some civilian ship production to the IC, not colony ships that might be a little too risky, but Freighters etc. might be a good idea. If we can normalize relations with the IC rump state on Jupiter we can maybe keep them out of unilaterally supporting United Terra.
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Oct 7, 2017 07:34
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I think contracting some civilian ship building to the TFS is a great idea and should be done ASAP to prevent Earth doing the same. I also really like Jack's idea about seeing if the IC want to build some as well. With regards to importing Earth's dissidents I'm torn. On one level I accept that we probably will have to do so just to keep up but at the same time I feel like it's just asking for Earth to slip in spies and covert operatives able to disrupt us when it comes to war. Or more worryingly spill secrets regarding our tech and Facility.
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Oct 7, 2017 08:22
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BwenGun posted:I think contracting some civilian ship building to the TFS is a great idea and should be done ASAP to prevent Earth doing the same. New citizens are not allowed to work in the shipyards they must work in terraforming.
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Oct 7, 2017 08:30
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Come now, we've got multiple graduates from Earth Military Academy among our spacegoons, what's a few hundred million more folks with ties to Earth going to do for our security? Joking aside, I'm pro-immigrant mostly for space goodguy reasons. Plus, we get to keep the special bureau busy and not up to mischief, and I'm not sure how much secret technology matters with the massive gains both UT and the Martian Federation are likely to get from the graveyard planet.
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Jack’s Peace Time Ideas Ship Construction Policies 1. Develop a Terraformer Ship, this can be used to supplement the ground based terraformers and be deployed to the colonies when needed? 2. Contract construction of the Civilian Ship designs to both the TFS and IC, we need more civilian capacity desperately. With the IC they would likely appreciate us offering to pay them for their services, while angry at the war they are capitalists and money is money. If the ships end up sabatoged, then we have a casus beli to put them out of their misery. 3. Ditto on purchasing potential Tankers and other designs from the IC that they might have in abundance. Immigration/Manpower Policies 1. Encourage Terran Immigration to Mars, however many of these immigrants should be employed in the 2. Sign a Free movement treaty for civilians with all the independent states of the Sol System, this should help normalize relations after the IC War and the recent tensions. This will potentially open us up to spies, but I think SB is pretty good at their jobs, it will also let us infiltrate Terran colonies/cities/habitats with potential agitators. Diplomacy Policies 1. The IC are not our friends, but we need to make overtures to ensure they do not drift into the Terran Camp. That means establishing diplomatic ties and making an effort to show the IC war is in the past and working with us, rather than against us will be better for them in the long run. 2. If the IC fails to respond to our overtures, we should make plans for finishing them off, either by us or by the allied TFS. We cannot afford a hostile revanchist power, we need to render them friendly at best, or neutral at worst. Military Policies 1. Deploy a detachment of Martian Officers and ships to the TFS to help them build up their military forces. These ships can include elements of the Triton Fleet, such as the Flagship Victory under command of Cryo and any volunteers. 2. We need to assemble a scratch force to garrison Raganui, right now the Terrans have free reign of the system, a few Endurances, Schia’s and Hubbles will give some more legitimacy to our claim than a single rickety jumpship. Exploration Policies 1. Priority ONE is discovering any remaining jump points in the Sol System ASAP, while we cannot unilaterally claim them we need to discover them before the Terran’s find it and decide they need 2+ exclusive JP chains for Lebensraum. Because I really don't want us to have to go through the appeasement process yet again. 2. We need to then scout out from Raganui, while its clear the system is bountiful we need to continue exploring to ensure that we can find our own secure system where we can build a colony and potentially a fleet base away from Terran eyes. This should take priority over continuing geo-surveys. Jack2142 fucked around with this message at 10:15 on Oct 7, 2017 |
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Oct 7, 2017 09:36
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It is the manifest destiny of every Martian to take to the stars.
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Oct 7, 2017 12:17
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If we are going to place ourselves as the self appointed lead defenders of humanity we should probably represent all of it within our nation anyway.
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Oct 7, 2017 12:25
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So do these traits have any effect on anything? ...also what are mine? 
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Oct 7, 2017 12:38
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Also let's start shipping in Terrans and their money.
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Oct 7, 2017 12:40
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GunnerJ posted:So do these traits have any effect on anything? Nah the traits are just randomly generated by the game to add a bit of flavor, no actual gameplay effect (yet). Or, well, "randomly", these ones have obviously been affected by the ghost of Coldest War. As to concerns over whether taking in Earther refugees will be a security risk... we don't have much choice. Where else are we gonna get the hundreds of millions of people we need? Not want, need. Mars is already having population troubles and we haven't even started to ship people out to the colonies or expand our shipyards/industry/terraformers. Population crunches in Aurora can be incredibly bad, and we need to avoid one of our own at all costs. I'm sure Earth will slip some spies and saboteurs into all the dissidents they ship us, but the number should be relatively low and the SB are good at their jobs.
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I'm just glad I died in a heroic, one may daresay NELSONIC fashion leading my fleet and breaking forever the power of the IC early in the LP.  Name a colony after your dear martyred admirals, Mars! I mean, eventually.
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Well I'm sure Putin will ensure those migrants will be convicts and other malcontents but they make the best fanatics anyway.
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Veloxyll posted:Remind me again why we agreed to EQUAL tonnage with the Terrans in OUR system without a reciprocal tonnage agreement in Nova Sol? Because that means they can park a battlefleet in our system, and have reinforcements come through once they clear the nearspace stations. Because we are allowed to fortify the Rangi side of the jump points. You need a truly massive advantage to force yourself though a fortified jump point.
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Crazycryodude posted:Another problem that came up is our woeful lack of civilian shipyard capacity. The IC blew up all but 3 of our civvie yards, and those three need to go to 1) gatebuilders, 2) troop transports, and 3) tankers. You'll notice there's a distinct lack of freighters and colony ships, which are critical for both shipping as many Earthers as we can to Mars and as many Martians as we can to the colonies. Here's a quick design for civilian ships. If a yard is tooled for either the colony ship, troop transport or tanker, it can also build the cargo ship code:code:code:code:
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Oct 7, 2017 14:38
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What's the load/unloading times for those? You usually want to get under a day and I usually shoot for 8-10 hours.
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LLSix posted:What's the load/unloading times for those? You usually want to get under a day and I usually shoot for 8-10 hours. 12 hours for the troop transport, 1 day for cargo, 2 for colonists. Each has 2 Improved Cargo Handling Systems on it, can be increased to suite Mars' needs.
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Oct 7, 2017 14:46
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Yo, bring us your Earthlings yearning to be free. Mars needs stout hearts and busy hands.
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 Quite the record.      I believe that is everyone who asked. Feelers will be sent out to Earth about easing immigration restrictions and the TFS will be contacted about possible contract builds of freighters.
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