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Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Finally caught up to the end of the thread. I added myself to the spreadsheet, let me know if I hosed anything up in how I was supposed to sign up.

Very interesting read so far.

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Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Dr. Snark posted:

Well boys, I'm either going to murder the poo poo out of that IC fleet or die trying. For Triton, even if no one has died just yet!

Death and/or Glory! Godspeed.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Fray posted:

For those not following on discord, we just murdered their carrier!

It was self-defense. :colbert:

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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I'm happy to do some basic voice work, though sadly it'd be headset mic quality as I haven't picked up a new studio mic yet.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Saros posted:

There's a call of duty in space? That's uh, something.

The worst received Call of Duty ever! To the point where they immediately poo poo their pants and announced the next one is going back to WW2 (but likely not changing at all, it'll just be the same gameplay with Thompsons, and BARs and PPShs and stuff instead of M16s and MP5s).

I finally caught back up with the thread. Good to see I got my ship! and nearly died in the first command run without doing anything useful to help the fleet at all! :v:

At least I survived, a valiant hero of the war for Titan Freedom.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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sebmojo posted:

only the dead have seen the end of space war

And even then, only if they weren't trained in the Force.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Affi posted:

Like Trump/Clinton is healthy enough to live that long.

Putin thou. He's fit as heck.

My recommendation is we cybernetically augment some kind of space bear. They have those on Titan, right? A Titantic cyber-Space Bear could take him.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Saros, can I have my ship (the DDG More Missiles!) renamed "Titanic Space Bear"?

We'll strike fear in the hearts of our enemies yet. :argh:

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Nevets posted:

Our adversaries are Vladimir Putin & Bill Gates, I think if you want to really scare them we should rename a couple of our ships "Eyeliner for Men" and "LibreOffice is Just as Good"

I'll stick with the classics for now.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Just tell the pilots to target space. They'll only have an 8% chance to hit that, and thus a 92% chance to miss and hit the missile. :pseudo:

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Maybe we can push an unconditional surrender along, fluff wise.

The IC rep will understand that from a business position, we can't give up all our leverage and our gains just to get him out alive. That just isn't good business sense, we need an unconditional surrender. However, he could help HIMSELF by making that surrender sooner rather than later, and accompanying it with a public broadcast about how he's doing it because he has seen it is the will of the people, and he is not one to stand in the way of progress, etc. He's trying to blow smoke up the wrong asses, he needs to convince the people of Titan that he should be left alive, not us.

And then assure him that if he doesn't surrender, well...

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Goons never cease to amaze me about the detail level they tend to adapt to when trying to solve problems. Especially explosive based problems.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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The funny part is that the Earth forces have no issue with these random stealth terror strikes. They're like, yeah, gently caress it, we're fine with invisible terrorists rolling around the system. What are the odds they'll ever do anything to us? Carry on!

Can we just send some tugs out to pull an asteroid out of orbit and set it on a collision course for their capital? gently caress these idiots.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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I'd like to think if we were losing, our vengeance plan would be far more grandiose and not just "we blow up a shipyard and send them a telegram that says NEENER NEENER".

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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We do not negotiate with terrorists. gently caress the IC, we're comin' straight outta Titan.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Pash posted:

Just email them back a rick roll.

Or alternatively, this.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Crazycryodude posted:

I mean.... we literally are though. Like, in our experience being a terrorist gets you independence from Earth and lets you turn into a system-wise superpower. But I agree with you that it's a completely dumbass move in this specific situation.

No, see, this Martian history book clearly says we were freedom fighters, not terrorists. :pseudo:

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Z the IVth posted:

Like the average 40k flag then.

Only if we actually mount it on a giant flagpole on top of the flagship of the fleet. Which we should totally do anyway.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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M-A-R-S! Mars, Bitches!

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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We should make at least one zany demand of the IC, like they are required to convert half their potentially military capable manufacturing facilities to manufacturing novelty baubles commemorating the brave liberation of Titan.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Added Space posted:

They're not going to agree to that. They've already surveyed the inner system, any new finds will be in the outer system.

I think that's his point. If you want a puppy, start by asking your parents for a tiger.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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At least if it were this kind of space monster, it falls into the old "If it bleeds, we can kill it" trope. When they're 40k warp demons they get bullshit plot armor from living in another dimension, so who knows what kind of crap we'll have to put up with.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Just declare it under quarantine due to the massive orbital bombardment from the debris field and the related junk in orbit making it hazardous, to be lifted after it has been properly surveyed for safe habitation. Bam, done. I mean even a cursory glance shows that we're not making that poo poo up. We're not claiming "oh it's a weather balloon".

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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sebmojo posted:

idk feels like the abyss is havin a good old gander

HEY ABYSS

EYES ARE UP HERE

All personnel stationed near planet facing viewports are required to drop their pants and moon the planet. Take a good look, you alien bastards.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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What we really need are some proper Space Marines. We'll give these xenos and space demons what-for! :argh:

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Can we give them a cake to celebrate the first* extra-solar colony of humanity, and then put a big probe inside the cake to scan their system and haul rear end back to us to report? That seems like the logical plan to me.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Crazycryodude posted:

Have you considered just... asking if we can send an observer along for the ride?

And then we'll put the cake in the observers bag lunch we pack him. Brilliant!

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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I suggest we hand control of all the computer systems at the research and control stations on the new planet over to one sleazy fat guy who will totally not get killed while trying to betray us.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Wait, we just had a whole crew mind raped in transit, when we already know there are tentacle monsters from our incident at Pluto, and we sent those affected people TO OUR CAPITAL?

Oh man are we some stupid fucks. :tinfoil:

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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OwlFancier posted:

I would strongly recommend quarantining anybody who undergoes a jump pending, at the least, psychological evaluation and ideally until we can figure out what the gently caress is causing the effects we observed.

They can work on their ships but when they are on shore leave they should be kept under observation and be given their own, isolated facility. It can be a nice facility but until we know what is going on we should be treating jumping as highly dangerous and potentially cognitohazardous.

Definitely quarnatine this first group of guys that all got mind raped and don't let them set foot on any kind of population center that we can't afford to nuke out of existence. Put them on a space station for observation or something.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Crazycryodude posted:

That sounds like a great way to piledrive morale straight through the floor and ensure that the only people who apply to join the Jump Corps are suicidal cases who feel they have nothing left to lose.

I think people are really overreacting to this, jumping just statics up your wiring a bit and makes you feel funny. Institute a cooling-off period between all jumps so that the fuckiness can get all flushed out while the crew's neurotransmitters re-balance or whatever, and move on.

There's no real reason to not at the very least quarantine THIS group for a bit. It's no more of a morale hit than depressurizing when you come up from deep sea diving.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Saros posted:

Quarantine

For landing on alien worlds its pretty safe to assume that the smart people of the Martian science corps who have extensive experience with operating on foreign worlds are covering all the bases. I could write all about it but it comes under the heading of things that kind of happen in the background.

As for the Tangaroa she has yet to reach Mars and will be carefuly quarantined once she does. The Martian miitary tends towards the extremely paranoid side and ever since facilities refrences to some sort of hostile entities beseiging its Collaboration they have been quietly turning over concepts like the Fermi Paradox, the Great Filter and related silence of the sky.

If you think you guys are paranoid you ought to see the state of the high level strategic forecasting team.

Right now I need a vote on two things:

-To send the Survey ships to survey the new system or to perform a gravitation suvey of Sol (this will take a long time, up to several months).
-Attempt to break into the sealed zones of the Pluto facility or wait.

Since paranoid quarantine policy is assumed:
Survey the new system. Might as well find out what we can. More info is always useful.
Do not break in to the sealed zones of Pluto Facility. Yeah, we probably don't want to piss off Facility. Yet.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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The most obvious order is to bring me my brown pants. :v:

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Trying to outshoot them seems like a low percentage play that isn't worth the risk.

We should probably just quote the treaty at them stubbornly and offer to escort them to "their point of entry", so they can get the gently caress out of Martian space.. Then we get a free look at whatever jump point they used (assuming they didn't get a good look at ours when we jumped in) which saves us a little survey time, they don't get an answer to how we got there, and we don't start a war we can't win.

If they refuse to leave, well, then I guess they're just bandits pretending to be UT ships. Afterall, no REAL UT ships would so blatantly disregard the treaty. :smugdog:

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Risking war over our jump tech is a bad, bad idea.

Realistically, even if everything goes exactly as planned, how much are we gaining by keeping our jump tech a secret? Their survey crew made it here once, and we don't know by what means. They could make it here again, and even if we're successful now they'll know they're missing a survey fleet and if they ever make it back and they find wreckage, they'll have a pretty good idea of what went down and we'll have war anyway.

We should be ushering them along to get them out of our space before they steal all the fancy tech from that tomb world, though. Or at least away from that planet. We should offer the somewhat more neutral position that they retreat to their jump point until we can clear up this unfortunate "accidental" violation of Martian space. That will hopefully push them out of first strike range, too.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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xthetenth posted:

We should totally just play it as being no big deal that we have jump travel. Just no big deal for the superior Martian scientist.

"Of course we have jump tech. We thought you knew. Why would you have been negotiating about jump points if you didn't think we had this old school tech? While we're blowing your minds, watch this!" *makes grand show of pulling out communicator and calling back to the flagship* "Oh look, we have this magic box that lets us hear people from across vast distances!"

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Hope those officers have a plan in case they're just being lured into a trap of being hostages so the Terrans think we won't fire (or fire back). Because I don't, beyond "Put their name on a memorial when we get home after we blow up those ships."

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Nevets posted:

Before we start dealing with the legal & political issues regarding territorial claims to this system, I'd like some confirmation that these Terran ships are from the same reality & time as us. For all we know JP's are rips in the fabric of the universe that can transport us into the past or future, or even alternate realities.

We could be talking to UT forces 6 months or a year from now, or UT forces from an alternate universe where Mars lost the IC war.

By that logic, they could also be cannibals.

I'm sure they'll enjoy having you for dinner.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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We could put on hastily made, poorly constructed gorilla suits when we go over for dinner so they think we're from a Planet of the Apes dimension rather than their home one.

Or I suppose just paste goatees on everybody, but then they think we're the evil mirror dimension. :tinfoil:

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Zaodai
May 23, 2009

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Since we apparently have the capability to vat grow meat, we can continue with our "moon the dark gods" plan and shield ourselves during jumps just the same. Coat our spaceward ships in a layer of vat-grown asses. Then the rear end-shields get the nightmares, we get safe jump travel, and the dark gods have to get an eye full of the grim darkness of the future.

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