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Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

89 posted:

Looks like I need to hit up the SA-Mart to get my resume lookin' sharp

Be warned that Resume2Interviews was sold a few years back and from all accounts is... not at the quality level it once was, if that's what you were thinking of. I'm sure there are other services though.

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ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Jomo posted:

Work experience is wayyy more important than schooling. I have 6 years experience as a Database developer/analyst and no one I've had interviews with gave half a crap that I never graduated. Also, as you'll seen see first-hand if you take the offer, there are a lot of people in this world with advanced degrees that are completely useless at their job.

There are a lot of people that never even bothered with college in the profession. Something between 9% and 10% of people working as programmers have zero college education. None. The primary thing is being able to demonstrate that you can do the job.

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps
Not gonna lie, it is a little challenging coming up with a resume to a job that you have no work experience for.

adorai
Nov 2, 2002

10/27/04 Never forget
Grimey Drawer

89 posted:

Not gonna lie, it is a little challenging coming up with a resume to a job that you have no work experience for.
protip: I interview every internal candidate that applies for my positions. So if you can use that to get past HR and to my interview, then it doesn't matter what your resume looks like if you can ace the interview (for an entry level helpdesk position).

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps
How does this look?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cPfKEE2zJPTwkB1Ukza4ReyzSId1561YUUQsq0pjm0I/edit?usp=sharing

(Names and personal info replaced)

BattleMoose
Jun 16, 2010

Firstly, post in, Business, Finance, and Careers › The Resume and Interview ULTRATHREAD , kinda exists for this.

Other points, the first few sentences you wrote belong on the cover letter you will submit with your resume. They don't belong on your resume.

Stylistically, I really don't like the way you used those bullet points for "people" and "work", horizontally. But more importantly, they don't actually convey useful information about who you are and your capabilities and are taking up the most important space on your resume. I would delete those sections or at least put them at the end. Keep the skills bit but again, I am really not sure about those horizontal bullet points.

By far your most valuable section on your resume is that bit under "example". It demonstrates initiative and a competence in programming. This should be almost right at the top of your resume.

Something like: Under my own initiative I upgraded my companies scheduling to a digital platform that resulted in better outcomes for the employees and the company.

Edit: You have also hidden that you have built websites, this is relatable to the position you are applying for. Always include concrete examples. How many pcs have you built? Were you paid for it? Always give examples of applying a skill instead of saying I have skill.

BattleMoose fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Jun 8, 2017

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

sanchez posted:

Net+ is $300 or something and can be prepared for with an hour or two of study per day for 1-2 months, it's not a big deal. If you can knock that out along with A+ you have a shot at a very junior IT position somewhere. Probably still hourly break/fix type stuff but better than what you're doing now.

I know but just dropping $600 for A+ and N+ all at once is somewhat daunting considering I still need to pay rent/food and a new PC :smith:

Even then I hear companies don't like hiring w/o 3-5 years of exp and refs. Don't forget people who ask for a CS degree for support and look unhappy when you tell them I don't have it.

@OP: It depends if you want to do coding or study networking/IT as a career. It's definitely possible but you're at a significant disadvantage compared to CS college grads for even entry-level coding jobs. There's boot-camps but they vary from OK to complete scams for $10,000. For example, all of my friends who do have CS jobs all are college grads...

Don't let that stop you from going to codecademy/treehouse if you do go on that path. Online courses do require a extreme self-dedication and it's difficult to explain to companies why you should be hired w/o a formal education unless you're a prodigy.

FWIW: I do like learning how to code over the last year or so and it's a handy skill but there's times where I have complete gaps in my knowledge that even google can't help me with and it's frustrating.

Alder fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Jun 8, 2017

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.

The format with dots instead of newlines makes the part of your resume that I'm most likely to care about (skills) hard to read.

I get what you're trying to do with the people/work sections and all of the "motivated to be the best" stuff you've got going on. That said, it strikes me as that Tony Robbins bullshit which sales guys like. As a programmer, it might turn me off, but I don't know for sure since I've never seen a resume like that in the wild. (I did once interview someone trying to move from account management to software development and he talked like that, all about motivation and mindset.)

I'm not sure I'd want to call you if I saw that come across my desk, but some people might respond positively to it.

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps
I just don't have work experience, schooling, or certifications. So, I'm having a hard time filling space, so to speak. I'm a great interview, I'm just worried about that piece of paper.

NihilismNow
Aug 31, 2003

Alder posted:

I know but just dropping $600 for A+ and N+ all at once is somewhat daunting considering I still need to pay rent/food and a new PC :smith:

Maybe it is different in the US but A+ is worthless here. No one cares about it, haven't seen a single job that even wants it. You'd be better of getting a MCSA for entry level work (which you can also do for a few hundred). N+ is less worthless but still people care more about cisco certs. E: Also maybe this is different now but A+ used to be very outdated. It had stuff on the curriculum about micro channel architecture and servicing printers in the mid 2000's

E: Yup still questions on there about the number of pins on a floppy cable and the maximum allowable length of PATA cables and other things no one cares about.

NihilismNow fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Jun 8, 2017

kloa
Feb 14, 2007


JewKiller 3000 posted:

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

also i actually LIKE programming computers :shobon:

This right here :homebrew:

I work remote and get the same amount of work done in <20 hours that someone commuting to an office does in 40+

theLamer
Dec 2, 2005
I put the lame in blame
I'm a programmer doing web dev stuff. I have a degree in a non-tech field (foreign language).

The way I got into doing this professionally is I taught myself how to do HTML and CSS, with a bit of JavaScript (I didn't know anything though looking back). I made a portfolio website with some examples on it and started applying for jr. developer jobs.

I got a job doing customer support and they gave me the title 'Jr. Front End Developer' (even though it wasn't actually front end development haha). I was probably doing something equivalent to what you guys call 'tech support'. The pay was very low and I pretty much hated it immediately, because customer support is pretty bad and most of the customers you interact with are fairly stupid (there are some smart ones though, it's just most are tech illiterate, ignorant, assholish, etc).

After 8 months of doing customer support I couldn't handle it any more and decided to quit without anything lined up. I quit and spent ~6 months teaching myself CS / programming fundamentals and smoking a lot of a pot and playing vidya games all day long. After 6 months of this, I started applying and got a job at a startup as a 'Front End Developer', doing JavaScript stuff. Immediately I was making 2.5x what I was making before in customer support. At this job I learned more and more.

3 years later and I am still at this company and I make ~4x what I was making at the customer support job. I moved from the front end to doing backend + frontend (they call it fullstack) and am a team lead. I am also back at school pursuing a masters degree in CSE.

It's definitely possible to get into tech without a degree, though it is a lot harder. Recruiters have no clue what they're looking at and might just bin your resume because it doesn't have a technical degree on it. Best bet is to network and apply via referrals if at all possible (most people get money if you get hired do this so don't worry about asking). Also it is good to have mentors; my mother and sister are programmers and I was able to ask them for help looking over my resume and to give me practice interviews.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

89 posted:

I just don't have work experience, schooling, or certifications. So, I'm having a hard time filling space, so to speak. I'm a great interview, I'm just worried about that piece of paper.

I'm involved with the hiring process at my job and I can tell you that when going over resumes for tier 1 people I look more for 1) ability to communicate well verbally 2) multiyear stretches at previous jobs with few\no holes in your history & 3) a writing style when describing your responsibilities\accomplishments at previous jobs that communicates to me that you take ownership of tasks.

For the support job at that bank you're talking about, they probably feel like they can teach any reasonably not-stupid person off the street how to apply established processes to common issues and do basic troubleshooting on everything else. If it is tiered system, rather than flat, you'll probably find yourself passing any issue that can't be resolved in under 20-30 minutes up to tier 2 or a specialist. You'll stand out if you don't seem like a noncommunicative flake who is going to create more problems than you solve for maybe four-six months before you quit or are fired.

The total lack of technical skill might hurt you- you'd never get higher than a maybe vote from me if your resume was in a pile I was asked to evaluate for phone interview eligibility- but having an in at the company will help and if you can emphasize the stuff I said above it will compensate for your lack of experience.

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

theLamer posted:

I quit and spent ~6 months teaching myself CS / programming fundamentals and smoking a lot of a pot and playing vidya games all day long. After 6 months of this, I started applying and got a job at a startup as a 'Front End Developer', doing JavaScript stuff. Immediately I was making 2.5x what I was making before in customer support. At this job I learned more and more.

How did you support yourself for 6 months w/o a job?
Did you live in a van by the river and went to food banks weekly?
How did you afford internet/elec/phone bills for your tech?
If you relied on the library how did you bypass the 1 hour limit for PC use and closing times at 9PM?
How did you avoid dying from a curable illness with no health insurance for 6 months? ER has a long wait time.
How did you explain to hiring managers why you love this IT company despite no prior work exp in the same field?
If you completely relied on savings how did you come to terms that you'll be homeless once it runs out in a few months and you don't find a job?

Inquiring minds want to know.

@89: Honestly, CS is not longer a "safe" route for high paying job unless you're recruited by Google just safer compared to say Art or Music. It's possible to graduate with high marks but no one is hiring w/o 3-5 years of exp in X programming language and a stack of refs/internships.

Alder fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Jun 10, 2017

lifg
Dec 4, 2000
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Muldoon
CS isn't a *guaranteed* job, but it does have a well trod path to an stupidly above average salary. Take any job paying anything, do and learn everything you can get your hands on, after two years apply for a new job for a higher salary. Repeat.

You don't need a job at Google for this, or at any of the tech giants. The vast majority of jobs on this industry are not with the famous tech giants.

theLamer
Dec 2, 2005
I put the lame in blame

Alder posted:

How did you support yourself for 6 months w/o a job?
Did you live in a van by the river and went to food banks weekly?
How did you afford internet/elec/phone bills for your tech?
If you relied on the library how did you bypass the 1 hour limit for PC use and closing times at 9PM?
How did you avoid dying from a curable illness with no health insurance for 6 months? ER has a long wait time.
How did you explain to hiring managers why you love this IT company despite no prior work exp in the same field?
If you completely relied on savings how did you come to terms that you'll be homeless once it runs out in a few months and you don't find a job?

My parents supported me during those 6 months. I had some savings, not enough to last all 6 months though.

I got lucky in that my prior title was 'Jr. Front End Developer', even though I didn't do actual front end dev. At the prior job I helped customers embed a web product inside of iframes (an HTML element), and I did some customization of customer webpages. It was pretty simple stuff, not very technical, mostly hands on with customers (ie, no JavaScript, mostly HTML/CSS and talking to customers and attempting to resolve their issues; actual front end development means developing JavaScript 'single page applications' and the like, which I did not do).

When I applied to places they just saw the title, and I had learned enough on my own to pass as an actual front end developer.

If my parents had not have been able to support me I would have had to learn the material over nights and weekends, which would be doable but would require more diligence.

His Purple Majesty
Dec 12, 2008
Will getting a LPIC 1 net me good job?

lifg
Dec 4, 2000
<this tag left blank>
Muldoon

His Purple Majesty posted:

Will getting a LPIC 1 net me good job?

Dunno. Ask in the cert thread. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3521165&perpage=40

Modulo16
Feb 12, 2014

"Authorities say the phony Pope can be recognized by his high-top sneakers and incredibly foul mouth."

His Purple Majesty posted:

Will getting a LPIC 1 net me good job?

Maybe. But RHCSA is the correct choice. Get the RHCSA instead. Every enterprise I've ever worked for or interviewed for uses Red Hat. Red Hat is the standard. Get the RHCSA. If you want a career in Linux get the RHCSA. Have I been clear enough?

harskarenjag
Mar 11, 2008
I'm in Texas.

I have an undergrad degree in Finance that I got in 2011. I wanted to do the cool investment banking poo poo that you see in movies - private equity, mergers and acquisitions, etc. I'm still interested in the financial side of those operations but guess what? If you don't have an ivy league degree or a CFA, that's mostly out of the question for you. So I started as a customer service representative for a very large brokerage firm in 2012 - I handled equity, fixed income, options, and mutual fund trades for all sorts of regular people who would call in, so essentially it was a glorified call center job and my starting pay was $35k. I did receive series 7 and 63 licences as part of my training which are fairly marketable and prove I know basic finance and market mechanics. I hated it. I hate dealing with customers, and I hated being micromanaged on the phone. I lucked in to a position on the fraud team with the same company (networking is everything) and did that for 2.5 years and was promoted to senior analyst. My job was to proactively prevent wire fraud, identity theft, stock manipulation, and debit card fraud among many other responsibilities. Not a phone job. I made $68k altogether with overtime and bonus just a couple of years after college (2014). I was happy and excelling at the job, but lucked in to an interview with the cybersecurity team after having coffee with an old friend (networking is everything). I was given a $23,000 raise to join the cyber function, and an increased percentage bonus.

I worked very hard to learn everything I could (python, scripting, network hardware/stacks, IDS/IPS system) and received a few certifications related to cybersecurity that the company paid for. I was told I was underpaid to market by some friends in the industry but didn't think much of it because of how far I had come. Just landed a new job making $105k plus 20% bonus as a cybersecurity consultant at a big 4 firm and start Monday. I work very hard and try to learn as much as I can from the people around me and be humble, so obviously that is part of the success but technology related jobs in general are MUCH better for your mental well being. I work from home whenever I want, I set my own schedule, I have 25 vacation days a year and 10 paid holidays with unlimited sick time, and obviously I'm being paid a ridiculous amount of money for a skill that anyone can really learn in their spare time online. There are more good hackers out there trying to steal company data than there are people to prevent it. That's my story.

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps
So, small update. Got my resume in and all that stuff. My contact is trying to get me in with an Enterprise Command Center job.

ziggurat
Jun 18, 2017

by Smythe
op, here is the answer as to why everybody is so gun ho about working i.t. the anaemic fake sun of a computer screen is gentler and less reproachful than the glare of the real sun, which has watched as for centuries our hubris and complacency grew and which now is roasting us all on a funereal pyre that we built and kindled ourselves. we're all sacrificial animals to a false god: the almighty dollar. the only hope for mankind is for us all to abandon our selfishness, our callousness and our obscene love of money and work together as one united tribe to repair the wounded and foundering earth. however, in the wealthiest societies it's still possible to escape the everyday irritations of climate change by spending your every waking minute in an enclosed, electric-lit, artificially heated and cooled sterile taupe box, and you can forget all about the torment of the living by concentrating entirely on the mechanical, the works of man clicking along their lifeless mathematic paths inside their fabricated microcosms, unfeeling and unsuffering. this is how the i.t. field draws those among us who wish to turn their backs on the wave - who think that if they remain deliberately unaware of the unfolding cataclysm, they will be somehow spared from a fate that is descending on each and every one of us. fools! fools!! also because demand still outstrips supply for programmers it's possible to make millions of dollars without learning a single social skill so obviously goons dig it

kloa
Feb 14, 2007


ziggurat posted:

op, here is the answer as to why everybody is so gun ho about working i.t. the anaemic fake sun of a computer screen is gentler and less reproachful than the glare of the real sun, which has watched as for centuries our hubris and complacency grew and which now is roasting us all on a funereal pyre that we built and kindled ourselves. we're all sacrificial animals to a false god: the almighty dollar. the only hope for mankind is for us all to abandon our selfishness, our callousness and our obscene love of money and work together as one united tribe to repair the wounded and foundering earth. however, in the wealthiest societies it's still possible to escape the everyday irritations of climate change by spending your every waking minute in an enclosed, electric-lit, artificially heated and cooled sterile taupe box, and you can forget all about the torment of the living by concentrating entirely on the mechanical, the works of man clicking along their lifeless mathematic paths inside their fabricated microcosms, unfeeling and unsuffering. this is how the i.t. field draws those among us who wish to turn their backs on the wave - who think that if they remain deliberately unaware of the unfolding cataclysm, they will be somehow spared from a fate that is descending on each and every one of us. fools! fools!! also because demand still outstrips supply for programmers it's possible to make millions of dollars without learning a single social skill so obviously goons dig it

:yeah:

Sups
Aug 8, 2007

Jimmy Eat World Hunger
Pay is actually good. Education isn't HEAVILY required (I am a sys/network admin at a decent sized nonprofit with a small campus and have 0 IT certifications and a Bachelor's in Biology).

People often don't know what you do so there's little amount of overhead micromanaging and such -- your boss oftentimes CANNOT do your job, something that isn't exclusive to IT, but uncommon in other fields.

You can go anywhere, every city in the world has an IT infrastructure that someone supports.

Sometimes your job is waiting for something to break -- free time.

You can game at work.

a_pineapple
Dec 23, 2005


If you have a brain, goon-level knowledge of computers, and halfway decent google-fu, you can easily get a tier 1 helpdesk gig. After that keep pushing yourself and learning. I started as a lowly helpdesker and was promoted to sysadmin after a year, and network engineer the following year. I have no certifications or formal education or training related to IT, beyond typical poo poo like a college sophomore class in How to use Microsoft Office.

Build a lab at home and start teaching yourself stuff. Spend your Sundays at home building poo poo, breaking poo poo, and fixing poo poo. You don't need to spend thousands on a testing environment, you can learn quite a bit with that 5 year old junk in your mom's closet, or whatever garbage you can find on Craigslist for cheap. If you have to spend money, do not spend more than $500 on a lab. I studied hard at home on a Mac Mini and a prosumer-level Ubiquiti router, and after I got hired as a helpdesker, at work during my lunches on old junk in storage that nobody had the balls to throw away.

Here is a list of things that you can start doing now in your free time that will teach you a lot, and force you to learn basic poo poo:

-Dig up that POS in the closet and add more RAM and storage
-Install VirtualBox
-Install Centos 7
-Configure an Apache server on that Centos box
-Delete the Centos box, and rebuild it, but this time automate it with a script
-Delete the Centos box and follow Chef tutorials to rebuild it
-Set up a Windows Server 2016 DHCP server
-Set up a 2016 DNS server
-Use those 2016 servers as your primary DHCP and DNS servers for your home
-Buy a domain name (or not)
-Delete both of those 2016 servers and set up a full-on Active Directory domain using the domain name you maybe purchased
-Spin up a Windows 10 box and join it to your domain
-Install RSAT on the Windows 10 box and use it to manage your domain instead of using RDP like a noob
-Spin up an Ubuntu or Fedora box and figure out how to join it to your doain
-Install and configure a FreePBX box
-Install Jitsi on your WIndows 10 box and on your Ubuntu or Fedora box, and figure out how to make a call between them
-Spin up a few VyOSes or pfSenses and configure a mini-internet using the internal networking in Virtualbox
-On ths mini-internet, figure out how to view a webpage served on your Apache server from your Windows 10 box
-Blow away everything you've built and do it all over again using ESXI instead of Virtualbox
-Repeat until you can do this stuff in a single day and start to ask yourself "Why am I not automating this?!"

Essentially, find all the poo poo you might encounter in the enterprise world and figure out how it's all configured and how it all talks to each other. During this process you will be forced to learn many underlying skills that you will figure out how to apply to other situations. You will also learn how to troubleshoot and think critically, which are the most important skills to have in IT.

And always remember to read the loving documentation and the loving error logs.

a_pineapple fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Jul 2, 2017

city of doves
Jun 27, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
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Luna
May 31, 2001

A hand full of seeds and a mouthful of dirt


89 posted:

So, small update. Got my resume in and all that stuff. My contact is trying to get me in with an Enterprise Command Center job.

This is anecdotal but it is the way I came up and I have helped others come up this way. Take every poo poo job, every after hours project. Be the guy your boss knows they can get ahold of in a pinch. Let your boss know that you have ambitions and show them what you are doing on your own to get there. Once you're there, figure out where you want to go next and make nice with that group. Ask them if there is any poo poo work that they don't want to deal with and see if you can do it for them, even on your own time. When there is an opening in that group, you're the obvious choice.

I know this sounds like doing some work for free but it is an investment you make for the future. I've been promoted/given raises over smarter more qualified people because I would actually do the work and not act like it is below me. IT is still an industry where once you're in the door, what you do is what matters.

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps
I appreciate so much what everybody has helped me with in here :)

I've made the decision to go back to college for Computer Science in January.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

89 posted:

So, one of my best friend's mom can get me on with the company she works for. It's a banking company that monitors bank processing, monitoring those jobs in the command center, software development and testing. She does software development and testing and has been there for 20 years. Started at $32k a year, is making over six figures now. Works from home. Says Command Center pay starts in the low 40s. Business Analysts low to mid 50s, call center low 30s. She has the big wigs over at her house for dinner all the time and is close with the higher up's in the company and just loves me.

Sounds like she can definitely get me on to start working from the bottom around $30k a year. I haven't had schooling.

Am I squatting on a potentially great situation and need somebody to slap me to get me to go for it?

Would you be taking this job after learning some programming?

One thing to keep in mind about programming is that some people just totally can't do it for some reason. Like, when I took my first intro class people either did almost perfect or completely failed, with very little between. If you've never programmed before, before committing to taking courses you might want to do some online tutorials in an easy language like Python just to make sure you're one of the people who has at least some proficiency.

I still definitely recommend giving it a shot, though. I'm pretty much the world's shittiest programmer ever, and I still manage to make about $17.50 an hour in a very low stress environment in a low cost of living area (I work in academia, so that's partly why the pay is so low). It's still much better than you can usually get with a non-STEM degree, and if you happen to be proficient at it you can make a lot of money. Being a talented programmer is probably the easiest way to make a high salary that there is (as far as conventional jobs go, anyways).

Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Jul 20, 2017

Retarded Goatee
Feb 6, 2010
I spent :10bux: so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
I'm 25 years old, straight out of grad school and make well over the national median income of my native Sweden. My work consists of asking people who purchase IT-systems what they want in a very specific manner and write cases and/or draw diagrams to ensure that the programmers do what they are told. I may know very little code syntax or practical administration but working in IT owns bones.

whatspeakyou
Mar 3, 2010

no fucks given.

Retarded Goatee posted:

I'm 25 years old, straight out of grad school and make well over the national median income of my native Sweden. My work consists of asking people who purchase IT-systems what they want in a very specific manner and write cases and/or draw diagrams to ensure that the programmers do what they are told. I may know very little code syntax or practical administration but working in IT owns bones.

So you're this guy:




But yeah, working in IT definitely has its benefits. I'm active duty military and it even rocks in there, but mostly for the "here's a bunch of training. You're not highly qualified please don't leave for the better income and freedoms!"

If you know what you're doing, people typically consider you some kind of technical magician so you can bullshit your way through just about anything if you throw enough jargon at them. The downside of IT is if you're stuck working the service desk. gently caress that. Forever. Also printers. gently caress those too. Check out some of the IT related threads in here, especially the ones where IT folks bitch about the nonsense they deal with on a daily basis. IT can be great, but there's also special pockets of hell in IT that are just awful.

whatspeakyou fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Jul 25, 2017

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

I was The Guy all my life, and everybody said when I was young "why dont you go do something with computers?" "No, it'll drive me crazy". It may yet. But after being an idiot and doing a bunch of blue collar construction type poo poo, when I got a chance via a connection to work in an office in a basic data entry role, boy I enjoyed going in to work in semi decent clothes and not breaking my back. I knew I could go further putting the skills I already had to work than sticking as an office admin, so when that temp job ended, I decided to go back to school to get my proper education.

I ended up not even finishing, couldn't afford to stay in school really, when I got offered a job in the field. That was loving awesome, I had gained a few skills on top of my existing knowledge in the brief time I spent in school, and learned a lot when a guy where I went to work really took me under his wing and in no time I was tackling all sorts of new stuff. It was with the local government and I got to see a lot of cool places, doing service calls everywhere from the prison to the top of government. And again, coming from construction, it was cushy. And I tried to keep busy as much as I could and honestly probably almost walked on a few toes trying to complete as many tickets as possible. But I loved it.

That was another contract job so of course it ended, and in the meantime I went back to construction as a laborer, on a Gravity Base Structure that was under construction and made a loving poo poo load of money in 6 weeks. As I knew that was drawing to a close, I seen a job pop up for a printer project. I ain't fuckin touching that, I thought. Then my old company called me and asked if I wanted to go to work on that same project, and I had nothing else lined up so I said gently caress it. I loved my first job in IT, that project was loving garbage. They nonsensically decided it would be cost efficient to replace all the printers they already owned (and some leased ones) with leased Xeroxes that they pay for by the page, or PPI. So we had to go across the whole province, pulling out printers people in some cases were unreasonably attached to and installing new ones they had to relearn, and you wouldn't believe what we went through with some clients. Not to mention Xerox being complete loving trash to deal with. We had one judge who complained initially his personal sized printer we put in his office was too big. Later it came out that what he really didn't like was it didn't match the decor of his office. Had one lady who, gently caress I need to find that email because I printed it off and posted it in my cubicle, insisted that the lack of a built in stapler on their new multifunction would cause stress and injury from having to manually staple poo poo. Government people, man.

But, compared to the cement plant I worked in when I was 18, it was still pretty cool.

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Apr 4, 2007

A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.
built in staplers can be a pretty big deal if you're printing a huge number of copies of some 5-page thing that needs to be stapled or whatever

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