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Dr. Hurt posted:Wow. Rude. I just got done with the movie. lmao if taste gave you a team name instead of a player name
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chaoslord posted:lmao if taste gave you a team name instead of a player name Did you not get a team name?
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Jun 16, 2017 02:36
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Oh my name is Fabian Johnson. I've been playing this entire time thinking I was some idiot name. ##vote Raeg 
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Jun 16, 2017 02:37
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TMMadman posted:Did you not get a team name? I have two teams mentioned that he played for, among others.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:38
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chaoslord posted:I have two teams mentioned that he played for, among others. Ok. So did I.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:39
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I laughed, but I still voted
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Jun 16, 2017 02:39
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Well, that was not a claim that is gonna spare him, so does anyone see a need to keep the day open for the next hour or should we get this show on the road?
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Jun 16, 2017 02:42
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Alright, well VT isn't a good enough claim to stop the lynch. However, I'm still kind of torn here because it does feel like Dr. Hurt is telling the truth.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:46
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chaoslord posted:Well, that was not a claim that is gonna spare him, so does anyone see a need to keep the day open for the next hour or should we get this show on the road? I'm still kind of pondering. I don't know if Raeg is telling us the complete truth here, but it could just be him trying to keep some info away from scum.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:48
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TMMadman posted:I'm still kind of pondering. I don't know if Raeg is telling us the complete truth here, but it could just be him trying to keep some info away from scum. No problem. I'll be around so if you're thinking still no need to rush.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:50
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Man, I just don't know what to do about Raeg. His claim is very awkward, but it also has this ring of truth to it. And yet at the same time, it's still such a strange claim. I could understand having a "Developing Player" being a JOAT and I can imagine it having some limitations like the either/or choices on specific days, but it also seems really weird that the nights go 2, 4, 5. I could see skipping N1, but why N3?
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Jun 16, 2017 02:54
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If Raeg had claimed like that and there had been any sort of pressure on him at the time I'd be a lot more suspicious, as it stands the claim looks more like the work of someone who doesn't really know what they're doing than anything else.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:58
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Basically, I'm sitting here wondering if Raeg is the source of the extra N1 kill. Like maybe he can kill on odd nights and does something else on even nights?
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Jun 16, 2017 03:00
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The Ninth Layer posted:If Raeg had claimed like that and there had been any sort of pressure on him at the time I'd be a lot more suspicious, as it stands the claim looks more like the work of someone who doesn't really know what they're doing than anything else. I mean, I tend to agree with this thought, but it's still gnawing at me.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:01
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Do you think scum had a second kill on night 1?
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Jun 16, 2017 03:03
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TMMadman posted:Man, I just don't know what to do about Raeg. His claim is very awkward, but it also has this ring of truth to it. And yet at the same time, it's still such a strange claim. I could understand having a "Developing Player" being a JOAT and I can imagine it having some limitations like the either/or choices on specific days, but it also seems really weird that the nights go 2, 4, 5. I could see skipping N1, but why N3? Yeah. The missing N3 and locking a vig behind N5 are hard parts for me. 16 player game with what looks like a scum kill and a sk kill going is gonna have a hard time making a N5 vig useful when we could be down 3 players a day. Obviously no lynches or role saves can extend the game, and we are still speculating about the SK thing, but keeping a vig away for that long just seems.. strange. Like, if the claim is legit, I'm going to definitely be curious as to how taste came to that decision. I know I'd much, much rather have an earlier vig than a late vig, but I also would never use a vig that late in the game so it is not a role intended for me if legit, clearly.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:03
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The Ninth Layer posted:Do you think scum had a second kill on night 1? I guess it's not impossible, but it would seem odd. I know I've played in a couple 13 player games (iirc) run by Asiina that only had a 2 person scum team (a ninja and a godfather) who could BOTH kill at night. I think the rest of the setup was just standard doc/cop/tracker with a bunch of vanilla, possibly one other role. So maybe something like that got toyed with and given a few extra players? Add in a survivor and player with a vig and it would probably come out right.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:10
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Although iirc that setup resulted in a game that would only last 3 or 4 days if all the kills went through and I'm not feeling like we're quite in danger of being outnumbered by scum.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:12
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There's no evidence for anything like that though, and we'd probably do more harm than good trying to play around that assumption. For all we know there are 5 scum that only got three kills total this game and today is actually lylo. But it's not likely and if that's the case it's not like we could really play according to that.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:12
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The Ninth Layer posted:There's no evidence for anything like that though, and we'd probably do more harm than good trying to play around that assumption. No I agree. I'm not planning to play with that assumption. Right now I'm thinking it's some kind standard setup for a 16 player game which would be 3 scum, 1 3P, and 12 town. Possibly 2 3P and 11 town, but I don't think that's a concern at the moment.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:16
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Also, you know I don't think most people said who they voted for MotM during N2 and I'm wondering if that would be helpful right now as well. I probably should have pushed for it earlier in the day.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:17
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I voted Gulag.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:18
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Man, I really wish more people would have looked harder at Sandwolf. The way he pushed for that Added lynch on D2 was really scummy imo.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:23
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Yeah sorry y'all. I know that VT isn't exactly a "stop the presses" type claim. But at least I'm straightforward except when I'm a complete ding dong and misinterpret my name.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:24
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TMMadman posted:Man, I really wish more people would have looked harder at Sandwolf. The way he pushed for that Added lynch on D2 was really scummy imo. Like could you push that again cuz when I asked earlier I still didn't get a clear idea of the actual case.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:24
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Dr. Hurt posted:Like could you push that again cuz when I asked earlier I still didn't get a clear idea of the actual case. I just didn't like the way he kept hard pushing to get Added lynched so early in the day. He made it seem like it was the only available lynch and it was purely based on a second hand scum claim. Yeah, the stuff that was posted by both AS and Inf weren't great, but it's not like a smoking gun either. And either way, just trying to shut down discussion by only focusing on one player is a scummy thing to do. I've been a cop with a scum result and I still advocate to take plenty of time to talk about other things. Obviously with a scum result you don't have to wait until the deadline, but with a somewhat suspect case like the one against AS it was just dumb to get the lynch done a full day before the deadline. Scum want town to make rushed decisions and that's exactly what D2 felt like and Sandwolf was the one leading that push to get it done fast imo.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:31
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There's no way AS was going to get out of day 2 without being voted out.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:34
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Like this to me is just offensive:Sandwolf posted:Yeah hundred percent my dude, but I don't see how any discussion is gonna take place other than hemming and hawing on this Added Space thing followed by limp bandwagon that sees him lynched at the end of the day. I don't see how we lynch anyone else today (except Infinitum who I want to talk about tomorrow) so let's just get this over with. Because I just don't see it as true. People could have taken harder stands, people could have tried to move the lynch. And yeah, maybe it would just ended with a limp bandwagon on AS, but that would have given town information too.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:37
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The Ninth Layer posted:There's no way AS was going to get out of day 2 without being voted out. You don't know that at all and that's the problem.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:37
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I know I wouldn't have voted for anyone else besides somebody else also claiming scum in a more forceful way.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:38
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And it's even more wrong since the whole claim came from Inf in the first place and let's face it, he's not exactly the most trustworthy person. So even with the stuff they both posted (which imo was wrong from both of them), it was not a smoking gun and it would have been way better to let the entire day play out instead of forcing the lynch to be done early. Even if AS had ultimately been the lynch anyway.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:39
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I'm sorry but no you're wrong, Sandwolf was right, there's no way the town could have or should have left alive the guy who pretended to have scumbuddies, if we had left him alive we would literally be debating whether he was actually scum or not until the day the game ended.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:41
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The Ninth Layer posted:I know I wouldn't have voted for anyone else besides somebody else also claiming scum in a more forceful way. But that's the whole issue. He didn't actually claim scum. Sure, you can make the case that it was implied, but given what happened it clearly turned out to be just AS making a joke. That presumption is what kills town and that is what drives me nuts. And yes, I know I'm guilty of it myself at times and basically every time I do it, it bites me in the rear end.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:41
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TMMadman posted:But that's the whole issue. He didn't actually claim scum. "I'll have to check with my [scum] buddies" isn't exactly ambiguous dude.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:42
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The Ninth Layer posted:I'm sorry but no you're wrong, Sandwolf was right, there's no way the town could have or should have left alive the guy who pretended to have scumbuddies, if we had left him alive we would literally be debating whether he was actually scum or not until the day the game ended. Or someone could have tracked him, or maybe Raeg could have used that 1x cop on him if he got the chance. There's a bunch of possibilities.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:42
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Townies loving lying is what kills town. The same problem we're facing with Raeg who probably wouldn't have any votes right now if he could have kept to one consistent claim.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:43
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TMMadman posted:Or someone could have tracked him, or maybe Raeg could have used that 1x cop on him if he got the chance. There's a bunch of possibilities. Or we could have just voted him. Like we did.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:43
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The Ninth Layer posted:"I'll have to check with my [scum] buddies" isn't exactly ambiguous dude. Whatever. I'm done. It was a stupidly rushed lynch. Yes, AS probably would have ended up as the lynch, but you still don't force it to get done early. That is the problem.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:44
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Anyway, we've only got 15 minutes left and at this point it's not going to be anyone else, so ##vote Dr. Hurt
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Now where is Chaos to finish this lynch?
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