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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
he will always be remembered for his fight with Mighty Mouse

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Snowman_McK posted:

That's Chris Cariaso. And yes, I did have to check to see which forgettable fighter I was thinking of.

:thejoke:

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Just noticed OP says Rounda Rousey

Noice

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Marching Powder posted:

oh and gently caress dana white

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Paige danced with the stars

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Heres a simple question - why did we know Paige and Sage? They were both attractive yes but it certainly wasn't their talent that made them known in our spheres and they aren't the only attractive fighters (if it was that Alan Jouban would be huge).

To think they have had no pushing or advertising and they got themselves over by just a youtube Dana video is idiotic at best and outright cognitive denial at worst.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Skip My Posts posted:

paige van zant and sage shouldnt even be in the ufc you're right about that

Go on

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Skip My Posts posted:

actually i cant say if van zant should be in the ufc because i've never seen her fight and have onlys een pictures of her posted in this thread

And with this admission of don't watch fights lets move on to a different topic to deprive this dumbass of oxygen

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Boy I don't know why DJ wouldn't want to fight someone in a title fight where they've never fought before and with questions about if they can even make the weight.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
It's clear as day they want TJ v DJ so they can book Cody v TJ as champion v champion with a belief that Cody can be a future Conor.

They don't care who has the belts, they just want the storylines. This is fine in some ways (i.e. Bisping v Hendo) but less so when you're loving over several divisions for one potentiality.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Memento posted:

The quality of Cody's poo poo-talking should have convinced them long ago that this is never going to happen

Their tabulation of pushing fighters as the Next Big Thing is

1. Young

2. White

C. Attractive

Being intelligent or actually good are additional bonuses.

This however does not actually mean who will be a supterstar, just who they push to be one. There is a reason this also keeps failing.

Never forget for with his contemporaries up until Chael, Anderson was their lowest drawing champion (LHW was marquee, welterweight had GSP, lightweight had BJ Penn and heavyweight was Randy/Brock). All of them were pushed more than him until someone else promoted him upwards.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

NObodyNOWHERE posted:

I love MM and agree with him in principle on most levels. I also think Dana White is frequently lovely to fighters. But I just can't make myself expend the energy to argue against TJ as the next title defense when it is an objectively better fight on every level and is highly likely to give MM the biggest payday of his career. I mean, nobody likes to get their chain jerked around, but jesus dude that seems like a goofy hill to die on.

"You're fighting Ray Borg"

"I want to fight Cody for the belt"

"YOU'RE FIGHTING RAY BORG THAT'S THE FIGHT BECAUSE YOU DON'T MAKE MONEY"

"Jesus fine"

"Scratch that you're fighting TJ for your belt at 125 because money"

"Why can't I fight Cody at 135?"

"BECAUSE MONEY GOD"

It's not that much of a hill, this is a guy at the end of his rope and after being jerked around so much has decided to die on this hill because they put him on the hill when he wanted a money fight, and now are mad that the hill they put him they don't want for hypocritical reasons.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Triticum Guzzler posted:

DJ is the most passive aggressive guy ever so this whole lover's quarrel is completely unsurprising

I can only assume you think this because he plays a dex build in Bloodborne.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://twitter.com/Ben10MMA/status/871872033478500353

https://twitter.com/TElliott125/status/871896924814581761

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
It takes two to tango and the vast bast majority of Mouse opponents go from prelims to main events against him. There's no attempt to make flyweight main event number one contender fights even though they are rich in talent because Mouse is prime Anderson making everyone below him look a jobber. He isn't given analyst spots, he isn't pushed as a person, he was a company man through and through until now and he's sick of being bottom of the totem pole because he is so loving good.

If this leads to a sort of anti-authority charactisation for him it might make him a name by accident as an outspoken revolutionary for fighters rights.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
DC is cool

“UFC, if you want Demetrious Johnson to fight T.J. Dillashaw, give him the money,” Cormier said Wednesday. “Pay him a million dollars and say ‘that’s your fight.’ I know it’s a lot for a 125-pounder, but the guy’s the No. 1 pound-for-pound fighter in the world. Pay him the money, and then let him go fight. ... Pay him as the No. 1 fighter in the world for once.”

“I think the responsibility for everything can be shared between Demetrious and the UFC,” Cormier said. “The UFC really doesn’t understand how to market him, because they have to get creative. He’s smaller. He’s not the biggest guy. He’s dominant. Even when Anderson Silva was the guy running through his division, his points weren’t very high, so they have to get creative. I don’t know if they’ve gotten creative. But I do believe DJ has done his part.”

Cormier also believes the UFC needs to work on devising new ways to market African-American stars, while acknowledging that Johnson, who has a big following in the gaming community, often defies categorization.

“Honestly as an African-American, you have to market people differently,” Cormier said. “There is a different demographic and I don’t know if DJ really fits neatly into any certain one. Because just his family and everything, everything combined, you gotta get tricky marketing these small guys, especially an African-American guy. So the UFC doesn’t really know how to do that yet with him.

“But, you have to have ‘it,’ Cormier continued. “Ronda Rousey happened organically. It just has to connect. It hasn’t connected for DJ, UFC has to take responsibility because they don’t know how to market him properly yet.”

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
tyool 2017 43 year old mark hunt is winning fights via superior cardio

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Watching Conor time his left perfectly into the Philly shell repeatedly will be hilarious.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Tarec is ruining the former RDAEPO

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Neurosis posted:

That Hitler had hosed up genital is a myth fyi

I won't stand by while you besmirch the Fuhrer

Wrong!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/19/hitler-really-did-have-only-one-testicle-german-researcher-claims

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/5/...sissippi-ladner

Blood Sports-N-Body Paint: James Ladner reveals how he became MMA’s most infamous meme

In his first interview ever, the ‘Just Bleed Guy’ reveals the gory truth about his path to UFC 15, prison, and eventual peace.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVi6bLDFQ_b/

Come back Josh

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.



Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

The Dave posted:

What's the reasoning for the card not happening tonight?

They were terrified of the drawing power of Phil Davis v Ryan Bader

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Is Demian Maia the first fighter to fight their way up to a title shot in two different divisions, unlike the usual "was a contender/champ at the other weight so lets fast lane them to the title"?

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Ronaldo Souza doesn't think it was that good of a idea to take on rising prospect Robert Whittaker two months after he defeated Tim Boetsch by submission. As the Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt shared with Combate, Jacare feels he should've taken a longer break, but ultimately has nobody to blame but himself for the loss that drove him away from a title shot.

Brazilian MMA fighter blames... himself?

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Also god damnit MM didn't want to fight Ray Borg, he wanted to fight Sergio Pettis which buywise would've made a slight difference but UFC said no you're fighting Borg and as a company man he said fine They were jerking him around and he put his foot down as the poo poo continued.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Johny blaming Not Dengue for missing weight and losing

https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/6/29/15891304/morning-report-johny-hendricks-says-illness-led-to-missed-weight-cut-185-is-easy-to-make-ufc

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Trast posted:

Dana should dissolve Mens 125 and devote those resources to what people really want to see; fat men gassing out and juiced brazilian women being gifted paper titles.

Pump the money into the Higher Buyrate of Womens 145.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Where you at Georges?!

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Why doesn't TJ fight Ray Borg

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