Hammer Bro. posted:

Same except most of my weekends are also booked.

I should really scope myself like I'm doing a one week jam. Which really means scoping myself like I'm doing a weekend jam with some time to polish.

CJacobs posted:

Given Nintendo's recent habit of DMCA-ing fan games, I'd avoid poking any Nintendo properties should you decide to take the theme that literally. But that's just my opinion.

TomR posted:

TomR posted:

GOAL!

leper khan posted:

Sonisss gdc audio bundle 2015, 2016, 2017

I have several minutes of water through pipes, nails on glass, bees, etc

SystemLogoff posted:

Where I'll be going for crimes against pixels.

ALFbrot posted:

This is fantastic, even though i just got to beat up on your AFK body

I kicked him around until he was at 420%, then launched him, and then he didn't respawn because I killed him so good, so I had a lie down and left. I want to play this against people, though!

JonTerp posted:

To sum everything up, the Gong Show is designed to punish complex games that lack good design, which in the real world would get eaten alive by most game players. By design it encourages slick, well though out, and engaging games. It's purposefully abrasive to games lacking tight design.The amount of effort you put into making a game is completely irrelevant when evaluating the game's qualities. If we told everyone they did an equally great job and everything about their game is a beautiful snowflake just the way it is we'd be doing a tremendous disservice to all contestants.

NuclearEagleFox!!! posted:

Maybe just allow teams to opt out of the Gong Show when they submit?

JonTerp posted:

I mean we could go back to the days before we had the judges in each block to act as game ambassadors where every game is just a repeat of the "No Call Men" dumpster fire segment from the first Gong Show. To put a clear line of separation between judging and the Gong Show.

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To sum everything up, the Gong Show is designed to punish complex games that lack good design, which in the real world would get eaten alive by most game players. By design it encourages slick, well though out, and engaging games. It's purposefully abrasive to games lacking tight design.The amount of effort you put into making a game is completely irrelevant when evaluating the game's qualities. If we told everyone they did an equally great job and everything about their game is a beautiful snowflake just the way it is we'd be doing a tremendous disservice to all contestants.

JonTerp posted:

It would help me understand what you're trying to suggest more if you used examples or situations, because if you just say "Some games don't get the time they deserve on the Gong Show." All I can say is that we will try to do better next year.

JonTerp posted:

We don't like that it's this way, since Gong Show was never meant to be a "showcase" and are working toward getting more exposure for submitted games on other popular streams.

Xibanya posted:

I'm not dismissing this idea or endorsing it, but speaking as someone who has done a Bootleg Gong Show () this would be insane to do because of the logistics involved in setting up the stream. There's actually quite a lot of setup involved in having guests and having them all talk with acceptable audio levels and letting the guests see the host play without latency and then showing the commentary + game stream to the audience. It would only really be feasible if they all were in the same room, which, as you could imagine, would be difficult to arrange.

JossiRossi posted:

There's a lot in here that is either factually wrong, ignoring the point, or childishly passive aggressive, but out of all of that, the part that confuses me most is that you tested An Video Game and got "a lot of people" to honestly tell you it was pretty good.

TodPunk posted:

No, it is neither dismissive or mean. It is addressing a specific arc which was expressed in several posts. If you're taking it literally, I'm open to rewording suggestions rather than painting antagonism where there is none. Either have the productive conversation you claim to aim for, or argue. I'll join you for one of them.

If you have suggestions for what more could be construed /from/ the Gong Show, I'm all ears and the other judges will attest I am willing to ask these kinds of things, as I often do. They just can't amount to one of the following, because these have been addressed ad nauseam:

- "I don't like it." (Not because we don't want to reach you, but because this is meaningless and unactionable)
- "I want it to do other things outside the aims of the GS" (The goals have been stated. If it detracts from those goals, we all agree that's the wrong direction for the GS specifically)
- "I want it to do a thing that will take monumental effort" (This is the most plausible productive point that has to be dismissed because it is a cost/benefit problem. There have been a few of these over the years.)

Now accepting points that pass this filter. Try me if you don't know if it will pass, I'll let you down easy if you are trying to be earnest. I would advise not throwing accusations of my intent, though. You either give me the benefit of the doubt or I won't extend you the favor back.

Hammer Bro. posted:

In aggregate, your actions even before this point create the impression of one who would rather be offended than further a cause.

Dieting Hippo posted:

I love the gong show and wouldn't change it for the world. It's a roast where we can all get together and laugh at the same stuff each of us did wrong or hilariously right in the same short timespan. However, it does sound like there's also a desire to have a more long-form stream spotlight on some games outside the gong show format. This is okay too!

That's why I'm going to volunteer doing a stream a few nights this week for chilling and discussing some games from the jam, tentatively called Jamflix and Chill.

What I'm planning on doing is an hour-long stream split into two half-hour blocks, one game for each block. There is a slight twist though; I will only stream a game if one or more of the team members will come on stream (via discord) and discuss the game with me. We'll have a nice chat, I'll ask some easy and hard questions, all while the game is being played. It'll be super laid-back and allow some devs to discuss how they operated during the jam or what pitfalls they hit.

Right now I'm planning on hosting these streams sometime tomorrow around 6 PM PST until Friday or however long my attention holds out. That means I'm looking for anyone who wants to show their game off and discuss their experience that can also be on around this time with a microphone. Please volunteer in PM (or on Discord) with what day Tuesday-Friday you can be on and we can work out the arrangements!

If there is a lack of dev volunteers then I will pick a game at random and start streaming regardless. So get in contact right away!

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I posted to cut through drama. There are a couple posters that need not be named that are simply whining

Hammer Bro. posted:

Why wait 'til next year? There are plenty of people still itching for reviews, and you will feel better about the events of this year's review-oriented-activities if you've demonstrably objectively improved the situation.