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what's the best part about the piss tape being real
	the part about the actual president being that petty that he wanted piss on obama's mattress
	the part about kushner not doing great at his assigned role as middle east peace specialist failson extraordinaire
	the part about vladimir putin actually having kompromat and getting the fbi director fired through its influence on the potus
	the part about barron trump just holding a snowglobe wondering what it's all for, while his dad ends the world with his idiocy

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Source4Leko posted:

This is also a good question. Why fake this. Like, seriously, this is a good fake. If this is faked it's an impressive amount of effort to gently caress with people.

it�s also extremely expensive

like they�d have had to fly to Moscow, rent the ritz Carlson pres suite which is not cheap. the. either they do a fake there or take extensive measurements, colors, and have a contractor make a set. plus you�d have to hire a trump look alike with exact same weright/fat, lovely skin and hair, practice mannerisms. and hire a few prostitues which I guess by Russian standards is probably p cheap expensive compared to the whole flying out there and renting the suite.

then have someone experienced in video manipulation and downsampling and artifacting go over it with a fine tooth comb to make sure there�s nothing unambiguous about it being fake

all to do that just to own a handful of extremely online cspam libs but also own trump by proxy

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Spergin Morlock posted:

also if it was faked by russia they probably did film it in the actual suite, and probably with the same hidden camera, lol

but they have the real one

that makes even less sense

# ¿ Jan 30, 2019 01:55

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also if it was a state professional job the you�d want to use your boys and resources to push it into the public medi sphere instead of disappearing into the void for a week plus and still is dead in the water

# ¿ Jan 30, 2019 01:57

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mobby_6kl posted:

You can tell from the pixels.

It's real.

# ¿ Jan 30, 2019 06:52

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that comparison is i think from the colbert shot in like 2016. like the only thing that doesn't match is the light fixtures but they're in the exact same loving spot because of course they would be that's where the wiring comes in. If you're renovating a room and you're a cheap rear end place, you aren't going to redo the walls. it's a shitload of disruptive and costly work unless they're utter poo poo to begin with but they were already very fancy pre renovation. however, what you would definitely renovate is the fixtures because it's cheap to do so, as well as probably bed and some stuff.

# ¿ Jan 30, 2019 06:54

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now admittingly the comparison doesn't mean it's not fake, but at the very least if it is fake then it was filmed in the loving same piss tape presidential suite and that's not a cheap effort.

# ¿ Jan 30, 2019 06:57

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Dumb Lowtax posted:

The light fixtures look the same to me, it's just that particular low-quality frame of the trump clip that makes them look dark and blurry. In the rest I do see the three or so little candle things sticking up

yeah maybe, i thought they looked a little bigger now but it's a bit hard to say. Either way it's the same loving room, just whether it's the real or someone spent the money to travel there, rent the room for a night, hire prostitutes, hire a trump-look-alike, and film it and artifact it, just to sucker some libs and trump supporters at the same time.

it's real

# ¿ Jan 30, 2019 06:59

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Source4Leko posted:

How often does the furniture in a really high end hotel like this get changed? Like not the room being renovated but things being changed and replaced?

furniture probably not super often but if things get damaged (because of piss) or look "poor" then yeah

or if russia needs to upgrade their cameras

# ¿ Jan 30, 2019 07:06

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yeah absolutely, trying to say "its fake" because it doesn't match an arrangement is pretty stupid. so loving what if a chair wasn't in that exact same spot in the latest shot or w/e, who knows what and where it was when tromp was there. however, the fact it matches the loving walls and light fixtures to a god drat tee pretty much god drat means its real

# ¿ Jan 30, 2019 07:11

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twoday posted:

Wouldn�t this make trump like 10 feet tall

TV was/is located there and the pinhole camera is probably somewhere along the base of the tv towards the ground so it's a perspective distortion-effect like foreshortening, and also wide-angle lens (which is what you'd use for a spy camera to make sure you capture maximum kompromat piss ala Ring doorknob stuff) makes it worse.

like think of how you'd look if someone stuck a camera on the ground and took a photo of you sitting in a chair, you'd look tall as poo poo. you can also tell ebcause the bed is hugely high up, but that gives you a frame of reference because beds are usually no more than 3 ft off the ground.

iirc someone dug up a floorplan and it looks like the TV was (maybe still is) located right loving there, so of course it'd be the TV that's bugged to poo poo. it's also the most logical spot for a bug since it has like little transparent IR sensor dots and poo poo that you wouldn't think twice about and you just hide a camera instead of an IR sensor there. Lights, walls, etc are too obvious and probably won't give good angle. However, a TV is also probably angled toward beds and full of electronic poo poo which messes with sweeps or w/e.

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# ¿ Jan 30, 2019 07:15

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twoday posted:

someone go to Moscow and stay in the room

can we use the strombo fund

honestly its not necessary. colberts is pretty good enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk1uBMZOaXc&t=390s

look at 7:06 and where the tv and bed and poo poo are. now imagine the base of that tv has cameras in it because it does and how that would look video wise.

# ¿ Jan 30, 2019 07:26

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dont be mean to me posted:

could the camera have been in or around a power socket

in the frame or something, or a 'charger' adjacent to the TV plugin; hell, round European plugs are beastly enough that you might even be able to mold a camera into the plug itself

i'm looking at the colbert video and i don't see an obvious plug where the TV is that would give a good angle for it. but the TV is like the loving perfect spot for it and matches with the pisstape. also i feel outlets would be pretty cliche for someone paranoid but idk.

# ¿ Jan 30, 2019 07:31

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dont be mean to me posted:

trump doesn't have enough mind to be paranoid

no of course not, other obscenely rich guys like obama or cock bros might tho. like you'll probably have it bugged all the time is what i'm getting at, but you want to make sure never to get caught because rich people have power to make that uncomfortable if they find out theres a bug in their room.

now granted it might be they/russia selectively know whose going to be staying there and sets up the bugs the night before during cleaning (why not own the maids after all) and take them out if someone they don't give a gently caress is gunna be staying there.

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twoday posted:

But maybe I�m just so used to the idea of piss tape that it seems normal and inoffensive now

I mean that's exactly why the piss tape is so funny. it has nearly zero geopolitical relevance if dumped into the public media sphere, like poo poo the sexual-assault tape is way worse and that made zero difference in 2016 election. however, trump is such a loving dumb rear end moron that he himself thinks its damaging kompromat and so willingly bent over and got leashed by putin over something so insignificant. that's why the piss tape owns.

# ¿ Jan 30, 2019 07:48

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dont be mean to me posted:

it washes off of people and it's not your bed i can see people you'd never expect trying it

didn't the legend of the piss tape start by (probably grossly misremembering this) standing out as being a particularly strange and infantile thing in some Trump dossier? so the piss tape being real means everything in the dossier is real because why the hell would you make that up

yeah for sure. i have no doubt well over 90%+ of the steele dossier is all real and if there's anything unreal it's just unreliable sources and steele probably thought it was credible enough.

the fact that like almost all the sources ended up dead or missing shortly afterwards also proves everything in the dossier is real.

and now we have video showing piss tape is real

# ¿ Jan 30, 2019 07:52

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Dumb Lowtax posted:

What's the most criminal thing from the dossier? Or the second most sensational after the piss tape?

it's pretty much standard lexicon stuff now like trump and co all worked with russians for years on crimes and closely wtih them to undermine and hack the DNC and dig up dirt on clinton and funnel it via wikileaks and rig election and give tromp real estate deals in exchange agreements to lift sanctions on russia (which he did) and agreement to let russia have ukraine and stuff like that

piss tape is basically the only sensational thing

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# ¿ Jan 30, 2019 08:45

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i never doubted for a moment

it's real

# ¿ Jan 31, 2019 18:38

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however, my brain really cannot process that's it's real. like i've seen it, i've seen the mother loving piss tape. it's right there and it's real. but like, the piss tape is loving real and yet it seems like it's not that it hasnt been released yet and no one seems to have acknowledged it except the small 50 cspam posters

# ¿ Jan 31, 2019 18:40

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SpiderHyphenMan posted:

The most important part of the Piss Tape leak is that the women's faces are censored, which would only be the case if the FBI had it.

well the women are dead or in life in prison sadly

but yeah it's either a cohen et. al co leak, or really more likely a TLA agency that was pissed about the shutdown and did it by recording it with their cell phone to smuggle it out.

god bless you anonymous cop

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triple sulk posted:

going to prison over releasing the piss tape is honorable

it's like The Ring except we will go to the for profit concentration rape camps in the desert for have seen the piss tape

# ¿ Jan 31, 2019 20:03

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SKULL.GIF posted:

Yo apparently Imgur nuked the piss tape

Can't be because it's NSFW, Imgur has loads of porn on it

yeah that's kinda loving weird lol

i guess imgur is run by reddit which is run by chuds

# ¿ Feb 9, 2019 19:45

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The Nastier Nate posted:

There�s one thing about the piss tape that�s confusing me. I always assumed the piss would be at the end, but in this tape trump is fully clothed when he tells the prostitues to piss on the bed. So did he just not have sex with them at all? Did he have sex with them on the piss soaked bed or did he just get dressed afterwards and said �oh one more thing, why don�t you ladies piss on that Obama bed before I go.�

SKULL.GIF posted:

he's like 70 years old his sex drive is probably "whatever" at this point and he never actually got any pleasure out of sex, it was all about ego gratification for him

so when he was 65 yeah it's super plausible that he called up two prostitutes to his hotel room and went "hey you know what? just piss on the obama bed" and reveled in his attempt at humiliation

It's this

Also people, even goons here, seem think the piss tape is like hookers pissing on trump in obamas bed and having some pissy lemon party orgy or w/e. The Steele Dossier made no mention of that, what it literally said was trump hired some prostitutes who pissed on obamas bed while he watched. it never said he engaged in sexual acts, literally that he watched prostitutes piss on obama's bed--thats it. It would have mentioned if he engaged in anything else because that's even more damaging kompromat.

The video is 100% what i expected it would be. which is why it's real.

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# ¿ Feb 10, 2019 05:36

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i still can't believe we've seen the mother loving piss tape lmao

like yeah it's just a shadow shard of the true piss tape because it's lovely quality being filmed and smuggled out, but holy lmao it's the loving piss tape

# ¿ Feb 10, 2019 05:39

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Flavius Aetass posted:

my brain tells me this is true but my heart tells me president dj trump likes piss in his mouth

oh yeah I get that and he def does. Even if he never did it, he still likes piss in his mouth. it's just not part of the piss tape and never was.

it'd certainly make for a much more entertaining video but it's drat well certain that if they did piss in trumps mouth or butt or whatever that it 100% woulda been mentioned in the dossier because holy poo poo that's a lot more damning that just watching hookers piss on obamas bed.

# ¿ Feb 10, 2019 06:11

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Dumb Lowtax posted:

It's real

it is and i can't believe the motherfucking pisstape has like no traction

like if it was fake then they'd be spreading it to every corner of the internet to get maximum bang-for-their-buck ebcause it'd be an expensive fake and then you'd want to go SURPRISE ITS FAKE GOT U LIBS or something. Instead, tis just quietly being deleted from imgur and gifycat and whatever without a blip. even extremely online twitter peeps haven't mentioned it

for gently caress sake it was deleted from LIVELEAK literally a site devoted to leaking piss everywhere.

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# ¿ Feb 10, 2019 19:32

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paul_soccer10 posted:

its real and i've seen it.

there are 2 types of people

those that believe the piss tape is real and have seen it. and those that believe the piss tape is real but have not seen it

# ¿ Feb 11, 2019 21:19

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do we have a working link to a new pisstape? apparently some peopl have not yet heard of the piss tapes release

the nternet is trying to silence it because imgur, liveleak, gifycat, w/e have all been actively deleting them

# ¿ Feb 19, 2019 20:16

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Stevie Lee posted:

type pissta.pe in your internet browser of choice

gratzi goonsir, i forgot about that

still loving lmao how hard it's being silenced and even most people just handwaved it away as fake or 'w/e don't care'

yikes

# ¿ Feb 19, 2019 21:12

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Duscat posted:

it's either real, or a state actor produced fake, and we've all seen a glimpse of it

i don't buy the cspam discord meta that that russians made this fake piss tape. because they have the real one, and they want donny to have all da power and protect him because his brain is mush and easily manipulable, so there's nothing in it.

could other countries like iran? yeah they'd have to rent out the presidential suite because we 100% know it was filmed in the ritz carlton moscow presidential suite, and that's certainly doable and a small expense. but then like it also didn't even make a piss splash in the internet, like being actively deleted, no bots to amplify it, etc. if you were iran or whoever and just spent 50k making a fake piss tape, you'd be wanting to run tons of bots going HOLY poo poo THE PISS TAPE!! by jason903424234 bill20234239 all over twitter and stuff. instead it was a tiny blip burried deep in 4chan and then promptly deleted and never mentioned again.

# ¿ Mar 12, 2019 04:19

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ikanreed posted:

I registered my initial distrust of the piss tape we have here, but the fact that it's not spread and no one took credit for it really undercuts all my alternate theories.

yeah like if it was a fake, getting the fake-set n fat trumpy-clone all correct would be rather time consuming and you'd want it spread far and wide to own da libs or w/e when you go all puppetmaster hahahafooledyou to get your money and time worth.

sadly still seems like everyone, including lots of sa and cspam discord thinks its fake just because everyone is too afraid of being hoodwinked. i guess in the era of deepfake i can understand that but occams razor is that it's real because it'd be way more convoluted to be fake

idk how you could see this and go 'yep totally fake no fooling me'

the tv in the room-plan is set almost at that exact location and a good spot for a camera so the parallax fits right up

# ¿ Jun 14, 2019 07:38

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dream9!bed!! posted:

well two things, first is that he doesn't look fat enough in the video. second would be why a media that has been salivating over the steele dossier wouldn't be excited to release a clear smoking gun

ultimately i believe he probably did it, but mostly this poo poo just seems pretty quaint compared to the epstein story. consenting adults peeing on things seems positively wholesome tbqh

its not so much the act itself because yeah if people want to piss on each other or on a bed or w/e, who loving cares its wholesome in todays standards. trump has sexually assaulted and probably raped women, including teens. its funny because trump and others think it'd actually be damaging and had to hide it when infact trump could tweet the whole thing and it owuldn't make a lick of a diference, and that was never the point, it was never going to be politically damaging but its funny that people think it would be

also trump was a lot less fat in 2015 than he is today. and you're putting way too much faith in the media, even when talking about the steel dossier, the media almost never talked about the 'pee tape' and was rarely brought up. theres also just enough plausible deniability and media is not gunna run a "TRUMP PSIS TAPE LEAKED??!!"! headlines even if it was bonafide clear

obviously no one wants to hurts their ego to think they got hoodwinked so easier not to, and i understand skepticism, esp the age of deep fakes and all, but any story on why it's fake is so much much more convoluted than a simple 'it's real'. it was leaked during the trump shutdown when there's a good chance some disgruntled three letter acronym intelligence person was pissed off about that and getting hosed pay-wise, and just took a recording on his phone to share to some friend over discord or something and put it on a liveleak to send, which was accidentally picked up in an index and someone noticed and posted to a random deeply-nested 4chan post when they found it, and then the uploader deleted it realizing they could have got in trouble.

anyone with a vested interest in making an expensive fake tape would do so much more publically amplified and clearly

2015 trump even doing the stupid finger thing he does all the time

# ¿ Jul 30, 2019 08:29

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SpiderHyphenMan posted:

GET THE gently caress IN
https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/1177028351472668675

haha, I was cited! (i technically didn't make it but i'll take credit :twisted:

)

Thanks though ashley, now i'm internet famous!! gunna leverage this into a movie deal and book deal and soon i'll have my own netflix productions

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# ¿ Sep 26, 2019 03:22

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FuturePastNow posted:

it's real

# ¿ Sep 26, 2019 03:27

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The Joe Man posted:

"the russian hotel lady said the room changed slightly a couple years later"

"welp wrap it up folks, we're done here"

I genuinely don't understand her concluding argument that it's fake because if it was real it would have been picked up by everyone in tyool 2019. Like that was her really only thing

If anything, the fact it wasn't intended to be leaked but did so accidentally by some disgruntled intelligence person during the shutdown and likely intended to be sent to some discord friends in private to laugh at without getting into too much trouble (and copying files to usb poo poo is probably tightly tracked but a cellphone video of a video is a good n safe way to get it out) and then deleted once oh poo poo some other people noticed it, and thus only ended up in a deeply nested one-off 4chan post by someone who saw it on the liveleak public index, makes it super real.

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# ¿ Sep 26, 2019 04:18

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Duscat posted:

also steele thought it was credible enough to put in the report but not particularly interesting ("pedestrian" i think was the word he said or quoted somebody else saying) so trump sitting in a chair fiddling with his phone while the pissers do their thing and the FSB guys watching it on their monitors roll their eyes and shake their heads would be just about right

yeah pretty much, it's exactly what we thought it was.

i think some goons originally had some notion that it was hookers pissing on trump in a bed obama slept in, having a big grody lemon party. but that was never what the steele report said. it was just a boring 'yeah someone had said they saw tapes of trump watching a couple hookers piss on a bed. the guy who told me later went missing forever' statement

# ¿ Sep 26, 2019 04:31

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yeah lol. how can you write about how bad Big Media, et al is all the time for a living, and then subsequently write a whole bunch of stuff about the minutiae of the piss tape details corroborating things and going "wow this is very likely real and definitely the room and timeframe and everything" but decide at the very end to go "well, it could be real but if it was real then Big Media would have talked about it so therefore it has to be fake"

# ¿ Sep 26, 2019 04:56

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Dumb Lowtax posted:

The idea that this was comissioned is even more implausible than the tape. Think about it: Roger Stone, a guy with the media's full attention and special contacts. Someone who probably could, indeed, commision the most expensive deepfake ever from a state-level actor. Now, would that guy, a man with endless resources, depend on us idiots to get his story out? Hell no. Yet this story would not have gotten out without this thread. This thread itself might have never resumed its interest in reporting the story if I hadn't constantly bugged everyone to and collected info. Now, I know me. I know that I'm not working for anybody. I don't know if you know this, but I know that I'm a goddamn nobody and lazy as gently caress too. We're all lazy as gently caress seeing as how we sat on this for nine months without anyone putting in the sufficient effort to show the world why it's a big deal. Most of all, I know my own unreliability, and I know that Roger Stone's grand plan to shock the world with this thing could not have possibly included relying on my lazy rear end to do anything. From my perspective, that's a no-brainer. As I said, more implausible than the much simpler explanation of "it's real".

What is plausiable, perhaps the only plausible thing, is that this clip was leaked by someone who had no resources.

That matches everything. The total lack of fanfare around it. Not only did they have no media contacts to tip off, not even bots to spread the file and boost it with posts, they didn't even have the confidence to keep doing it themselves and eventually tried to scrape it back off the web into obscurity. Whoever leaked this was just another nobody like us. One who had a clearance and a cell phone and a brief lapse in their survival instincts.

yeah this, also that lapse of survival instinct was it was leaked deep into the heart of the trump shutdown where they probably had to work without getting a paycheck lol

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an actual dog posted:

Someone who wanted to leak something and not get caught, and wasn't technically savvy, would absolutely record off of a screen and upload it to 4 chan

as far as we know, it was only uploaded to liveleak and some 4channer was just watching poo poo on the public index and posted that they found it. i dont think the leaker directly posted it on 4chan, but could have done and pretended they found it

that said idk how "secure" liveleak is or if they just forward everything to the fbi, but it would seem to be an obvious place to share it for someone not super savvy

maybe that chronology is off now that I think about it bc apparently there�s some versions without the ll stamp and cropping diff n poo poo, so maybe it was posted somewhere else first

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