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bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



.....um, so it's tied, so they keep punting it trying to get a field goal, or score a safety? Is that what's going on?

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AlbertFlasher
Feb 14, 2006

Hulk Hogan and the Wrestling Boot Band
They are trying to punt the ball into the endzone and if the team is tackled inside the endzone with the ball the other team gets 1 point and wins the game

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



AlbertFlasher posted:

They are trying to punt the ball into the endzone and if the team is tackled inside the endzone with the ball the other team gets 1 point and wins the game

That's what I figured. Question, what was the flag for and against who, and did they have to redo the play?

AlbertFlasher
Feb 14, 2006

Hulk Hogan and the Wrestling Boot Band
Not sure but it was probably 5 yard rule. If so they don't need to replay the kickoff. (If you don't know instead of faircatch there is a 5 yard rule which you need to give the player at least 5 yards to catch the ball before you can tackle him. If you are inside that you get a penalty.)

EDIT: The penalty was on Montreal for not giving at least 5 yards to the Winnipeg player to catch the punt.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Winnipeg was attempting to score a touchdown when they kicked first, Timothy Flanders(one of their fastest players) caught the ball and lateraled it to Ryan Lankford who punted, but Flanders moved behind Lankford prior to the kick so he was onside and therefore doesn't have to give yards to the returner and can recover the ball without a Montreal player touching it first, Montreal kicked it back hoping to get the single, but they got the no-yards which made it a free play for Winnipeg again so they booted it hoping for the recovery. The CFL owns.

AlbertFlasher
Feb 14, 2006

Hulk Hogan and the Wrestling Boot Band

DariusLikewise posted:

but Flanders moved behind Lankford prior to the kick so he was onside and therefore doesn't have to give yards to the returner and can recover the ball without a Montreal player touching it first,

Oh poo poo I forgot about that rule. I think it was last year when Hamilton pulled that one off on someone. The other team had no idea what was going on.

Drunk Canuck
Jan 9, 2010

Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.

https://twitter.com/Ticats/status/902187937382768641

Uh holy poo poo no don't. You absolute loving morons.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
I hope Hamilton goes win-less this season

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


For those who don't know, BRiles was head coach of the Baylor program while upwards of 52 rapes were committed by his players, so congratulations Hamilton!


E: oh, no loving way. They're hosting a womens clinic on learning the game tonight too

https://twitter.com/BarrysJewellers/status/902171143867596801

DJExile fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Aug 28, 2017

fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain
relegate hamilton

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012
Smart football decision by Hamilton

AlbertFlasher
Feb 14, 2006

Hulk Hogan and the Wrestling Boot Band
As if Hamilton couldn't get any more embarrassing.

https://twitter.com/CFL/status/896856440903671808


Two weeks after they posted that too! I guess it doesn't apply to women.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Does the CFL approve all hires though? I think Hamilton could bring on a coach without the league having any say in it.

AlbertFlasher
Feb 14, 2006

Hulk Hogan and the Wrestling Boot Band

DariusLikewise posted:

Does the CFL approve all hires though? I think Hamilton could bring on a coach without the league having any say in it.

You'd think there would be some morality clause sort of thing here. This affects all the clubs not just Hamilton.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

AlbertFlasher posted:

You'd think there would be some morality clause sort of thing here. This affects all the clubs not just Hamilton.

Not sure, like I said I'm not sure the league would have had a chance to vet the hiring at all before Hamilton announced it. I can see the commissioner doing something about it soon though considering how lovely and deeply unpopular this hiring is. It's not Ricky Williams being coming here because he likes pot, the man covered up a swath of sexual assault charges. It's too bad he didn't get hit with any criminal charges or else he wouldn't have been able to get a job in Canada at all.

Stiev Awt
Mar 20, 2007


Contract the ti cats

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Lmao if you think morality clauses are a real, enforceable thing in any sport.

AlbertFlasher
Feb 14, 2006

Hulk Hogan and the Wrestling Boot Band

DariusLikewise posted:

Not sure, like I said I'm not sure the league would have had a chance to vet the hiring at all before Hamilton announced it. I can see the commissioner doing something about it soon though considering how lovely and deeply unpopular this hiring is.

Ya I can see the commissioner doing something.... I hope. I knew the Ti-Cats owner was a piece of poo poo but this is really something else.

Drunk Canuck
Jan 9, 2010

Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.

https://twitter.com/CFL/status/902286500125175811

"Whoops we didnt think people would notice"

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Well, good news, he isn't getting hired anymore

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


lmao holy poo poo they actually did it

https://twitter.com/TheAthleticCFB/status/902339777130885121

fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain
https://twitter.com/TheAthleticCFB/status/902339777130885121

:yeah:

GuavaMoment
Aug 13, 2006

YouTube dude
Well that was the shortest lived scandal of all time. One interesting story all given in one serving and tied up with a bow. I'd never heard of Art Briles specifically before, but I have heard of the story. I was telling a friend about his hiring, and actually had to say "no, the other disgraced football coach involved in a rape scandal". Yeah, this is a headache the league does not need.

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!
I hope Art Briles rises to the same career accolades Dave Bliss did.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
How did the CFL and Hamilton not discuss this before? Whatever you think of Briles, it's hosed up from them to humiliate him (and not to mention themselves) by announcing he's coming on and then reversing course 24 hrs later.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Yes, this is truly the humiliating thing for Art Briles.

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

DJExile posted:

Yes, this is truly the humiliating thing for Art Briles.

I mean really when you stop to think about it the person in all of this we should care about is Art Briles.

AlbertFlasher
Feb 14, 2006

Hulk Hogan and the Wrestling Boot Band

Good news this

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
http://www.metronews.ca/sports/2017/08/29/ticats-backtrack-agree-not-to-hire-disgraced-baylor-coach.html?cq_ck=1504012169439

Article from the Metro on the whole thing. The CFL didn't know Hamilton was hiring him until they announced it. Randy Ambrosie and the CFL lawyers said the only way they can block coaching moves is if it would bring the league into disrepute, but there was a chance that wouldn't survive an actual court challenge, so they actually had to sit down Hamilton and explain to them why hiring Art Briles is stupid.

quote:

All day the Canadian Football League was locked in radio silence, for good reason. The Hamilton Tiger-Cats had hired Art Briles, the disgraced former coach at Baylor University who was fired after dozens of allegations of rape, harassment, stalking and assault by his players surfaced despite his best efforts. He had become radioactive in American football; Hamilton, exhibiting truly heroic tone-deaf idiocy, decided he would be welcome here.

It was a sudden, incredible crisis. Monday night the Ticats also ran their first of two Huddles & Heels women’s football clinics, presented by Barry’s Jewellers. They’ve done it for a few years now: female fans get to drink wine, learn about football, run drills on the field. By mid-afternoon, Barry’s Jewellers had already reacted to the Briles hiring with strong disapproval, and announced a plan to donate an undisclosed portion of their sales for the next two months to the Sexual Assault Centre of Hamilton. Now here’s how you throw a spiral, ladies!

The CFL wasn’t sure it could block a coaching appointment; the league can and has refused to register player contracts, but two sources familiar with the constitution told the Star the only way commissioner Randy Ambrosie could block the hire would be if he decided the move brought he league into disrepute. And even then, the CFL wasn’t sure it would hold weight.

So they went with old-fashioned diplomacy instead, arguing and leaning and persuading into the evening, and saved the team from themselves. The statement announcing Briles wasn’t coming arrived at 9:23 p.m.

It wasn’t that Hamilton’s front office couldn’t hire Briles. It was that they shouldn’t. Baylor University didn’t fire him until it was clear that his players had committed dozens and perhaps hundreds of crimes on his watch, up to and including rape. He, in turn, didn’t drop his libel and slander lawsuit threats until it was revealed that he knew about many of the allegations and preferred to keep them quiet. Ticats president Scott Mitchell, in an interview that couldn’t have been more of a train wreck if it had done a nosedive off a trestle bridge, said that Briles had been exonerated by the university. The university that fired Briles and contradicted his version of events, over and over? That one?

“The more we contemplated it, deliberated over it — and obviously I spoke to (owner) Bob Young about it as well — we just thought it was a very serious situation,” Mitchell told Drew Edwards of 3DownNation.com. “But we also felt that after talking to dozens of people, people we trust, people we admire, that Art Briles a is a good man that was caught in a very bad situation.”
Mitchell also said, “That doesn’t excuse what went on there by any stretch or the horrific experiences that some young women went through. But as an organization we have to decide whether we’re going to give people a second chance and judge them for their own character, morality, and ethics. I can tell you there wasn’t one single person that we spoke to who knows Art Briles that didn’t think he deserved an opportunity to work in football.”
It was clearly a disgrace to everyone but the team. The Dallas Morning News reported in May that Baylor was investigating about 125 reports of either rape, assault, stalking or harassment by football players between 2011-16. Baylor’s then-Title IX coordinator, Patty Crawford, told the newspaper that the actual number could be higher. There was at least one five-player gang rape the university claimed Briles knew about, and didn’t report. We will never know how many women didn’t come forward.

Briles was far from the only bad actor, but he was in charge. How did Young sign off on this without realizing it would stain the organization? Kent Austin? Mitchell? Maybe this was about the hope of landing former NFL quarterbacks like Robert Griffin III, who played for Briles at Baylor, or Johnny Manziel, who reportedly liked Briles while being recruited. But Briles at Baylor was a reminder of how winning excuses deep moral failures. This would have been a tinpot echo of the same thing, by an 0-8 team.

“Even dating back 20 years ago with my gang rape and covering it up, we’ve seen this happen,” said Brenda Tracy, an anti-sexual assault activist, rape survivor, and member of the NCAA’s Committee to Combat Sexual Violence. “It’s obviously one of the most egregious case that we know of, but there’s been a history of football programs and colleges placing winning over human life. The hiring of Art Briles, it’s symbolic that it doesn’t matter. That what happened at Baylor doesn’t matter, that what happened to all these survivors over all of these years doesn’t matter. That winning matters. That football matters.”

The Ticats still have to wear that they thought it was a good idea to bring in a man who presided over a campus that became a playground for sexual predators. But at least the league turned the ship around, late but in time: as Young tweeted, “Randy Ambrosie saves the Ticats from a major blunder today. Longer mea culpa coming tomorrow.”

The CFL has been good on social issues over the past few years: strong stands on domestic violence, partnership with You Can Play, the Diversity is Strength campaign that was fast-tracked after Charlottesville. This league can be as incompetent as any other, but it still knows that it really lives in its communities, Toronto perhaps excepted.

It shouldn’t have taken the backlash for the Hamilton Tiger-Cats to remember that, but it did.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



I am liking this league right now I'll be honest. Heck, at Ottawa Pride on Sunday, they had a few redblack players marching in their jerseys, and a grey cup booth set up too. So that's something

Stiev Awt
Mar 20, 2007


https://twitter.com/SportsCentre/status/902919761033646080

Hamilton can't stop shooting itself in the legs.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
They said it wasn't a good time to sign him lol

I would actually be halfway okay with Johnny Manziel getting a second chance. He was convicted and served some sort of punishment for his domestic abuse charge and he went to rehab for his drinking and drug problems. Art Briles counter-sued everyone and claims that he did nothing wrong.

Drunk Canuck
Jan 9, 2010

Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.

Manziel would wash out anyway. No way he'd get adjusted to the extra DB before running away to a Indoor football team down south in frustration.

fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain
https://twitter.com/BryanDFischer/status/903832188205989888

:eyepop:

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007



Lmao good lord

Stiev Awt
Mar 20, 2007


Riders

fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain
https://twitter.com/EdmontonEsks/status/905494248568619008

:allears:

Drunk Canuck
Jan 9, 2010

Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.

Good for them.

fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain
https://twitter.com/FarhanLaljiTSN/status/906557332498259969

:rip:

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Drunk Canuck
Jan 9, 2010

Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.

Lulay'd out for the year.

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