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DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

5 TSN channels and they are only broadcasting 5 out of 9 preseason games? What the gently caress Bell?

# ¿ Jun 11, 2017 02:04

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 14:54

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Poor Karen got VIP Grey Cup tickets

https://www.cfl.ca/2017/07/14/cfl-blue-bombers-safewaysobeys-reach-karen-kuldys/

# ¿ Jul 14, 2017 22:37

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Kent Austin please don't get fired before you play the Bombers

Also lol that if the CFL allowed unlimited crossovers the playoffs would be 1 team from the East and 5 teams from the West right now

# ¿ Jul 30, 2017 18:20

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

all-Rush mixtape posted:

This literally was the case last year.

By the end of the year? Saskatchewan was tied with Toronto for worst record

# ¿ Jul 31, 2017 14:59

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

The Bombers are definitely going to win a game this year by scoring a rouge with a play snapped with 00:00 left on the clock, the most Canadian victory. :canada:

bunnyofdoom posted:

I am still surprised Ottawa hasn't fired the coach

Dammit, I'm getting a riders av aren't I?

Ottawa has lost their last 4 games by less than 4 points and won it all last year, they would be stupid to fire the coach.

DariusLikewise fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Aug 7, 2017

# ¿ Aug 7, 2017 19:15

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Winnipeg is going to beat Edmonton this week with a rouge kicked by Matt Nichols with 00:00 on the clock

# ¿ Aug 16, 2017 19:40

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

DariusLikewise posted:

Winnipeg is going to beat Edmonton this week with a rouge kicked by Matt Nichols with 00:00 on the clock

Not quite but the Bombers are looking pretty good at this point, still need to figure out how to stop Messam

# ¿ Aug 21, 2017 15:06

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

In case anyone missed the last play of regulation last night

https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/901092404949864448

# ¿ Aug 25, 2017 15:57

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Winnipeg was attempting to score a touchdown when they kicked first, Timothy Flanders(one of their fastest players) caught the ball and lateraled it to Ryan Lankford who punted, but Flanders moved behind Lankford prior to the kick so he was onside and therefore doesn't have to give yards to the returner and can recover the ball without a Montreal player touching it first, Montreal kicked it back hoping to get the single, but they got the no-yards which made it a free play for Winnipeg again so they booted it hoping for the recovery. The CFL owns.

# ¿ Aug 25, 2017 17:04

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

I hope Hamilton goes win-less this season

# ¿ Aug 28, 2017 17:13

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Does the CFL approve all hires though? I think Hamilton could bring on a coach without the league having any say in it.

# ¿ Aug 28, 2017 18:25

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

AlbertFlasher posted:

You'd think there would be some morality clause sort of thing here. This affects all the clubs not just Hamilton.

Not sure, like I said I'm not sure the league would have had a chance to vet the hiring at all before Hamilton announced it. I can see the commissioner doing something about it soon though considering how lovely and deeply unpopular this hiring is. It's not Ricky Williams being coming here because he likes pot, the man covered up a swath of sexual assault charges. It's too bad he didn't get hit with any criminal charges or else he wouldn't have been able to get a job in Canada at all.

# ¿ Aug 28, 2017 18:45

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

http://www.metronews.ca/sports/2017/08/29/ticats-backtrack-agree-not-to-hire-disgraced-baylor-coach.html?cq_ck=1504012169439

Article from the Metro on the whole thing. The CFL didn't know Hamilton was hiring him until they announced it. Randy Ambrosie and the CFL lawyers said the only way they can block coaching moves is if it would bring the league into disrepute, but there was a chance that wouldn't survive an actual court challenge, so they actually had to sit down Hamilton and explain to them why hiring Art Briles is stupid.

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All day the Canadian Football League was locked in radio silence, for good reason. The Hamilton Tiger-Cats had hired Art Briles, the disgraced former coach at Baylor University who was fired after dozens of allegations of rape, harassment, stalking and assault by his players surfaced despite his best efforts. He had become radioactive in American football; Hamilton, exhibiting truly heroic tone-deaf idiocy, decided he would be welcome here.

It was a sudden, incredible crisis. Monday night the Ticats also ran their first of two Huddles & Heels women�s football clinics, presented by Barry�s Jewellers. They�ve done it for a few years now: female fans get to drink wine, learn about football, run drills on the field. By mid-afternoon, Barry�s Jewellers had already reacted to the Briles hiring with strong disapproval, and announced a plan to donate an undisclosed portion of their sales for the next two months to the Sexual Assault Centre of Hamilton. Now here�s how you throw a spiral, ladies!

The CFL wasn�t sure it could block a coaching appointment; the league can and has refused to register player contracts, but two sources familiar with the constitution told the Star the only way commissioner Randy Ambrosie could block the hire would be if he decided the move brought he league into disrepute. And even then, the CFL wasn�t sure it would hold weight.

So they went with old-fashioned diplomacy instead, arguing and leaning and persuading into the evening, and saved the team from themselves. The statement announcing Briles wasn�t coming arrived at 9:23 p.m.

It wasn�t that Hamilton�s front office couldn�t hire Briles. It was that they shouldn�t. Baylor University didn�t fire him until it was clear that his players had committed dozens and perhaps hundreds of crimes on his watch, up to and including rape. He, in turn, didn�t drop his libel and slander lawsuit threats until it was revealed that he knew about many of the allegations and preferred to keep them quiet. Ticats president Scott Mitchell, in an interview that couldn�t have been more of a train wreck if it had done a nosedive off a trestle bridge, said that Briles had been exonerated by the university. The university that fired Briles and contradicted his version of events, over and over? That one?

�The more we contemplated it, deliberated over it � and obviously I spoke to (owner) Bob Young about it as well � we just thought it was a very serious situation,� Mitchell told Drew Edwards of 3DownNation.com. �But we also felt that after talking to dozens of people, people we trust, people we admire, that Art Briles a is a good man that was caught in a very bad situation.�
Mitchell also said, �That doesn�t excuse what went on there by any stretch or the horrific experiences that some young women went through. But as an organization we have to decide whether we�re going to give people a second chance and judge them for their own character, morality, and ethics. I can tell you there wasn�t one single person that we spoke to who knows Art Briles that didn�t think he deserved an opportunity to work in football.�
It was clearly a disgrace to everyone but the team. The Dallas Morning News reported in May that Baylor was investigating about 125 reports of either rape, assault, stalking or harassment by football players between 2011-16. Baylor�s then-Title IX coordinator, Patty Crawford, told the newspaper that the actual number could be higher. There was at least one five-player gang rape the university claimed Briles knew about, and didn�t report. We will never know how many women didn�t come forward.

Briles was far from the only bad actor, but he was in charge. How did Young sign off on this without realizing it would stain the organization? Kent Austin? Mitchell? Maybe this was about the hope of landing former NFL quarterbacks like Robert Griffin III, who played for Briles at Baylor, or Johnny Manziel, who reportedly liked Briles while being recruited. But Briles at Baylor was a reminder of how winning excuses deep moral failures. This would have been a tinpot echo of the same thing, by an 0-8 team.

�Even dating back 20 years ago with my gang rape and covering it up, we�ve seen this happen,� said Brenda Tracy, an anti-sexual assault activist, rape survivor, and member of the NCAA�s Committee to Combat Sexual Violence. �It�s obviously one of the most egregious case that we know of, but there�s been a history of football programs and colleges placing winning over human life. The hiring of Art Briles, it�s symbolic that it doesn�t matter. That what happened at Baylor doesn�t matter, that what happened to all these survivors over all of these years doesn�t matter. That winning matters. That football matters.�

The Ticats still have to wear that they thought it was a good idea to bring in a man who presided over a campus that became a playground for sexual predators. But at least the league turned the ship around, late but in time: as Young tweeted, �Randy Ambrosie saves the Ticats from a major blunder today. Longer mea culpa coming tomorrow.�

The CFL has been good on social issues over the past few years: strong stands on domestic violence, partnership with You Can Play, the Diversity is Strength campaign that was fast-tracked after Charlottesville. This league can be as incompetent as any other, but it still knows that it really lives in its communities, Toronto perhaps excepted.

It shouldn�t have taken the backlash for the Hamilton Tiger-Cats to remember that, but it did.

# ¿ Aug 29, 2017 15:01

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

They said it wasn't a good time to sign him lol

I would actually be halfway okay with Johnny Manziel getting a second chance. He was convicted and served some sort of punishment for his domestic abuse charge and he went to rehab for his drinking and drug problems. Art Briles counter-sued everyone and claims that he did nothing wrong.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2017 20:08

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

I would imagine that's probably about it for Lulay's career

# ¿ Sep 10, 2017 00:37

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

The Loose Moose died :canada:

Winnipeg finds a way to ruin something cool

http://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/moose-tranquilized-near-igf-dies-during-transport-province-1.3584372

quote:

A moose that was apprehended by conservation officers near Investors Group Field Saturday has died, the province said Monday.
The calf was roaming around the city on Friday and Saturday before it was finally caught and tranquilized by officers on Saturday afternoon in a field near Pembina Highway.
The province said the moose became a public safety concern with thousands of people nearby for the Banjo Bowl football game at Investors Group Field.
The province said officers were planning on relocating the moose outside of the city, but it died while being transported.
The stress of running through a populated urban area in hot weather took a toll on the animal, the province said.

# ¿ Sep 11, 2017 18:31

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

CFL is adding a week onto next year's season and giving everyone another bye. 21 full weeks of Canadian Football people.

# ¿ Sep 13, 2017 21:49

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Trent Richardson has officially signed in Saskatchewan, Chris Jones continues he quest to rehab 1st round NFL busts

# ¿ Sep 26, 2017 20:49

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

I was looking at this on the CFL website https://www.cfl.ca/2017/09/26/cfl-simulation-two-horse-race-west/ and trying to figure out how the Bombers have the 3rd least chance of making the Grey Cup, but somehow have the 2nd best chance of winning. Turns out the Bombers haven't beaten Calgary since 2009 and 99% of playoffs scenarios have the Bombers needing to be Calgary at home in the West Final. :smithicide:

# ¿ Sep 28, 2017 18:16

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Flikken posted:

http://www.thedrawplay.com/comic/andrew-trent-visit-the-funhouse/

https://goo.gl/images/v14GD0

https://goo.gl/images/tKBZBy

Yeah I can't see Richardson translating to the CFL very well, either you need to make one cut and sprint or be a ridiculously powerful runner. Plus if I remember correctly he didn't have great hands either.

Johnny Manziel would be pretty good I think.. If he actually gave a poo poo about football.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2017 20:48

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

https://twitter.com/CFL/status/915215140466954242

Uh so yeah, every team in the east win this week, thanks

lol

# ¿ Oct 3, 2017 15:04

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

CFL trade deadline is tonight and Montreal is having a firesale... maybe

# ¿ Oct 11, 2017 18:05

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

bunnyofdoom posted:

So, if I read it correctly, if Ottawa wins and Hamilton loses, Ottawa clinches?

That is correct, also if Hamilton loses regardless of other games it guarantees a Western Crossover.

This is the full playoff scenarios for this week

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Here is how the scenarios shake down for the rest of Week 17:

West Division Scenarios

Calgary Win + Winnipeg Loss = Calgary Clinches first place in the West Division and will host the Western Final on November 19
Winnipeg Win OR Tie = Winnipeg clinches a playoff berth
Winnipeg Win + Saskatchewan Loss + Edmonton Loss = Winnipeg clinches at least second place in the West Division and will host a home playoff date.
Saskatchewan Win + BC Loss = Saskatchewan clinches playoff spot (crossover minimum)
Edmonton Win + BC Loss = Edmonton clinches playoff spot (crossover minimum)
BC Loss + Saskatchewan Win + Edmonton Win = BC eliminated from playoff contention

East Division Scenarios

Toronto Win + Ottawa Loss = Toronto clinches first place in the East Division and will host the Eastern Final on November 19
Hamilton Loss = Toronto clinches a playoff berth and will host a home playoff date
Ottawa Win + Hamilton Loss = Ottawa clinches a playoff berth and will host a home playoff date

Crossover Scenarios

Hamilton Loss = A West Division team will crossover and take the third playoff berth in the East Division
Hamilton Win + Saskatchewan Tie or Win AND Edmonton Tie or Win = A West Division team will crossover and take the third playoff berth in the East Division

# ¿ Oct 11, 2017 18:12

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Week 18 Playoff Scenarios

Calgary, Winnipeg, Edmonton, Toronto and Ottawa have clinched playoffs

Montreal and Hamilton have been eliminated from the playoffs

quote:

West Division Scenarios

Calgary win OR Winnipeg loss = Calgary clinches first place in division and hosts Western Final on November 19
Winnipeg win OR Edmonton loss = Winnipeg clinches home playoff date
Saskatchewan win OR BC loss = BC eliminated from playoff contention
Saskatchewan win OR BC loss = Saskatchewan clinches playoff berth

East Division Scenarios

There are no scenarios specific to Week 18 that can decide anything in the division

Crossover Scenarios

Hamilton loss in Week 17 confirmed a West Division team will crossover and take the third playoff berth in the East Division

DariusLikewise fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Oct 16, 2017

# ¿ Oct 16, 2017 15:52

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

bunnyofdoom posted:

So, for this week, go bombers!

Yes, technically Toronto controls their own destiny for the bye in the East. If they win out and Ottawa wins out Toronto is 9-9 and Ottawa is 8-9-1. If Toronto loses Ottawa just needs to beat Hamilton next week to get the Bye. There's other scenarios if Toronto ties, but no one cares about those.

I also edited my post because Edmonton, Toronto and Ottawa have all clinched. Hamilton was eliminated on a boneheaded DPI.

# ¿ Oct 16, 2017 16:31

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Week 19 Playoff Scenarios

https://www.cfl.ca/2017/10/23/playoff-scenarios-2017-week-19/

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West Division Scenarios

Winnipeg win OR Edmonton loss = Winnipeg clinches second place in the West and will host the Western Semi-Final on November 12
Edmonton win + Saskatchewan loss = Saskatchewan will crossover to the East Division and play either Toronto or Ottawa in the Eastern Semi-Final

East Division Scenarios

Ottawa loss OR tie = Toronto clinches first place in the East and will host the Eastern Final on November 19

# ¿ Oct 24, 2017 17:28

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Last week of the season playoff scenarios

Sounds like at least half the league is starting their backup QBs so it should be another wacky week in the snow

quote:

West Division Scenarios

Winnipeg Win OR Edmonton Loss = Winnipeg clinches second place in the division and will host the Western Semi-Final on November 12 versus Edmonton or Saskatchewan
Edmonton Win + Winnipeg Loss OR Tie = Edmonton clinches second place in the division and will host the Western Semi-Final against Winnipeg and Saskatchewan will crossover and play in the Eastern Semi-Final November 12 against Toronto or Ottawa
Saskatchewan Win = Saskatchewan clinches third place in the West Division and will play in the Western Semi-Final against Winnipeg on November 12 and Edmonton will crossover and play in the Eastern Semi-Final November 12 against Toronto or Ottawa

East Division Scenarios

Toronto win OR tie = Toronto clinches first place in the East and will host the Eastern Final on November 19; Ottawa finishes in second place and will host the Eastern Semi-Final on November 12.
Toronto loss = Ottawa clinches first place in the East and will host the Eastern Final on November 19; Toronto finishes in second place and will host the Eastern Semi-Final on November 12.

Crossover Scenarios

Hamilton loss in Week 17 confirmed a West Division team will crossover and take the third playoff berth in the East Division

# ¿ Nov 2, 2017 20:24

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Matt Nichols is starting against Edmonton this weekend, no word on Darvin Adams

# ¿ Nov 8, 2017 16:28

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

DariusLikewise posted:

Matt Nichols is starting against Edmonton this weekend, no word on Darvin Adams

NEVER MIND

https://www.cfl.ca/2017/11/08/nichols-limited-bombers-wednesday-practice/

Might as well just give Edmonton the bye into Calgary is LeFevour starts

# ¿ Nov 8, 2017 20:25

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Should we do an offseason CFL N/V thread? There's been a lot of trades that are newsworthy so far

# ¿ Dec 13, 2017 23:29

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 14:54

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

2018 schedule is out already, start of the season is 8 days earlier than normal and every team gets 3 bye weeks.

https://www.cfl.ca/schedule/

# ¿ Dec 14, 2017 22:58

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